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Other Games / Re: Adeptus Evangelion - Rebuild of Stupidity!
« Last post by Jynx on January 18, 2019, 11:12:33 am »

I found it very interesting how Steiner states that he had found purpose in being a Pilot, but spends the vast amount of time for the rest of the game trying to grapple with his place in the organization. It's fascinating, and very well written. I wonder if Azami could have positioned herself in such a way as to pry him open, but we'll never know. That would have been very interesting to explore with you, Jynx, assuming that Phillip and Azami would have been able to reconstitute Steiner. I know Sachiko and Rabbit had conversations with Steiner, but they never really seemed to be able to dig in deep enough. I really wonder if we could have gotten deep enough to explore those feelings of inadequacy and not feeling like they belong. I WISH I COULD EXPLORE THOSE THEMES WITH YOU, JYNX.


I, well.
As you remember, I had no experience with roleplaying before AdEva, and as with all new experiences, I was... Perhaps, too invested in the game. Steiner was too personal for my and everyone else's good. What happened in the game itself was indeed very personal - in that Steiner mostly was on his own, and my own focus was on him and him alone, rather than the world or the other PCs at large.
In the end, his inadequacy was my own, which is why I even dropped out and then, feeling I was missing out on too much, I decided to come back.

Anyway, even if it ended up like this - I still am very glad for the fun time we spent together. Won't forget it anytime soon, that's for sure.
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Other Games / Re: Adeptus Evangelion - Rebuild of Stupidity!
« Last post by Merne23 on January 18, 2019, 09:32:51 am »
Phillip! Oh, Phillip! I love how Phillip is proven right time and time again that anger and violence are justified. I was reading the first fight in the canon thread between Elidia and Phillip, and all the Pilots beat him into the ground emotionally. To see the gradual buildup as Azami works toward opening him up emotionally, and have him turn it around on her and provide immense support for her own trauma? Genius! God, that was amazing! I really would have liked to see them solidify their friendship more thoroughly and see if it could be truly be put to the test. Now that... Ooo. Shivers down my spine.

I realized this at the time, and it was my primary concern.

I crack open Phil for a momentary weakness, and Elidia uses that weakness to attack him. He has no recourse because it wasn't an equivalent exchange, so he flies at her in a rage. Azami is incensed by the violence, Yuki sees it as a Thug Move, and Eli more or less expected it to happen (begging the question, why). So he's proven right that he has nothing to fight for here -- not the city, not the people, and especially not his other Pilots. Anatoly of course rides to the rescue in bringing him back to the fold, eventually, and with much difficulty.

How do I go from that, to being chummy with anyone?

Divide and Conquer. With Azami seeming to share some part of his worldview, it was all a matter of making sure he was talking to her. Not NERV, or a doctor, or someone sending her to him. Really talking to Azami, without anything in the way. His talks with her before the climax of the Camael fight are tame, speaking in plainer truths and harder facts, not prying too much into her, not prying too far into himself. Testing, gauging the waters. Then he was faced with the reminder from home, and found her out alone, with literally only the ruins of the world around her.

And watching Azami be torn between her loyalty to her soldiery and her first real friendship since her failed squad would have been exhilarating. Pretty much the 'breaking out of her shell' that I was demanding from our Cardboard Girl.

Also may I point out that each of Phil's nicknames, based in part by OOC observations and knowledge, are concise and cut right to the heart of what someone was. The Fierce Girl Elidia, fighting for a world that doesn't exist, against enemies she makes herself. The Small Player Yuki, bright and bubbly, always up for a challenge or friendly match. The Trained Dog Azami, so locked up in her own beliefs that were forced upon her, stronger if she let that fuel her instead of be her. He couldn't have known this much about them from what he saw, but he still placed these labels on them regardless. I would call it intuition, his ability to read others, if I had to call it anything at all.

Is a shame I didn't get to make him more interdependent with more of the main cast, but the only person I could see him interacting much with would have been Takumi, since Yuki was so solidly in Elidia's pockets.

Though on a positive note! My experience with Phirru has opened me up to the idea of more aggressive and angry characters, rather than the 'Lawful Stupid' like Lenna, or the 'Overall Good People' I usually play. Even if I didn't see this to a conclusion, the spirit of the Trodaire Aonair (Lone Fighter) lives on.

After all, there is still work to be done.
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Other Games / Re: Adeptus Evangelion - Rebuild of Stupidity!
« Last post by Deeox2 on January 18, 2019, 06:39:31 am »
Oh, AdEva... How I missed ye~ I reread some choice passages, some of the ones I found particularly interesting.

I found it very interesting how Steiner states that he had found purpose in being a Pilot, but spends the vast amount of time for the rest of the game trying to grapple with his place in the organization. It's fascinating, and very well written. I wonder if Azami could have positioned herself in such a way as to pry him open, but we'll never know. That would have been very interesting to explore with you, Jynx, assuming that Phillip and Azami would have been able to reconstitute Steiner. I know Sachiko and Rabbit had conversations with Steiner, but they never really seemed to be able to dig in deep enough. I really wonder if we could have gotten deep enough to explore those feelings of inadequacy and not feeling like they belong. I WISH I COULD EXPLORE THOSE THEMES WITH YOU, JYNX.

As for Yuki and Takumi, I have the same compliments. Rev and Arra really were able to lay the emotional rockbed, providing much more stable characters. If we didn't have them, all we'd do is have the others lamenting their pains, and that's not fun if it's the only thing. I'm not trying to say you had more simple characters, but the real deep emotional stuff was likely to come far after, considering what Elvis has told me. Oh well~ But Takumi's commitment to Ishihara and Yuki's unyielding hero complex... Oh, man! Amazing!

Phillip! Oh, Phillip! I love how Phillip is proven right time and time again that anger and violence are justified. I was reading the first fight in the canon thread between Elidia and Phillip, and all the Pilots beat him into the ground emotionally. To see the gradual buildup as Azami works toward opening him up emotionally, and have him turn it around on her and provide immense support for her own trauma? Genius! God, that was amazing! I really would have liked to see them solidify their friendship more thoroughly and see if it could be truly be put to the test. Now that... Ooo. Shivers down my spine.

Elidia! Oh, Wooly! I have seen the light! You did such a good job! I love how Elidia was raised to see the world as an us against them narrative and how that reinforced itself through her own actions. With Azami and Phillip, she initiates fights with both of them, and only ends up flaring up the traumas of both of them, resulting in her being able to become a victim once again. I love it. I would have really liked her relationships with the other Pilots to shift a bit, though. If, for just a bit... She opened up to one of the Pilots she saw as an enemy, I would have loved to see the result! Even if the result was good or bad, it would have been spectacular! Their ideologies seemed so different but... Ugh! I wish I could have seen the end result of the conflict! I am nothing in the light of the Shambler!

ELVIS! God, all your NPCs were brilliant. You had all these concurrent side plots, people with their own agendas, pushing the Pilots this way and that. It was utterly amazing to watch. I loved how you were able to bring out the personalities of the NPCs in their interactions with the PCs. I loved seeing Darius' commitment to duty, but also to his friends. I loved seeing Gerard's goofy antics, but also the dark interior he was hiding beneath. I loved how Sachiko was dark and mysterious , but held a kind heart beneath it all. KNAT. Oh man, Knat. He was so kind, and he shouldered all the trauma he had just so none of the other new Pilots would be scared of the trauma they would receive through the same ordeal! AMAZING. SPECTACULAR. (Also Rabbit was very cute. I still wuv her.)

and uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. i guess i kinda got good at writing at the end. i love my gay daughter
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Other Games / Re: Azur Lane
« Last post by mikebrand83 on January 13, 2019, 10:32:23 am »
Probabilities:
Amagi 2%, Ashigara 2.5%

Build results:
Amagi x3, Ashigara x0

... Good thing that I actually want Amagi.
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General Chat / Re: The almighty SPAM TOPIC!
« Last post by WeAreTheMeta on January 10, 2019, 06:37:23 pm »
Excuse you, our Drapeau Blanc are of better quality than any white flag you can find anywhere else!
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General Chat / Re: The almighty SPAM TOPIC!
« Last post by Geocorn on January 10, 2019, 06:17:05 pm »
calling France superior in anything is the joke :P
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General Chat / Re: The almighty SPAM TOPIC!
« Last post by WeAreTheMeta on January 10, 2019, 02:32:41 pm »
In the fact our humor is superior :P
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General Chat / Re: The almighty SPAM TOPIC!
« Last post by [Astral|Zephyr] on January 10, 2019, 09:31:39 am »
Evidently yes.

Then where is the evidence? :P
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General Chat / Re: The almighty SPAM TOPIC!
« Last post by WeAreTheMeta on January 10, 2019, 09:06:48 am »
Evidently yes.
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General Chat / Re: The almighty SPAM TOPIC!
« Last post by [Astral|Zephyr] on January 10, 2019, 05:50:56 am »
French humor is superior one. He surrenders himself to the bad jokes

Is that how superiority works? ???
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