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Title: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 24, 2014, 11:28:27 pm
I figured some of us might want a place to discuss the most awesome and amazing game ever. Then I realized people probably didn't want to talk about Pong and made this thread instead. So, how many of you have played any of the games in the Fire Emblem series? Did you like them? Did you hate them? Which characters did you like/dislike?

Personally, I've completed Fire Emblem and The Sacred Stones for the GBA, Shadow Dragon for the DS, and Awakening for the 3DS. Apparently I've only really played the portables that got released in North America. I do plan to play Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn eventually, although it might be a while.

I enjoyed all of the Fire Emblem games I've played, with Sacred Stones being my first, Fire Emblem being my favorite, Shadow Dragon being the one I enjoyed completing most, and Awakening being the one I put the most time into.

I do have a list of favorite characters from each game, so I'll give each one it's own line for the sake of making this post longer. Oh, and none of these are in any order. Except alphabetical.
Fire Emblem : Erk, Florina, Lyn, Matthew, Nino
Sacred Stones : Artur, Joshua, Lute, Lyon, Myrrh
Shadow Dragon : Barst, Caeda, Lena, Marth, Merric
Awakening : Gregor, Henry, Nowi, Sumia, Tharja

My full favorite character list is about twice as long, and the top five tend to change pretty often. The general rule is, I like Mages and cute girls. The rest are just characters that stuck with me for whatever reason, be it skill in battle, interesting personality, or whatever else.

Now, it's your turn to reveal how you feel about Fire Emblem!

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Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Oreo_Blue on March 24, 2014, 11:59:06 pm
Without Pong, there might not be Fire Emblem....

I heard that Fire Emblem is good, but I haven't played it before. I do have a 3DS, so far I've only played Zelda Ocarina of Time, Resident Evil Revelations, and Zero Escape. I guess I love my PSVita better than my 3DS :D.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on March 25, 2014, 03:42:03 am
 Being a young bloke, I've only been able to return to the world(s) of fire emblem recently with Awakening. I've only played 2 of the games. FE7 or just fire emblem in English speaking countries and Awakening. I don't know how many times I've replayed FE7, but I'm pretty sure that I got that game done pretty well. i never won the hardest difficulty once though. Hard was hard enough for me back then. I really enjoyed Nino (funny name for a girl) and Eric the most from those games Oh and Canis? Canias? Damit the Sharman. Funny that they're all mages but whatever. Actually I'll add Marcus since I got him to lv 20 early on using an arena and could carry so well he took on all the enemies in an area by himself. My favourite in Awakening are Gregor, Henry (YAY BLOOD!) and Nowi. I ended up with Sumia for some reason. Not so sure that was a good idea in hind sight. I have no idea how Cynthia was our kid (bit too simple)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 25, 2014, 05:39:30 am
@Agus
You should check out Awakening if you ever get the chance. I'd obviously recommend it highly. Or, if you have a GBA/are willing to emulate, you could check out one of the older games, such as Fire Emblem or Sacred Stones. I wouldn't recommend Shadow Dragon as your first Fire Emblem game, however. I did enjoy it, but it doesn't quite equal the others, being a remake of a NES/Famicom game and all.

@Ledabot
I absolutely love your taste in characters. And yes, Cynthia is rather... energetic. She seems nothing like her parents. I mean, regardless of whoever her parents are, she's still nothing like them. I believe the Shaman's name to be Canas, so you were pretty close. Also, did you really mean to say you like Erik? Considering your comment that they were all mages, I would assume you actually meant Erk. However, it would be interesting to meet a fan of Erik, as I wasn't sure such a thing existed.

This is an embarrassing secret, but
Spoiler
I've never completed my favorite Fire Emblem on anything other than Normal difficulty.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on March 25, 2014, 09:45:03 am
 I think its perfectly normal to not complete an rpg multiple times. You are invested in the characters. Why would you want to create a world where they're different? You feel happy with what you have but if you were suddenly thrown into another world where they aren't quite the same, it would feel a little uncomfortable.
On Erik, I indeed meant Erk and Canas was the name on the tip of my tongue. After consulting the wiki, I learned the importance of the letter i. Dam I hated that guy.
 
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 25, 2014, 10:18:07 pm
Indeed. Erik was an arseface in Fire Emblem, and he was an arseface in the sequel as well. Although Erk's pretty good at being a jerk at times, he's a likeable jerk.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Oreo_Blue on March 25, 2014, 11:37:00 pm
A few of RPGs that I've played two or more times (from start to finish):
1. Zelda Ocarina of Time (IMO the best Zelda game ever)
2. Chrono Trigger (Multiple endings RPG)
3. Final Fantasy VI (Played different version releases)
4. Final Fantasy VII (The best FF story)
5. Final Fantasy IX (Second best FF story)
7. Final Fantasy Tactics (I think it's normal to play tactical games over and over)
8. Suikoden (best Suikoden)
9. Suikoden 2 (2nd best Suikoden)
10. Legend of Dragoon (I love the Dragoon armor design, I'll play it again if they have the English version on PSN)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on March 26, 2014, 12:23:59 am
Even the older Fire emblem games are good Oreo. You can find a emulator of the old ones you cant get anymore and give them a go easy enough. I would recommend just buying awakening more though. Better to support the makers. Once you have a copy, you can add it to the the list of replayed games given time. They all have unlockable difficulty levels so they can be played again if you want. I started another game with a girl character so that I get different dialogue and boy, the harder difficulty's sure are harder. No such thing as 100% dodge in this one!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 26, 2014, 12:57:18 am
I played Awakening in Lunatic. I actualy beat it. Strangely, I find it much easier than Hard 5 in Shadow Dragon, even though Lunatic's supposed to be harder than it. Of course, that might just be because I paired up with Nowi the whole time. Still, it was difficult a lot of the time, and I'm not all that good at it. I would really recommend new players start with Normal. Although, as you've already completed Normal, moving up is the next logical step. Which difficulty are you playing this time, Hard or Lunatic? Also, Casual or Classic?

Also, everything else in Awakening seems easy once you discover
Spoiler
Lunatic Plus
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Oreo_Blue on March 26, 2014, 12:59:54 am
I don't really like to play with 3DS. maybe because it's dual screen, or maybe because of the uncomfortable button (I have big fingers), or maybe I'm just a Sony fanboy :D (most of the gadget / electronic products I use are Sony branded). Zelda Ocarina of Time, and Resident Evil Revelations were my only reason to buy a 3DS :D.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on March 26, 2014, 02:21:27 am
I played Awakening in Lunatic. I actualy beat it. Strangely, I find it much easier than Hard 5 in Shadow Dragon, even though Lunatic's supposed to be harder than it. Of course, that might just be because I paired up with Nowi the whole time. Still, it was difficult a lot of the time, and I'm not all that good at it. I would really recommend new players start with Normal. Although, as you've already completed Normal, moving up is the next logical step. Which difficulty are you playing this time, Hard or Lunatic? Also, Casual or Classic?

Also, everything else in Awakening seems easy once you discover
Spoiler
Lunatic Plus

I'm playing on hard this time. I guess its just training wheels off mode this time. Man the game holds your hand as you play on normal.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 26, 2014, 03:14:32 am
@Agus
Originally, I only bought my 3DS for Awakening, and even now, the only other game I've completed on it is Shin Megami Tensei IV. I do plan to get Virtue's Last Reward sometime, however. Other than that, there isn't much that interests me that much. As for the Vita, I do plan to get one eventually, but for now, any large amount of money I get is going to go into building a new computer. When I do finally get one, the Disgaea games, the upcoming Corpse Party, and any and all games in the Danganronpa series are so going to be mine.

@Ledabot
I know the feeling. What really gets me is how they go through the entire tutorial section in every game, despite the fact that I've beaten several before. I mean, I know how to walk already! You don't need to keep reminding me! At least there's an option to turn off the tutorials in Awakening.

Hard mode can be a lot of fun. Especially since you can't just pair Chrom and Frederick and take zero damage during the entire prologue. I mean, it's still an easy battle, even now, but it IS just the prologue. Everything can get a bit hectic, especially once everything gets promoted and all the enemy units get about seven movement. Although there's always the option of throwing a bunch of tanks out and pressing "End Turn" until everything dies.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on April 02, 2014, 02:07:44 pm
Being over 6,000 years old, Lord Gorchnik has had the free time to explore all the games of said series and rejoice my fine topic-making friend, as this series does indeed have my approval.

I can't quite name a favorite because each game in the series did something new or added a new feature that was interesting at the time of release.  If I had to choose favorite characters in terms of design it would be Hector and Raven from FE7.  They look like they mean business, are dressed for the part, and have a no-nonsense attitude as you should in war.

In terms of just lovable/playable/fun though, almost any character can take the cake.  Lyn from FE7, Sheeda and Oguma from FE1, Nowi from FE:A.  All are good fun.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 02, 2014, 04:22:46 pm
We have yet another Fire Emblem fan in our midst! Very good. If only there were a Fire Emblem mmo or something similar, we could all band together and do battle against the mighty forces of the Red Mook Army. I do like your taste in characters, Lord Gorchnik. Your name, as well, is as marvelous as always.

Say, which Fire Emblem game have you played most out of them all? Also, how many games have you managed to play in the last six thousand years? What types of games did they even have that long ago?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on April 02, 2014, 04:53:41 pm
We have yet another Fire Emblem fan in our midst! Very good. If only there were a Fire Emblem mmo or something similar, we could all band together and do battle against the mighty forces of the Red Mook Army. I do like your taste in characters, Lord Gorchnik. Your name, as well, is as marvelous as always.

Say, which Fire Emblem game have you played most out of them all? Also, how many games have you managed to play in the last six thousand years? What types of games did they even have that long ago?

Lord Gorchnik has spent most of his time with Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu (4), Fire Emblem: Rekka no Ken (7) and 3rd place would probably be Fire Emblem: Awakening, the most recent of the series.  And you are wise to question your lord's free time in the past 6,000 years.  Unfortunately, it would probably take me another 6,000 to explain them to you.  In your calender, there was a great game around 787 AD where people started getting on these mammals called horses and trying to knock each other off with long pieces of wood.  In some cases the ones who won would get lands, women, and riches beyond their wildest dreams.  While the losers were faced with shame, ridicule, and sometimes even death.

Ahhhh it was glorious.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 02, 2014, 04:59:17 pm
Unfortunately, I am not currently immortal, so I shall need to pass on the epic tales of your past. I do believe I've heard tale of that game, actually. It seems some people still deem it entertaining in the age of Sunrider, Fire Emblem, and all of the porn on the internet.

Some people I will never understand.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on April 03, 2014, 08:41:28 pm
I think many people enjoy hitting each other with bits of wood, poking each other with bits of wood on and off horses and shooting things with bits of wood. Don't ask for any examples though. I don't know any of these people in person.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AMT on July 06, 2014, 01:57:10 pm
Hmmmm, not sure where to start.

But I'm guessing if I don't post here in the end, Elvis and co. will have me for breakfast.

Anyway, my favorite (and so far the only) FE game was Awakening. As I mentioned before, my favorite characters are probably Avatar, Lucina and Cordelia, though I generally like everyone in this game; even the villains have a certain appeal to them here. That's pretty rare for me in a game.

I like most of the classes, though Tactician/Grandmaster is my favorite probably, due to the ability to do both magic and melee, and do it relatively well. Ignis skill in particular helps. And like I said in my introductory post, I also dig Hero, Great Knight and Sorcerer. Dark Pegasi are nice too, because Gale Force. Gale Force Lucina is in class of her own.

I admit, while I play the game on Hard/Classic setting, I'm mostly in it for the Supports. All the supports in this game are pretty good, and I love all these little character developments interwoven into the plot.

Not sure what else to say, ehehehehehe.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Kalduil on July 06, 2014, 02:19:43 pm
That's the thing about the FE series. Each character really doesn't play big into the plot (mainly because they can die) but they each get their own development over the game. It's also what makes playing Hard/Classic (or any of the older games) a really tactical game. If you lose someone, that's it, and you can't help but feel disappointed that you got one of your allies killed because they followed your plans. =(

Tactician and Grandmaster is a great class, with great abilities, the skills it gets are all very good at boosting your other units. Exception being Ignis, but that's one of the better attack skills out there. The ability to attack physically or magically is also a huge boon. Personally, I can't get behind Great Knights, as they have two weaknesses (beast and armor) and have one of the worst skill stats of the fighters (only Berserkers have less). Heroes are pretty solid ground units. I think Swordmasters are better, but Heroes get Sol, which is superior to Astra in my opinion. And Dark Pegasus' Gale Force is... Gale Force. haha I suggest trying a General out. They have low move, but they have very high HP, STR, DEF, and SKL. They just lack EVA, RES, and MV but you can pair them up with a Falcon Knight or Dark Flier to make up for that. They are especially good in the Valm story arc because that arc is very physically heavy. Also, try getting Counter from Warriors on some of your male units. It is one of the better skills as well.

The supports are what makes all the character development in the game. The sheer amount of pairings included is enough to keep you busy for days. Then you get children characters and you have another generation of characters to pair up! You are not only a tactician on the battlefield of war, but also on the battlefield of love. >.<

So, where in the story are you? I assume you've beaten it? What postgame things have ya done? Any DLC episodes?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 06, 2014, 02:36:50 pm
I'm guessing if I don't post here in the end, Elvis and co. will have me for breakfast.
I'm not that scary am I? The only things I enjoy killing are PACT ships and Angels, really.

If you lose someone, that's it, and you can't help but feel disappointed that you got one of your allies killed because they followed your plans.
This is about the time I reset the game, honestly. Screw you, Death! You'll never take my people!

Awakening actually allows you to view way more Support Conversations than any past Fire Emblem game. The first several didn't even have Support Conversations, actually, and neither did the remake of the first. The ones that did limited you to getting a total of five per character, and most characters couldn't support each other. It was limited to a select few options for each one. Awakening really has opened a lot of options up.

Believe it or not, the Pair Up feature never existed before either. Oh, and there used to be a thing called Light Magic. It was cool. Also, for a long time, there was no way to change your unit from one base/promoted class to a different base/promoted class. Everyone just had fourty levels in total, and that was that. Things were weird back then.

I'm actually wondering what they're going to do for the next game. Keep things similar to Awakening? Switch back to some older ideas? Change everything again, in an attempt to make everything better? Worked last time, after all, in my opinion.

Personally, I wouldn't mind another 3DS Fire Emblem that works a lot like Awakening. Wouldn't mind it at all.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AMT on July 06, 2014, 02:44:39 pm
I remember there's a moment in the game where Avatar tells someone - probably Lucina - that he isn't interested in "as little casualties as possible". He's aiming for none. That was a nice nod to player mentality in these games, I think.

My fondness for the Great Knight probably comes from all the guarding my Fredrick did to all the characters back when they were weaker. I found them to be also a decent back-up to my more fragile classes as mages or archers, though I suppose I could be using someone different.

Indeed! Not to mention all these different possibilities! A blond Severa, a black-haired one...one more magic-oriented, another with Astra...there's just no end to it.

I've gotten pretty far into the story, but then I lost my saves  :-\

I already know how it turns out though, so no need to worry about the spoilers. I did get all the "support" DLCs, like Summer Scramble. As well as a couple of those card-collecting ones (where you recruit old FE heroes).

I'm not that scary am I? The only things I enjoy killing are PACT ships and Angels, really.

Life has taught me to be careful of the quiet ones, heh.

Hmmm, I'm personally interested in a Fire Emblem game set in the age of gunpowder and steam. It seems like the world in Awakening is slowly advancing towards that stage. Would be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 06, 2014, 02:51:47 pm
Hmmm, I'm personally interested in a Fire Emblem game set in the age of gunpowder and steam. It seems like the world in Awakening is slowly advancing towards that stage. Would be interesting to see.
Well, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but recently, Intelligent Systems (the group behind the Fire Emblem series) unveiled a brand new game in the works, which is a turn based RPG (though more similar to Valkeria Chronicles than Fire Emblem) for the 3DS, where there are both guns and steam. So much steam, the game is NAMED Code Name : S.T.E.A.M.

Check it out if you're interested. The graphics aren't quite what you might be expecting, but I personally think it's going to be awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayzMMpE2lTM

Also, there was actually some talk about creating a Fire Emblem game set on Mars, before Awakening was created. While I doubt it'll happen, there's a chance they might skip over steam and get straight into the future.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 06, 2014, 11:27:02 pm
The time....1996
The place....Gorchnik's living room.
The game....Fire Emblem IV
The system....Super Famicom

Gorchnik reset his cartridge many a time that day.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AMT on July 07, 2014, 11:05:39 am
Well, that was interesting. Didn't see that one coming, lol.

Also, there was actually some talk about creating a Fire Emblem game set on Mars, before Awakening was created. While I doubt it'll happen, there's a chance they might skip over steam and get straight into the future.

I have this weird image of Fire Emblem style Battlezone game now. Thank you.
Communist Pilot-chan vs. MURRICAN STRONK SPACE MARINE is now a go. Plus, all those supports full of sexual tensio


Alternatively, a 1800s style Fire Emblem. Repeating rifles. Machienguns. Colonialism. Magic-powered colonial machieguns  :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 17, 2014, 09:02:04 pm
Hmmm, I'm personally interested in a Fire Emblem game set in the age of gunpowder and steam. It seems like the world in Awakening is slowly advancing towards that stage. Would be interesting to see.
Well, it's not exactly what you're looking for, but recently, Intelligent Systems (the group behind the Fire Emblem series) unveiled a brand new game in the works, which is a turn based RPG (though more similar to Valkeria Chronicles than Fire Emblem) for the 3DS, where there are both guns and steam. So much steam, the game is NAMED Code Name : S.T.E.A.M.

Check it out if you're interested. The graphics aren't quite what you might be expecting, but I personally think it's going to be awesome. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayzMMpE2lTM

Also, there was actually some talk about creating a Fire Emblem game set on Mars, before Awakening was created. While I doubt it'll happen, there's a chance they might skip over steam and get straight into the future.

Dang now I hate sega for not releasing Valkyria on PS Vita. and potentially kill the series

I want to play Trakia, heard its one of hardest (other than DS/3DS series with steroid difficulty)
Also waiting for new Advanced Wars. They said that they haven't given up, just that Fire Emblem is more guarantee-able success.
(Advanced Wars days of ruin had everything ready for release in japan but they did not since they didn't expect sale. Compared to that SRPG forum on many Japanese sites are all about Super Robot Wars and Fire Emblem.)
I kinda hunger for more Fire Emblem so I read the manga which is story of Roy in different view point, as well as the manga same author is drawing, Sacred Blacksmith based on light novel of same name.
Also I wish to play the game made by 'Original' creator of Fire Emblem after Nintendo sued him, the Berwick Saga.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 17, 2014, 09:04:06 pm
Also I wish to play the game made by 'Original' creator of Fire Emblem after Nintendo sued him, the Berwick Saga.

You're not missing much.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 18, 2014, 12:13:47 am
Reading Awakening short comics and can't believe I missed this :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 19, 2014, 10:59:43 am
Ah, a Fire Emblem post. I don't know how I still I didn't found it (or been invited). Well, let's see
The time....1996
The place....Gorchnik's living room.
The game....Fire Emblem IV
The system....Super Famicom

Gorchnik reset his cartridge many a time that day.
Ah, Holy War on the SNES. Still probably the best FE in the saga. I have played it on emulator, and still haven't finished (some day, some day...), but it is hard. The possibility of saving each turn is the only salvation (and I admit that I shamefully turned to save states of the emulator to save time). It is really worth it though, each chapter starting with the 2nd is a new definition of epic (well, the first half of the 3d and 4th are a little slow, but all have very strong middles, so it compenses).

Also I wish to play the game made by 'Original' creator of Fire Emblem after Nintendo sued him, the Berwick Saga.

You're not missing much.

Is that true, my lord? A shame, I heard some of the translations and the story semeed quite good, and the gameplay looked decent (2 paths, 40 chapters,etc) . Also Runan resembled Leaf, so I hoped he was as good as him

Are a lot of people here playing in Hard and Lunatic (except for our Lord, which of course does it and finds it easy)? You have my respect. I played FE for the first time when I was eleven. When I realized that after Erks HP went to zero, he simply dissapeared, not even a dialogue saying he was hurt like in Lyn's story, it really shocked me. I started playing very cautiously since then, but this resulted in overusing the Jeigan, and etc. I only stopped stucking by Radiant Dawn. Even now I have a slight panic of hard mode by fear of losing one unit (despite breezing in Awakening's normal without even thinking).

(I played all FE since 7, also 4, and someday I'm going to try FE 12 with the translation. Some day...)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on July 19, 2014, 12:53:13 pm
Dang now I hate sega for not releasing Valkyria on PS Vita. and potentially kill the series
Sega pretty much killed it already when they did such a poor job of marketing VC2, and of course many Western so-called fans of the series also had their own part in killing it by being so superficial that the graphical "downgrade" of the series from PS3 to PSP drove them away, as all available info suggested that at least in Japan VC2 and VC3 each sold similar numbers to the first.

Of course, Bayonetta as a series was also in a similar situation of franchise limbo with Sega until Nintendo came riding to the rescue. Who knows, maybe Code Name: STEAM might somehow miraculously lead to a surprise revival of Valkyria Chronicles.


... And while we're on the subject of Valkyria Chronicles, my pretties (http://innomenpro.com/forums/index.php?topic=222.msg7944#msg7944).

P.S.
While it's not Fire Emblem itself, for any fans of the series who somehow managed to miss this announcement, it's awesome:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MW6TpZPYd58
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Oreo_Blue on July 19, 2014, 01:50:06 pm
SEGA must release Yakuza 5 in English!!

Edit: and Yakuza Kenzan! as well while they're at it :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 19, 2014, 03:50:05 pm
Are a lot of people here playing in Hard and Lunatic (except for our Lord, which of course does it and finds it easy)? You have my respect. I played FE for the first time when I was eleven. When I realized that after Erks HP went to zero, he simply dissapeared, not even a dialogue saying he was hurt like in Lyn's story, it really shocked me. I started playing very cautiously since then, but this resulted in overusing the Jeigan, and etc. I only stopped stucking by Radiant Dawn. Even now I have a slight panic of hard mode by fear of losing one unit (despite breezing in Awakening's normal without even thinking).
It depends on the game, for me. I mostly play FE7 on Normal, though I know I could probably beat the higher difficulties easily. FE8 I play on Hard, though that's not saying much. Awakening I'll play on any difficulty as except Lunatic Plus, because no. Lunatic on FE12 gives me a much harder time than Lunatic on FE13, for some reason. I started playing Path of Radiance recently on Normal, but it got so boring half way through, I basically lost interest. I play to start over on Hard at some point in the future.

I remember playing Path of Radiance once with a friend who had never played any Fire Emblem games before. Every battle, we'd switch who was in control. We each got to pick a couple characters that couldn't die, or either player would restart. Other than that, everyone was fair game. I remember we also agreed to keep Rhys alive, as he was our only healer. We must have restarted twenty times for that guy.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 19, 2014, 05:08:12 pm
Yeah the + or star difficulty on DS,3DS series force you to use ranged units. Reduces fun.
Ill rather have enemy with twice stat than to break the law of the game.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 20, 2014, 12:43:21 am
Gorchnik really feels bad for people who started with Fire Emblem 7.  Even on Hard mode it is so easy compared to previous Fire Emblems.  Not just because of the new GBA enhancements, but really and truly Intelligent Systems toned down so much.  Awakening's legendary mode will give you a decent run for its money but it doesn't come close to some of the older installment's chapters.

Of course more difficult doesn't necessarily mean better.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 20, 2014, 01:23:10 am
Gorchnik really feels bad for people who started with Fire Emblem 7.  Even on Hard mode it is so easy compared to previous Fire Emblems.  Not just because of the new GBA enhancements, but really and truly Intelligent Systems toned down so much.  Awakening's legendary mode will give you a decent run for its money but it doesn't come close to some of the older installment's chapters.

Of course more difficult doesn't necessarily mean better.

its cuz hector is op. Also that enemy becoming ally has the hard difficulty bonus stat so they are amazingly strong.
Also you don't need to train mage cuz sage you get later is stronger then elk at same level. (tatstafflevel) and etc adds up.
I think not having to use Eliwood as the main is best benefit.

I still found it harder then 8 cuz u have to farm with Colosseum not zombies :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 20, 2014, 07:56:18 am
I still found it harder then 8 cuz u have to farm with Colosseum not zombies :D

Everything (even normal Awakening) is harder than 8

Gorchnik really feels bad for people who started with Fire Emblem 7.  Even on Hard mode it is so easy compared to previous Fire Emblems.  Not just because of the new GBA enhancements, but really and truly Intelligent Systems toned down so much.  Awakening's legendary mode will give you a decent run for its money but it doesn't come close to some of the older installment's chapters.

Of course more difficult doesn't necessarily mean better.

Actually, this I think that proves that I have a little trauma with dificulty on FE. I could manage FE 4 without that much difficulty, and FE 11, which on normal was only slightly easier than FE 1 also did not gave me much problems. But the idea of returning to FE 7 again and trying it in Hector mode, it is slightly frightening. I always prefered Eliwood to Hector

It is a shame that Nintendo hasn't released the game on virtual console, because my cartridge somehow broke.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 20, 2014, 08:00:36 am
the idea of returning to FE 7 again and trying it in Hector mode, it is slightly frightening. I always prefered Eliwood to Hector
Strangely enough, I can agree with all of this. I can beat Hard 5 in Shadow Dragon, and Lunatic in Awakening, yet HHM scares the pants off me. It's possibly because I screw up a lot and don't want to watch my favorite characters die over and over, but even that doesn't fully explain it.

Also, Eliwood for the win.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on July 20, 2014, 10:57:52 am
Hmm. I liked hector the most in FE 7. Elwood just seemed too perfect princey for me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 20, 2014, 12:29:30 pm
Hmm. I liked hector the most in FE 7. Elwood just seemed too perfect princey for me.

Not seem, he is. He cant even use his legendary sword that 70% of time he lacks stat and dragon 1 turn kills him in combat.
eliwood's legendary wep was supposed to be for lyn
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 21, 2014, 04:02:09 am
Hector does indeed trump all the others. Lyn wasn't that bad either but most people hate her for the forced tutorial BS. Eliwood was just crap.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 21, 2014, 04:06:56 am
Lyn's section of the game was actually my favorite, tutorial or no tutorial. Storywise, that's where everything felt best, to me. No dragons or demons coming to destroy the world. No armies of fifty units to choose from and command. Just a small, ragtag group, setting out to right a wrong and save a few precious people. I know full well that I'm vastly in the minority here, but alas, some things cannot be helped.

Also, including Lucina, Lyn is still my favorite female Lord in the series.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 21, 2014, 04:26:01 am
Lyn's section of the game was actually my favorite, tutorial or no tutorial. Storywise, that's where everything felt best, to me. No dragons or demons coming to destroy the world. No armies of fifty units to choose from and command. Just a small, ragtag group, setting out to right a wrong and save a few precious people. I know full well that I'm vastly in the minority here, but alas, some things cannot be helped.

Also, including Lucina, Lyn is still my favorite female Lord in the series.

I remember first time I played fire emblem, I did not know english nor clue of how this game works.

lyn was all by her self until chapter 4 when I realized that dead people don't come back.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on July 21, 2014, 05:31:31 am
Wind across the plains. Their are no words that being more nostalgia than those.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 21, 2014, 07:12:05 am
Hmm. I liked hector the most in FE 7. Elwood just seemed too perfect princey for me.

Actually, this was the reason I liked Eliwood, because it was a perfect princey but done right. While he was naive, he was mature enogh to realize it, and he didn't have the inexperience and immatureness of the typical FE lord. He was very different from your typical Marth clone. Furthermore, he was a looot better than Roy, who's only unique feature was that he could hook up with 6 woman. And Seliph owes a lot to his father and mother, by himself he was little more than a Marth's clone. Until Ike and Ephraim I think that none of the FE lords reached this point of being both a complex character and their archetype that really makes the characteritzation stand up. Hector was fun, but was a doofus, and Lyn was good too, but also slightly simple (I would have liked her staying at Calein, it would have made good character development). Leaf's was very good too, but the point of his game was precisely his character development from a standard immature and idealist hero to a Wise Prince, so it wasn't really complex.

Wind across the plains. Their are no words that being more nostalgia than those.
Ughh, the nostalgia is killing me...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 26, 2014, 04:56:34 pm
http://s29.postimg.org/c5cawjs2f/077d63cb7a4f44aa19940ae1516013b5.gif


Thx pixiv.


This came out before Lucina / Robin trailer.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 26, 2014, 09:18:53 pm
http://s29.postimg.org/c5cawjs2f/077d63cb7a4f44aa19940ae1516013b5.gif


Thx pixiv.


This came out before Lucina / Robin trailer.

Truth be told, Gorchnik is surprised someone hasn't used that Hiter-rant scene for the new Smash Bros roster upsets yet.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 14, 2015, 04:12:32 pm
Bringing this topic back to life, folks. There's a new Fire Emblem! Everyone be hype as this is the best news in recent centuries! We even have a trailer, and the characters have feet! Not to mention all the other awesome things in the trailer. Click the link and check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz2LJ-4DDWU
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 14, 2015, 05:41:18 pm
god (&^*&^ I knew my dream of playing some 2d sprite fire emblem game two days ago was a good omen.

my dreams always come true!

now from that day's dream list.. I gotta go on a adventure with Asuka in eva and get arrested for traffic violation... when I don't even drive
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 15, 2015, 02:45:25 am
Bringing this topic back to life, folks. There's a new Fire Emblem! Everyone be hype as this is the best news in recent centuries! We even have a trailer, and the characters have feet! Not to mention all the other awesome things in the trailer. Click the link and check it out!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pz2LJ-4DDWU

Impressive. It seems to give a lot more of a oriental feel than other FEs (the music and style of armour, the pegasus knights even have naginatas). Aside from that there's no sign of Marth's standard blue hair (the woman at the beginning has it too light), so we may be dealing with a new World. Since they are basically copying the game system of Awakening I hope that this means they can put more time towards the backstory and setting (and so avoid a mess like Awakening's...). It looks promising.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on January 15, 2015, 03:18:47 am
Her hair was similar to nil's or ninuan's hair I think. I'm suspecting more dragon kids. FE.... we did that story already. I hope I'm wrong and shes just a dancer chick without dragon bits.

I think the armor was very odd. Of course the mermadons had eastern style armor, but they are eastern styled units. everything else, even the pegies with naginatas had rather western styled helmets at least. the spear solders that turned into a painting had Spanish style helmets.


Rock dude had a distinctive greek look to me. I guess you have to say that the designs are all over the place.

That one prince guy looks fabulous. I guess this means we need to take new waifus and husbandus?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 14, 2015, 08:31:30 pm
Ninian was the first thing that crossed my mind when I saw the dancer, as well. I'm betting she won't be the dragon character though. Personally I'm hoping for some new dragon lolis; Fire Emblem has never disappointed in that regard before. Though there's a chance dragons won't factor heavily into the plot this time around/might not exist at all in this universe, which would allow room for new, stranger types of monster lolis.

Not sure why, but I get the impression the story might be a bit darker/deeper than Awakening's, at least. Happiness and hope are cool and all, but let's have some soul-crushing despair this time around. Bet this game ends up selling as well as Awakening did, maybe better.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 15, 2015, 06:07:56 am
Not sure why, but I get the impression the story might be a bit darker/deeper than Awakening's, at least. Happiness and hope are cool and all, but let's have some soul-crushing despair this time around. Bet this game ends up selling as well as Awakening did, maybe better.

A potato salad can have a story darker and deeper than Awakening... I loved the game and its characters, but after the first ten chapters it seemed they simply decided to put the old games in a mix and paint something on it. I hope this time they work at least on the setting a little bit more.

Her hair was similar to nil's or nina's hair I think. I'm suspecting more dragon kids. FE.... we did that story already. I hope I'm wrong and shes just a dancer chick without dragon bits.

I think the armor was very odd. Of course the mermadons had eastern style armor, but they are eastern styled units. everything else, even the pegies with naginatas had rather western styled helmets at least. the spear solders that turned into a painting had Spanish style helmets.


Rock dude had a distinctive greek look to me. I guess you have to say that the designs are all over the place.

That one prince guy looks fabulous. I guess this means we need to take new waifus and husbandus?


Actually, to me the helms look precisely like someone used to drawing oriental helmets trying to put a western feel on it. They remind me more of persian helmets than standard western ones 8the fact that they use masks probably helps). And yeah, the Spanish pikemen (or Swiss depending on how you squint) were a contrast, to me it looked like they came out of nowhere (like the golem, which decidedly looks Greek).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Psieye on January 15, 2015, 06:54:21 am
Ah, and yet another FE game comes out. FE8 was the last that I touched, my list stretches back to FE1 (missing 2 and 6). Never did own a console after the SNES.

Overall favourite character? Rakache, daughter of Ayra. Otherwise I'd have answered Chiki (because I killed her on my first ever FE1 run as I didn't know any Japanese and had no awareness of how FE worked). But it has to be Rakache after her saga on the last stage:

FE4 had hit & run mechanics for cavalry. Rakache was standing at a chokepoint bridge. A regiment of 20 elite Axe-Knights all had enough movement to attack her. Every one of them would miss and then die on the counterattack - this was nothing unusual. Then the sword in her hand broke. In FE4, this made it a 0 Atk, Max Encumberance item (idea being, you go get it repaired in town). She couldn't guarantee a kill on the knights anymore, but she still dodged nearly everything despite the awkward weight in her hands.

The commander of the knights took his turn. He inherited the mythic blood of the axe-hero. In his hand was his birthright weapon: the axe of said legendary hero, handed down over the generations. With its buff, his Def stat was 47, the highest in the game. Having no mercy for a wounded girl whose weapon broke, he struck down (with lethal Atk) from horseback. He missed. Rakache glowed blue (Blue Moon Strike proc). The axe-hero's descendant hobbled away with 11 HP after being hit by a bare-hand attack.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on January 15, 2015, 03:12:24 am
Ah, and yet another FE game comes out. FE8 was the last that I touched, my list stretches back to FE1 (missing 2 and 6). Never did own a console after the SNES.

Overall favourite character? Lachesis. Otherwise I'd have answered Chiki (because I killed her on my first ever FE1 run as I didn't know any Japanese and had no awareness of how FE worked). But it has to be Lachesis after her saga on the last stage:

FE4 had hit & run mechanics for cavalry. Lachesis was standing at a chokepoint bridge. A regiment of 20 elite Axe-Knights all had enough movement to attack her. Every one of them would miss and then die on the counterattack - this was nothing unusual. Then the sword in her hand broke. In FE4, this made it a 0 Atk, Max Encumberance item (idea being, you go get it repaired in town). She couldn't guarantee a kill on the knights anymore, but she still dodged nearly everything despite the awkward weight in her hands.

The commander of the knights took his turn. He inherited the mythic blood of the axe-hero. In his hand was his birthright weapon: the axe of said legendary hero, handed down over the generations. With its buff, his Def stat was 47, the highest in the game. Having no mercy for a wounded girl whose weapon broke, he struck down (with lethal Atk) from horseback. He missed. Lachesis glowed blue (Blue Moon Strike proc). The axe-hero's descendant hobbled away with 11 HP after being hit by a bare-hand attack.

Lacesis : "u wat mate?!"
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on January 15, 2015, 02:22:23 pm
Ah yes, another Fire Emblem is always welcome in Lord Gorchnik's library.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 15, 2015, 03:06:16 pm
I do wish there was some news, any news, about SMT x FE.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 15, 2015, 03:58:08 pm
Ah, and yet another FE game comes out. FE8 was the last that I touched, my list stretches back to FE1 (missing 2 and 6). Never did own a console after the SNES.

Overall favourite character? Lachesis. Otherwise I'd have answered Chiki (because I killed her on my first ever FE1 run as I didn't know any Japanese and had no awareness of how FE worked). But it has to be Lachesis after her saga on the last stage:

FE4 had hit & run mechanics for cavalry. Lachesis was standing at a chokepoint bridge. A regiment of 20 elite Axe-Knights all had enough movement to attack her. Every one of them would miss and then die on the counterattack - this was nothing unusual. Then the sword in her hand broke. In FE4, this made it a 0 Atk, Max Encumberance item (idea being, you go get it repaired in town). She couldn't guarantee a kill on the knights anymore, but she still dodged nearly everything despite the awkward weight in her hands.

The commander of the knights took his turn. He inherited the mythic blood of the axe-hero. In his hand was his birthright weapon: the axe of said legendary hero, handed down over the generations. With its buff, his Def stat was 47, the highest in the game. Having no mercy for a wounded girl whose weapon broke, he struck down (with lethal Atk) from horseback. He missed. Lachesis glowed blue (Blue Moon Strike proc). The axe-hero's descendant hobbled away with 11 HP after being hit by a bare-hand attack.

... Don't you mean Lacke (or Larsei, as it has been officially romanized)? Lachesis was the brocon princess of Nodion on the first generation. The only boss with the Holy axe on the 1st generation is a Duke on castle, and Lachesis never really learns Blue Moon..

(If you talk about Ayra-Holyn Lacke then yeah, I agree, she is a monster)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on January 15, 2015, 06:42:16 pm
I do wish there was some news, any news, about SMT x FE.

I was just thinking about that too. I wonder which rock it's hiding under that they're releasing a whole other FE now too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Psieye on January 15, 2015, 10:15:06 pm
... Don't you mean Lacke (or Larsei, as it has been officially romanized)? Lachesis was the brocon princess of Nodion on the first generation. The only boss with the Holy axe on the 1st generation is a Duke on castle, and Lachesis never really learns Blue Moon..

(If you talk about Ayra-Holyn Lacke then yeah, I agree, she is a monster)
Hmm yeah, it's been too many years. I got Rakache (which is how I learnt to pronounce it when I was young and unskilled) and Lachesis mixed up. Yes I did mean daughter of Ayra, I'll go fix my post.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 16, 2015, 08:25:58 am
I do wish there was some news, any news, about SMT x FE.

I was just thinking about that too. I wonder which rock it's hiding under that they're releasing a whole other FE now too.

SMTxFE always had ATLUS as its main developers, Intelligent Systems only collaborated (and is an organization big enough that can spare some minor group to help in SMTxFE).  The problem is that shortly after the announcement is when all the problems of ATLUS with buyers and absorptions started. Not only SMTxFE, the remake of Devil Survivor 2 also got delayed a whole year. It's a little worrying that we still haven't seen anything more, but the team of SMT tend to takes things slowly.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 27, 2015, 07:20:12 pm
bought new 3ds just for a game that isnt even out yet.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 27, 2015, 07:49:12 pm
bought new 3ds just for a game that isnt even out yet.

SMTxFE is going to require the new 3DS? Didn't know that...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 27, 2015, 07:51:39 pm
New 3DS: now capable of playing WiiU games!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 27, 2015, 08:20:40 pm
oriental japan really fire emblem happening!


berwick saga when
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 27, 2015, 09:25:18 pm
New Fire Emblem : Venice vs Japan , spaghetti vs ramen, wine vs sake, maskerade vs yukata party!

Will western blademasters use rapiers then? Will they be called duelists?

If the westerners have golems, will the eastern have gundams?

All this and more on the new Fire Emblem If +meido waifus
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 28, 2015, 06:39:13 am
New Fire Emblem : Venice vs Japan , spaghetti vs ramen, wine vs sake, maskerade vs yukata party!

Will western blademasters use rapiers then? Will they be called duelists?

If the westerners have golems, will the eastern have gundams?

All this and more on the new Fire Emblem If +meido waifus

I'm sorry for the japanese, but they lose quite handily in almost everything, except maybe, and that's a big maybe, cuisine. And Gundams, but Gundams always win

As long as the new setting is interesting I don't mind some weird connotations it may have, but meido waifus are always a plus.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: The Nothing on March 28, 2015, 10:08:35 am
I'm not sure to understand what you guys means.

What's that new Fire Emblem with golems and gundams ?  8)

Just kidding, still I'm very surprised, a FE cross over that's... Weird. Moreover with SMT a game I never heard about, maybe because no one has been released in Europe.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Zkurosu on March 28, 2015, 10:13:07 am
What Shin Megami character is getting crossed-over o.o? Also the clip for the new fire emblem didn't seem far more andvanced in graphics besides the battle transition \o-o/
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 28, 2015, 01:22:32 pm
I'm not sure to understand what you guys means.

What's that new Fire Emblem with golems and gundams ?  8)

Just kidding, still I'm very surprised, a FE cross over that's... Weird. Moreover with SMT a game I never heard about, maybe because no one has been released in Europe.



We've had both Devil Survivors here (I have them on my shelf). SMT: Nocturne (called here "SMT: Lucifer's Call"), SMT IV and both Digital Devil Saga also got released, like every persona after Persona 3. While the releases are always very laaaaate, we still have them, though only in English and very limited quantities (at least on the big Five European countries, videogame market on eastern Europe is underdeveloped enough that they simply may have not sent any shipping there).

And it will probably be a special setting, starting with modern Tokyo (like the half of SMTs) suddenly change by a bizarre incident, but now with human allies and not only demons. The doubt is if the game will be cameo-based (as in, basically fanservice for SMT and FE fans) or will try to develop something entirely new.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: The Nothing on March 28, 2015, 06:00:24 pm
In fact, in my countrie, SMT IV was never released, and no video game website knows the other games. Tssss always the same, old Europe can't have the best of japan games. ^^

By the way, which FE is your favourite ? For me, this is hard to say... Path of radiance was wonderfull, still not very hard. Fire Emblem : Rekka no ken was harder, the story was very interesting ^^ Maybe it's my favourite, but it's also the first one I played.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 28, 2015, 06:09:56 pm
By the way, which FE is your favourite ? For me, this is hard to say... Path of radiance was wonderfull, still not very hard. Fire Emblem : Rekka no ken was harder, the story was very interesting ^^ Maybe it's my favourite, but it's also the first one I played.
Rekka no ken remains my favorite even now.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 28, 2015, 06:20:48 pm
What Shin Megami character is getting crossed-over o.o? Also the clip for the new fire emblem didn't seem far more andvanced in graphics besides the battle transition \o-o/

WHAT? You didn't notice the biggest change in the character designs? ALL UNITS NOW HAVE FEET!!!!
FEET!!!

And about the SMT games, I haven't played any of them. They seem not to be very popular in my country . But from the vids I've seen they just look like the type of game I'd love.




Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 28, 2015, 06:24:53 pm
And suddenly I am reminded of the fact that we have a Shin Megami Tensei topic (http://innomenpro.com/forums/index.php?topic=1038.0).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 28, 2015, 06:54:38 pm
yeah. hector from blazing sword is so sexy and handsome...
He changed the 'Mr. nice princy' of main characters for sure.

but awakening is just too advanced... I must follow the time...

but balance wise I enjoyed Blazing Sword the most I guess. maybe cuz since I can't farm exp freely I tried all my best to torture enemy squeeze as much exp as possible.

enemy healers are a important diet of my units.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 28, 2015, 07:07:11 pm
In fact, in my countrie, SMT IV was never released, and no video game website knows the other games. Tssss always the same, old Europe can't have the best of japan games. ^^

But what I'm telling you is that they have been released in Europe, just that your country stores doesn't have them... I mean, I'm European myself, as should have been more than clear for my posts. It's just that I luckily I'm in one of the big five so I have it easier, but they are in Europe.

As an advise, I tend to get most of my niche games through Amazon. They are cheaper, easier to get, and don't have the stock problem (I've received copies that were intended to go to Germany or UK more than once, but since most games are in English it doesn't matter). And store owners don't look weirdly at you


As for FE games, my favourite must be Genealogy of the Holy War (Seisen no keifu). It hasn't aged all that well, and has plenty of flaws, but it's also one of the few that managed to truly immerse me in the plot and the setting, while the gameplay is top-notch, superior to the GBA tittles in my opinion. Rekka no ken is a close second though, through the sheer force of characters, presentation, etc. It may be the nostalgia goggles, but I always felt the presentation, ambiance and music made the game truly great.

After that, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn are pretty close to me (as much as the story of Radiant Dawn was full of holes and strange things, a lot of the ideas were pretty neat, and it also has probable the most epic battles and stages in scale and gameplay, specially chapter 3 which was a total blast). Shadow Dragon, Sacred Stones and Awakening were "I fully enjoyed them and love them, but they didn't impress me that much".
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Zkurosu on March 28, 2015, 10:11:39 pm


WHAT? You didn't notice the biggest change in the character designs? ALL UNITS NOW HAVE FEET!!!!
FEET!!!

And about the SMT games, I haven't played any of them. They seem not to be very popular in my country . But from the vids I've seen they just look like the type of game I'd love.
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Well the games themselves are pretty fun since defense means almost nothing and the last boss is impossible to beat if RNG decides to be a dick, I personally enjoyed the rather charismatic responses you can give to units you wanna tame and such, if ya didn't read the link Elvis gave I hope this was helpful ^^
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 28, 2015, 10:47:33 pm
yeah some of the RNG stuff needs to go away but its tradition so gotta suck it up.

well, up to easy difficulties like lunatic is still easy. problem is lunatic +. you can't really beat this properly unless ur lvl up rng works on your favor 90% of the time.
if not you gotta grind at dlc maps.
they say that they know random stat increase is bit too much of rng but its tradition.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 28, 2015, 10:55:10 pm
yeah some of the RNG stuff needs to go away but its tradition so gotta suck it up.

well, up to easy difficulties like lunatic is still easy. problem is lunatic +. you can't really beat this properly unless ur lvl up rng works on your favor 90% of the time.
if not you gotta grind at dlc maps.
they say that they know random stat increase is bit too much of rng but its tradition.

Akio, I think he was talking about SMT games, where the RNG is even more bullsh*t than in FE. In FE you can at least control most situations.


...In SMT you can find, well, this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIjVvnO5lgM)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Zkurosu on March 28, 2015, 10:58:07 pm
yeah some of the RNG stuff needs to go away but its tradition so gotta suck it up.

well, up to easy difficulties like lunatic is still easy. problem is lunatic +. you can't really beat this properly unless ur lvl up rng works on your favor 90% of the time.
if not you gotta grind at dlc maps.
they say that they know random stat increase is bit too much of rng but its tradition.

Im fine with the random stats up o.o, the RNG in Fire Emblem dosen't really add to the difficulty imo, I saw talking about the latest SMT game where I was fighting the last boss and then my entire team got one-shot by his dark move, despite the fact they all had resistance.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 28, 2015, 11:17:37 pm
i find smt to have less rng.

i guess im used to spamming homonculus and walls.


but yeah. eliwood getting 1 shotted by the boss was hilarious.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 28, 2015, 11:36:15 pm
I personally like the rng-based stat increases. Most rpgs tend to have something like that. Also, I've had times in Shin Megami Tensei where a battle starts, the enemy goes first, gets a lucky critical, uses the right spell, and wipes out my entire full-health team before I even get to act. I'm talking about random mobs of enemies, not bosses. Fire Emblem at least gives you a chance to screw yourself over.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Zkurosu on March 28, 2015, 11:45:22 pm
I personally like the rng-based stat increases. Most rpgs tend to have something like that. Also, I've had times in Shin Megami Tensei where a battle starts, the enemy goes first, gets a lucky critical, uses the right spell, and wipes out my entire full-health team before I even get to act. I'm talking about random mobs of enemies, not bosses. Fire Emblem at least gives you a chance to screw yourself over.

Exactly why I liked SMT though, it really makes you have to be more aware and try and get preemptive strikes, also fusion was very fun.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 29, 2015, 12:06:32 am
yeah in SMT series you have to always have high speed character that can debuff enemy speed to gain head start.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 01, 2015, 10:58:49 pm
New developments. SMTxFE lives. When the trailer first started, and I saw the Atlus logo, I hoped this was what it was. Then it started, and I had no idea, though I was reminded of Persona. Then it got a bit into it, and I was still reminded of Persona. And then crazy stuff started happening and I had no idea what it was at all. And then it was Fire Emblem. This isn't even remotely what I was expecting from this title, and yet my interest has been renewed and I really want to play it. Stupid sexy Atlus.

For the even bigger news, new Fire Emblem IF trailer. Looks like the game is everything I wanted, and more. Taking on an alternate story approach, like Sacred Stones, yet far more meaningful, apparently. On the one hand, my desire to recruit everyone every playthrough is screaming in rage, but on the other hand I'm incredibly excited.

Spoiler
April fools.















































I'm joking, here're the trailers.

SMTxFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA)

FEIF (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94CCxVMltQY)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 01, 2015, 11:24:31 pm
When I saw the Atlus logo I too expected the SMTxFire Emblem and it took me a while to figure out it was effectively that, until after looking at the "Personas" , that did resemble some FE units (specially  the Lucina/Marth  one),  plus  the random Tiki appearances.  I only know that I want it, and I want it now!!

And about Fire Emblem If...the trailer it totally blew my expectations. 2 stories? Different character casts? HELL YES!!! But this begs the question: are you going to have to wipe out the half of the cast you don't pick? Will siding with the baka-gaijins imply being evil (they have all the dark knights and sorcerers..)? Will you have to choose between meido and miko imouto by killing the one you disregard? (<- That would be just cruel)

What I really love is the fact that the stories seem to be quite different , and that the one siding with Nohr seems like it's going to be more complex not only in difficulty but also in themes and possibly character relations?

Only bad thing: release in 2016. First you take Zelda away, now you take FE from 2015? Nintendo loves to make us suffer the hype.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 02, 2015, 12:10:28 am
still can't tell apart from rumors and fact,

but my sides worries are...

personal crap:
I bougnt ps4 for persona 5 and 3ds for Fire Emblem IF.
Now I need Wii U for the SMTxFE.
MONEYYYYYYYYYY

IF:
Peace lovin asian vs eveil european trope
game wise i'm lovin it but I fear that story won't be too good, they have done good enough job on most stories but them advertising an story... makes me feel like it will be a jinx. Not to mention most attempts of multiple viewpoints were horribly executed. Although from a personal experience I never really disliked cheesy heroics so I am sure that I will enjoy the game even if the world hates it. but Wii series is ship. SHEEEEEIIIIIT. cool characters tho. but SHEEEEIIIIT
also difficulty based on sides you choose, even if it will change through choices sounds bit interesting.. hector > eliwood I wonder if I will play multiple times like Blazing Sword (3 times for each story) or just beat all and be done with it like Radiant Dawn. still salty that I missed my chance to sell it for 40 dollars at gamestop
also enemy using double. yfw enemy cavalier guards your attack on that myrmidon-tan and next turn he crits your husbundo
so the rumor I heard is that they will sell Fire Emblem Black and White Nohr and Japan ... or that asian country's name version, where you can unlock other side through DLC and there will be DLC story for 3rd story that combines them. Someone explain to me how this works cuz I did not play pokemon. How do you split a game in two?
I still mistaken the country's name to be Noir. THUNDER AND BLOOD!   blackheart ftw

Super Smash:
ATLUS JOINS PLZ RIGHT?
tales series won't be bad either...

SMT x FE:
idols. more music means more fun!
COMP. aww they really meant it by SMT.
all the SMT crews. No Persona D:
enemy. They... reminds me more of Persona.
Fire emblem. WOOOOOOT
tho I got a feeling that SMT characters will use COMP to 'summon' Fire Emblem characters for fight or something.
WII U  <-  FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
underwears on main character on NINTENDO

persona 5:
worth 400 dollars for ps4.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 02, 2015, 08:34:39 am
SMTxFE is certainly being unique, and I love it! I mean, I knew Atlus would do something different, but even so the trailer managed to surprise me. they are really going for something completely new more than merging the 2 franchises. My main doubt now is basically demon summoning: we see a COMP, but the appearance of 2 FE charas is different from normal, which makes me think they may be going for a Persona twist in that one of the characters of the party acquires the power of a legendary hero more than simply summoning them. That and that is more Personish than SMT, maybe they should change the tittle to avoid misunderstandings? (a lot of people has been confused by this too)

On the new FE, it looks great, but I'm a little sceptic. On one hand, it's a new idea, on the other, they are still abusing the "obvious baddie", "obviously evil dark magic", obviously evil femme fatale with dark magic and the Japanese bias may be a little offensive (in my case I love it, I'm going to be a dark emperor after killing adoptive daddy and rule through the power of love and super-powerful dark magic). The fact that they also still using the super-old "only 2 opposed kingdoms exist" also makes me fear that the setting will be underdeveloped, it has been used a lot of times in japanese manga/anime/etc, and the only time I have seen it well executed is in Legend of the Galactic Heroes (that only fits the stereotype for half of the series, but that's what makes it great). On the other hand, they seem to have put effort into the characters, and the thought of the choosing between countries being reduced to an Imouto war is very amusing. It has been said that there will be 2 games, one for each country, in Japan (so it would be like Pokemon, with 2 editions). While we don't know if it it will also be like that in America and PAL territories, it's a little of a bad move if it's really truth, but they may be trying to go for a really good commercial success.


Also Akio, the 2 FEs on the GameCube and Wii were on the same level as Awakening, your taste is shieeeeeet.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on April 02, 2015, 09:07:55 am
I was actually really happy when I found out that SMTxFE wasn't going to be a straightout crossover game, as the old teaser suggested. I would love to see characters from across both franchises taking the stage as secondary or even cameo characters, but IMO it's just better if crossover games have OG characters and stories of their own to stand on.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 02, 2015, 05:57:24 pm

On the new FE, it looks great, but I'm a little sceptic. On one hand, it's a new idea, on the other, they are still abusing the "obvious baddie", "obviously evil dark magic", obviously evil femme fatale with dark magic and the Japanese bias may be a little offensive (in my case I love it, I'm going to be a dark emperor after killing adoptive daddy and rule through the power of love and super-powerful dark magic).


I'm all for being "evil" as well, specially as it seems the story is going to be a bit different from the classic FE on that side. And damm, I do love japanese traditional armor and stuff... but dark magic and the ornamented dark knight western armors are just a step above.




 It has been said that there will be 2 games, one for each country, in Japan (so it would be like Pokemon, with 2 editions). While we don't know if it it will also be like that in America and PAL territories, it's a little of a bad move if it's really truth, but they may be trying to go for a really good commercial success.


Rumors are they will either fit all in one game or allow you to dlc the other part from the one version. I hope they don't go for the pokemon approach: yes, I know each story is going to be as long as Awakening or a standard FE game, but this franchise isn't so popular in the west (compared to other nintendo franchises) , and that might just play against it.

There are also rumors that there will be a third story arch/or path at a later time only obtainable by DLC





 On the other hand, they seem to have put effort into the characters, and the thought of the choosing between countries being reduced to an Imouto war is very amusing.


Hey, it's hard to go all Nosferatu/Killing Edge on a priest-style little girl that calls you Onii-chan or Nee-sama, who cannot fight back. Butthen again... if they level up and turn into OP dark sorcerers, they might be a problem harder to deal with later...

Plus, it's a twintails+meido vs miko+short hair type of conflict. Whatever wins, we all lose.

On another note: anybody noticed that Kamui, despite being a member of a royal family and raised as member of royalty by the adoptive family...has no money to buy a pair of shoes?

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/1L5bBXD.png)

PS: anybody else noted that the dark-soceress/femme fatale/Aversa2.0-now-with-western-looks has a a tiara that makes it see as if she had cat ears?

Spoiler
(http://i.ytimg.com/vi/TyeGUhnuSqU/0.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 02, 2015, 10:01:07 pm
the whole game is 4gb. you just need to pay to unlock the data.

it should be as they advertise, having 2 to 3 times the volume of awakening, since it is now 4gb not 2.

however if most of the missions are simply 'different boss same map same objective' (like hector side of story etc) then the value will drop quickly.

personally since they aren't doing so hot, this is better approach since player can first enter with 40 dollars, and then add 20 for other side and 20 more for epilogue. I'm getting collector edition so money isn't the issue anymore. But one thing true is that fire emblem series focus mainly on the core fandom, all of their past effort to get new players in tends to not work out. (mid game save, easier difficulty etc)


also I am sure that she is a draco knight since she uses axe.
big breasts does not automatically mean hex.
in the end I will have end game party all class changed to paladin so does not matter.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 02, 2015, 10:04:19 pm
If one looks at the image on the main site, that woman wields an axe, and is in the same location as the Pegasus Knight from the other army, who is weilding a lance. I would say she's likely a dragon rider of one kind or another, like Akio says, though someone that rides a dragon and uses dark magic? That'd be freakin' sweet.

Also, twintail loli sister is best sister.

I might be side Nohr.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 02, 2015, 10:43:07 pm
the package illustrations have a maid and jagan added on each side.


bushido jagan is younger.

also

(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1428007670894.png)

confirmed draco/dragon knight.

and they are also introducing a male riding pegasus after all these years.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 03, 2015, 02:04:01 am

and they are also introducing a male riding pegasus after all these years.

Wanna bet that guy will look similar to Libra and/or Lucius ?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 03, 2015, 06:03:16 pm

and they are also introducing a male riding pegasus after all these years.

Wanna bet that guy will look similar to Libra and/or Lucius ?

Yep, he's even called Tsubaki (a common japanese female name) for more lulz


And yeah, I think we can do the next classification:
big bro: loyal "knight" vs honourable "sword-master"
little sis: spunky twintail "onii-chan" vs proper short-hair "nii-sama"
parents: greedy and corrupt father vs Good and peaceful mother (ie: Gharnef vs Emmeryn)
female friend/love interest/whatever they are: "Big" and adult wyvern Ryder vs "small" athletic pegasus Ryder (*cough*Tharja vs Coderlia*cough*)
bro/love interest/whatever they are: Dashing gloomy blond dark mage vs beautiful calm white-hair archer.

And we also have a maid vs maid in the (Japanese) covers?


EDIT: Serenes Forest offers an excellent analysis of the trailer  (http://serenesforest.net/fire-emblem-if/april-analysis/)for those who want to look at it more deeply.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 03, 2015, 06:35:14 pm
I wanna see if I can parody this with certain series.


kuroko: onee-sama!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on April 04, 2015, 04:09:02 am
On another note: anybody noticed that Kamui, despite being a member of a royal family and raised as member of royalty by the adoptive family...has no money to buy a pair of shoes?
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/1L5bBXD.png)
Dat female Kamui is such a qt3.14   :3


Spoiler
"Onii-chan!"
(http://i.imgur.com/buk86nZ.jpg)
I really like the twintails-meido-thing-imouto (Lissa-Maribelle fusion).
But the miko imouto is kawaii, too!
I usually would choose twintails over anything else... I feel so conflicted right now.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 04, 2015, 06:50:17 am
Male Pegasus Knight that looks like a girl? I shall create a female Barbarian that looks like a boy, and they shall be married.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 04, 2015, 05:14:33 pm
Hmm, just noticed one thing looking at Kamui's official art. To more precise, when looking at female Kamui's feet. At her right foot to be precise:

Spoiler
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/7/72/Avatar_FE14_Female.png/revision/latest?cb=20150401234945)
Is that a mistake or is it Official and plot relevant?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 04, 2015, 05:24:19 pm
It's their reason behind not letting her change into the Dancer class. She has two left feet!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 05, 2015, 02:21:35 am
Hmm, just noticed one thing looking at Kamui's official art. To more precise, when looking at female Kamui's feet. At her right foot to be precise:

Spoiler
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/7/72/Avatar_FE14_Female.png/revision/latest?cb=20150401234945)
Is that a mistake or is it Official and plot relevant?


Probably a shameful mistake. I'm actually quite mystified that any Japanese fan hasn't made any big deal with this and forced half of the artistic team to resign. They tend to be quite touchy and very good at analysing down to every pixel.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 04, 2015, 06:29:05 pm
Hmm, just noticed one thing looking at Kamui's official art. To more precise, when looking at female Kamui's feet. At her right foot to be precise:

Spoiler
(http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/7/72/Avatar_FE14_Female.png/revision/latest?cb=20150401234945)
Is that a mistake or is it Official and plot relevant?


Probably a shameful mistake. I'm actually quite mystified that any Japanese fan hasn't made any big deal with this and forced half of the artistic team to resign. They tend to be quite touchy and very good at analysing down to every pixel.

Commit Sudoku
Spoiler
(http://new1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Pretty+sure+you+mean+that+they+d+rather+commit+sudoku+_6872aafdcd46cac7969ae6f8e7ad597f.png)

But i also think it's a mistake, the problem is I haven't found any more official artwork where you can see Female Kamui's feet.

It's their reason behind not letting her change into the Dancer class. She has two left feet!

Female Robin could have been a dancer then... yet she couldn't . Nor could adorable daughteru Morgan F.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 04, 2015, 10:35:56 pm
I think that people are so happy the characters actually HAVE feet now, they're willing to let it go when they're not quite the right ones.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Zkurosu on April 05, 2015, 03:03:57 am
New developments. SMTxFE lives. When the trailer first started, and I saw the Atlus logo, I hoped this was what it was. Then it started, and I had no idea, though I was reminded of Persona. Then it got a bit into it, and I was still reminded of Persona. And then crazy stuff started happening and I had no idea what it was at all. And then it was Fire Emblem. This isn't even remotely what I was expecting from this title, and yet my interest has been renewed and I really want to play it. Stupid sexy Atlus.

For the even bigger news, new Fire Emblem IF trailer. Looks like the game is everything I wanted, and more. Taking on an alternate story approach, like Sacred Stones, yet far more meaningful, apparently. On the one hand, my desire to recruit everyone every playthrough is screaming in rage, but on the other hand I'm incredibly excited.

Spoiler
April fools.

Wait wait wait there are two FE-esque games or is IF the same one as SMTxFE?













































I'm joking, here're the trailers.

SMTxFE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fS24IxelBA)

FEIF (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94CCxVMltQY)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 05, 2015, 07:09:43 am
I think this all is already told in the Serenes Forest analysis, but it has been confirmed that what they referred as "Nohr path being more challenging" is that we won't be let to train freely, like in Awakening and Sacred Stones (and Gaiden), something you can do on the Hoshido path. Overall I'm getting a very FE7 in the Nohr path, what with they trying something different with the story and giving you limited experience and money (Hoshido is basically now a pseudo Sacred Stones to me)

It also seems like weapon durability will be gone, which is something that was already done in gaiden, but in that game there was no possibility to exchange objects between characters there, so I'm going to have to ask how they plan to handle the whole "legendary weapons" and everything else. I'm a little sad in that always kinda liked weapon durability, even if I preferred the FE4 version (every weapon has 50 uses and you can repair them) that was more forgiving.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 05, 2015, 10:26:05 am
I think this all is already told in the Serenes Forest analysis, but it has been confirmed that what they referred as "Nohr path being more challenging" is that we won't be let to train freely, like in Awakening and Sacred Stones (and Gaiden), something you can do on the Hoshido path. Overall I'm getting a very FE7 in the Nohr path, what with they trying something different with the story and giving you limited experience and money (Hoshido is basically now a pseudo Sacred Stones to me)

It also seems like weapon durability will be gone, which is something that was already done in gaiden, but in that game there was no possibility to exchange objects between characters there, so I'm going to have to ask how they plan to handle the whole "legendary weapons" and everything else. I'm a little sad in that always kinda liked weapon durability, even if I preferred the FE4 version (every weapon has 50 uses and you can repair them) that was more forgiving.

the enemies had green weps while player had red/green weps so i think they just took out the numbers, since you don't know when your weapon breaks, just know how dull it got.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 05, 2015, 11:45:35 am
the enemies had green weps while player had red/green weps so i think they just took out the numbers, since you don't know when your weapon breaks, just know how dull it got.
True.

Maybe they're doing it with some kind of a stat check, like armshrift? Every hits has a small percent of lowering the weapons quality until it breaks?

That gives lots of possibilities (weapon quality lowering conform it's state worsens, possibility of repairing your weapon while it's still not broken which would bring back repairing like FE4 and make me very happy, etc) but it may be difficult to balance, so it's something interesting to look forward to.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 05, 2015, 04:05:17 pm
Nohr just keeps sounding better and better, I swear. I thought this would be a far more difficult decision. Still going to get both versions eventually of course.

I'm also interested in the apparent ability to cause things to happen on the map, such as when the avatar caused a stone path to appear. It could just be an extension of older systems, but they could do a lot of interesting things with something like that. Imagine dropping a stone platform on a group of enemies, and damaging all of them, or something.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 05, 2015, 05:18:21 pm
Nohr just keeps sounding better and better, I swear. I thought this would be a far more difficult decision. Still going to get both versions eventually of course.

I'm also interested in the apparent ability to cause things to happen on the map, such as when the avatar caused a stone path to appear. It could just be an extension of older systems, but they could do a lot of interesting things with something like that. Imagine dropping a stone platform on a group of enemies, and damaging all of them, or something.

Eh, to be honest it seems more like an extension of old tricks, like hidden bridges or so in earlier Fire emblems (you had to put the thief in a specific grid, and he would "repair" the bridge). It would be cool if it was bigger like you said, but I don't have much faith in them on how to make fun stages after Awakening.

And on the decision, it's also being surprisingly easy on my part. I mean, while I prefer some of the Hoshidoan characters, the kingdom in it it seems just so boring...And they have Emmeryn 2.0 leading them, which that alone makes me want to dessert The fact that they are specifically trying something new with Nohr also makes it more alluring, specially after Awakening's story being so standard.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 05, 2015, 05:40:58 pm
ill miss them
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 05, 2015, 09:28:36 pm
ill miss them

So will I, some of the characters, such as Gaius, Cordellia, Severa, Inigo, Lucina or Henry were great IMHO, and some supports/scenes were great:funny or tear jerking, but great nevertheless.

Spoiler
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/baed32eca744eebb4010a9530fac7d08/tumblr_mi0dcjSFFu1rluqnuo1_500.jpg)

Spoiler
(http://static.zerochan.net/Fire.Emblem%3A.Kakusei.full.1592247.jpg)

But it looks it will be the Nohr path for me. It simply seems more interesting, a revolution from within, maybe even more morally dark . (and I just love dark knights and wyvern riders.

And evil-conquistador (kinda strange if it's supposed to be Venice/Rome/Italy) army is cool.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on April 06, 2015, 01:40:14 pm
Geeze guys. My feels are already at their limit listening to the song in the trailer. Putting up images of awakening characters fully awakened my iron heart and (insert new games name pun) made me moe.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 06, 2015, 08:22:12 pm
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1428348322461.webm

is brawl much better topic then?


>whynohector
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 07, 2015, 09:20:03 am
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1428348322461.webm

is brawl much better topic then?


>whynohector

Good luck with that, people are voting for stupid stuff like the bear animatron from 5 nights a Freddies over Banjo, Snake, Shovelknight and any other Fire Emblem character (GIVE US A PEGASUS KNIGHT!!!)

Now , I bring you 2 sources of FE Awakening entertainment :

The first one is a series of 4komas, great stuff, but you may lose and hour of your life there before you notice. (the guy at serenesforest.com was very nice to translate and upload them, and I'd also like to thank Kana the Boss for sharing the link with me)

Spoiler
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=51761

The second is just a 6 sec vid from shadowofchaos  mixing up phrases the voice actors from the japanese version do in an anime

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAGxJOm6Gr8

Updated: April 08, 2015, 12:17:31 am
A new video analysis by Gamexplain. It covers pretty much what they already did in Serene's forest but there's some new stuff.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2e0M7BePtQ
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 08, 2015, 04:52:30 am
radiant dawn never fails to surprise me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on April 09, 2015, 02:04:53 am
Having just returned from Japan there was quite a bit of stir about the new crossover game about SMTxFE.  Although most of it was negative, the Japanese are always more inclined to be pessimistic before actually seeing the game itself.

Didn't hear anything about the new FE yet.  Are both for the n3DS only? Would hate to have to pick up yet another 3DS.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 09, 2015, 02:29:40 am
Lord Gorchnik, it seems a new 3ds will not be required, but it remains unknown if in the west the new Fire Emblem if will be sold separately as it will be in Japan.

Meanwhile, your highness may find this US Nintendo Direct trailer analysis useful:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2e0M7BePtQ



Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Megillot on April 08, 2015, 06:42:06 pm
Having just returned from Japan there was quite a bit of stir about the new crossover game about SMTxFE.  Although most of it was negative, the Japanese are always more inclined to be pessimistic before actually seeing the game itself.

From what I saw of SMTxFE (trailer, that is) they have every right to be pessimistic.
I cannot see neither SMT nor FE in there so far. Maybe a little of Persona with silly costumes. Also, it's not a tactical TBS game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 09, 2015, 03:27:49 am
From what I saw of SMTxFE (trailer, that is) they have every right to be pessimistic.
I cannot see neither SMT nor FE in there so far. Maybe a little of Persona with silly costumes. Also, it's not a tactical TBS game.

To be truthful, the game has stopped being called SMTxFE in Japan. The new name points to it being specifically a spin-off of SMT related with Fire Emblem (and there have been a fair lot of references of FE in it, though all very "personafied"). The director is that of both devil Survivors, and I enjoyed the games so I remain cautiously optimistic (it won't be what people expected it to be though, that's for sure).


Also, GameXplain messed on FE videos more than once, so I wouldn't put their word as gospel.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 08, 2015, 10:12:33 pm
幻影異聞録#FE

idk english name but in korea it is now also called 'hwanyung eemoonrok'
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 16, 2015, 05:35:08 pm
anyone tried custom/fan made FE game?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 17, 2015, 06:55:55 am
I played one, once. It was a sort of bridge between 7 and 6, and was divided into episodic content. I don't think it was complete when I played it, either.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 30, 2015, 04:49:48 pm
Another awesome new thing.

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/01.jpg)

Yes, Fire Emblem if faceplate for the New 3DS. Sure, the New 3DS hasn't actually been released where I live but at least it looks awesome.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 30, 2015, 04:58:58 pm
shit i bought newds too early. take my 500 anyway!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 30, 2015, 09:55:07 pm
Another awesome new thing.

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/01.jpg)

Yes, Fire Emblem if faceplate for the New 3DS. Sure, the New 3DS hasn't actually been released where I live but at least it looks awesome.

Aha, the "Fire Emblem" title it's actually in the lower face, the same as Nohr and where you put the game card, thus clearly indicating that Nohr it's irrefutably the canon path and Hoshido is only the path for bitter weaboos (and the flat-chest lovers)! Nevermind that the male MC it's in their cover, and that the face more seen by everyone is the upper one...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on April 30, 2015, 10:44:37 pm
Hoshido is only the path for bitter weaboos (and the flat-chest lovers)!
Ahem. Would you mind explaining such implications? Not all lovers of flatness must blindly choose the side that contains the least amount of breast! Such thinking is what has kept our people from advancing for centuries. As a proud lolicon, as well as a proud Nohr warrior, I can firmly state that such ideas hold no water in this age!

#NohrIsCanon

Though really, the Nohr sister's even flatter than the Hosido one, so I win either way.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on April 30, 2015, 11:44:36 pm
I'll play both routes anyway, but Nohr is my favorite so far. It looks badass and more complex.
Besides, that "traditional, friendly and peace-loving kingdom" is boring and cliche.

Hoshido is only the path for bitter weaboos (and the flat-chest lovers)!
Ahem. Would you mind explaining such implications? Not all lovers of flatness must blindly choose the side that contains the least amount of breast! Such thinking is what has kept our people from advancing for centuries. As a proud lolicon, as well as a proud Nohr warrior, I can firmly state that such ideas hold no water in this age!

#NohrIsCanon

Though really, the Nohr sister's even flatter than the Hosido one, so I win either way.

You have God-Tier taste, my good sir.

(http://i.imgur.com/Rn04fqO.jpg)

(It's not like I mind havind a busty onee-san in Nohr. I have no prejudices about bust size. :3 )

Who am I kidding. Flat chest is master race.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 01, 2015, 09:12:07 am
Ahem. Would you mind explaining such implications? Not all lovers of flatness must blindly choose the side that contains the least amount of breast! Such thinking is what has kept our people from advancing for centuries. As a proud lolicon, as well as a proud Nohr warrior, I can firmly state that such ideas hold no water in this age!

#NohrIsCanon

You truly are a progressive thinker, Elvis. I didn't expect you to go so far, but it's certain that such thinking is the true one. I also have walked on the path of the flat chest despite my preference being on the other side. And I would do it again, and even dare to say that to artificially modify her appearance to fit your preferences would be an insult an heresy towards any waifu!

Though really, the Nohr sister's even flatter than the Hosido one, so I win either way.
I actually believe her clothes hide most of it. While she is clearly not a  big-boobs loli, I think she on the same level that our other imouto

Updated: May 01, 2015, 06:00:28 pm
As further information, there's this blog post here  (http://shadowofchaos725.tumblr.com/post/117695846270/fire-emblem-if-developer-interview) that translates the key points of a developers interview in Japan.

And yeah, from what it seems, every time I hear of new things it becomes more #NohrMasterRace
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on May 01, 2015, 01:52:50 pm
As further information, there's this blog post here  (http://shadowofchaos725.tumblr.com/post/117695846270/fire-emblem-if-developer-interview) that translates the key points of a developers interview in Japan.

And yeah, from what it seems, every time I hear of new things it becomes more #NohrMasterRace

Quote
Nohr has more complex maps. Besides the usual “defeat all of the enemies”/“defeat the general” maps, there will also be suppression, breakthroughs, defending bases, turn restrictions, amongst others. There are lots of map gimmicks. (We’ve already seen dragon’s vein.)

Awesome! I'm sold.

Nohr FTW!!
(http://i.imgur.com/8ePEICP.gif)

Flat chest is still superior, but I'm ok with this.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 01, 2015, 03:48:29 pm
#NohrMasterRace, #HoshidoPeasants!

Now we only have to wait.... or learn japanese. 

I hope the Fire Emblem If covers for the New 3Ds do arrive to Europe and NA ...they look too good not to get them...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 02, 2015, 12:58:15 am
hopefully mass riot happening thx to too little amount of limited edition sold won't be an issue here.

Updated: May 02, 2015, 04:34:30 pm
seems fun... 




card game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on May 03, 2015, 02:50:37 am
card game.
Is it just me, or does it almost look like Sakura's using a bow? I'm sure it's just a weird looking staff, but wouldn't that be interesting? Imagine magical bows. Or even healing bows.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 02, 2015, 08:41:57 pm
card game.
Is it just me, or does it almost look like Sakura's using a bow? I'm sure it's just a weird looking staff, but wouldn't that be interesting? Imagine magical bows. Or even healing bows.

since japando is japan theme, like log horizon, mikp/shrine maiden use bow i think. still healer class tho.  my sister is dark knight :D

Updated: May 02, 2015, 08:44:43 pm
paladin (armored horse, sword.)
samurai(sword master with hero armor but no shield, sword is one sided)
draco
falcon
dark knight/flier
miko/warrior/hero (buckler and bow)


sister warrior pffddd
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 03, 2015, 05:02:31 am
She's clearly using a bow, I mean, she even has a quiver. It's probable that she is one of the new Japan-based classes. Probably instead of war cleric Hoshido will have a "miko" class using both staff and bow.

... Of course there's always the possibility of that simply being an artistic license and no such thing will ever appear in the game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on May 03, 2015, 05:34:44 am
Wow, if that happens that actually gives me a good reason to play Hoshido. Eventually, I mean. Nohr for life regardless. While it won't be the most overpowered combination, it's certainly interesting.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on May 04, 2015, 06:30:42 am
I require a brief overview of what is going on with Fire Emblem, it's plot and waifus!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 04, 2015, 02:46:37 pm
game sold in 2 versions, europe waifu or japan waifu.

and also dlc to buy the 3rd version.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on May 04, 2015, 07:48:52 am
Hmm... there is already euro release?
According to wiki it is planned for 2016
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 05, 2015, 01:58:22 am
Hmm... there is already euro release?
According to wiki it is planned for 2016

meant game factions.

hoshitdo is pretty much japan,

while nothr is traditional europe themed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on May 04, 2015, 08:10:59 pm
Oh so...

Well i will go with her... It's my destiny  ::)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/5wioIGx.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 05, 2015, 04:27:43 am
Oh so...

Well i will go with her... It's my destiny  ::)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/5wioIGx.png)

Nobody can resist her pair of... horns. Yeah, horns as a hair decoration, who would have thought that?!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on May 04, 2015, 08:24:03 pm
It is power of dark side!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 05, 2015, 05:07:00 am
It is power of dark side!

ur avy  ;D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 05, 2015, 05:41:49 am
Oh so...

Well i will go with her... It's my destiny  ::)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/5wioIGx.png)

But she's not your adoptive imouto, she seems to be your adoptive nee-sama.  I thought you were a faithful defender of the imouto route...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on May 04, 2015, 11:13:48 pm
Gorchnik is scum of the Earth and will be buying all 3 versions because it's Fire Emblem.  Somewhere in my storage is my original Japanese Genealogy of the Holy War box.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 05, 2015, 12:24:17 pm
Gorchnik is scum of the Earth and will be buying all 3 versions because it's Fire Emblem.  Somewhere in my storage is my original Japanese Genealogy of the Holy War box.

Don't worry my Lord. I probably would be too, in fact, I'm thinking of delaying buying a New 3DS only to wait if they come with a pack like they did in Awakening. If not, then I hope there's some kind of collector edition like in Japan.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 05, 2015, 12:28:13 pm
Gorchnik is scum of the Earth and will be buying all 3 versions because it's Fire Emblem.  Somewhere in my storage is my original Japanese Genealogy of the Holy War box.

Don't worry my Lord. I probably would be too, in fact, I'm thinking of delaying buying a New 3DS only to wait if they come with a pack like they did in Awakening. If not, then I hope there's some kind of collector edition like in Japan.


Same here, why only buy one if I can get all three?
Let's hope they make somekind of  a collector pack for Europe and NA...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on May 05, 2015, 04:59:11 am
Of course, were that cartridge with all three versions released in America, I would also be in line to purchase it. Do not look down on thyself, my enemy, for your actions please our side as well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 05, 2015, 01:35:14 pm
do remember that in japan, it sold out in 30 sec :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 05, 2015, 01:58:51 pm
do remember that in japan, it sold out in 30 sec :D


But we're in the west, with a bit of luck, some other game for the baka gaijins will be released that day and the attention will be drawn away from the FE collector editions.

If that's not the case, we'll just have to fight for it and the worthiest amongst us shall obtain them!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on May 05, 2015, 05:08:10 pm
Oh so...

Well i will go with her... It's my destiny  ::)

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/5wioIGx.png)

But she's not your adoptive imouto, she seems to be your adoptive nee-sama.  I thought you were a faithful defender of the imouto route...

I love both cute imouto and gorgeous nee-sama  8)

I hope euro version will good enough... Hate nintendo for region locks
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on May 06, 2015, 08:55:14 pm
So, I just noticed this thread yesterday, and only got around to reading it today (class seems the easiest place for me to get anything written/read), but now that I'm mostly caught up on what's been going on (aside from not having watched any of the videos, as audio is a no-no while in class), I've got to say a few things. First, I'm a bit lacking on FE experience, having only played FE7/Fire Emblem, and Awakening, and Awakening is my favorite out of the two. Secondly, Nohr masterrace. And to end my opening statement, I'll probably get both (all three?) versions of the new game, likely delaying getting a n3DS for a bundle if I can.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on May 20, 2015, 10:44:17 pm
Interesting "Fire Emblem: If" info and pictures I got from a dA group: http://www.deviantart.com/journal/More-New-Stuff-Updated-533005387

Spoiler
(http://serenesforest.net/wp-content/gallery/famitsu-14th-may/fami1405-5.jpg)
Spoiler
(http://serenesforest.net/wp-content/gallery/famitsu-14th-may/fami1405-6.jpg)
Spoiler
(http://serenesforest.net/wp-content/gallery/face-plate-bundle/feif_aqua.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 22, 2015, 06:48:10 pm
Translation of some of the main new reveals of 21st of May's Famitsu leak.

http://serenesforest.net/category/pre-release-news/fire-emblem-if/

Biggest news?

-Aqua is the princess of Nohr under custody of Hoshido
-Weapon triangle revamped
-Expanding on the constitution mechanic: Using more powerful weapons will have drawbacks in defense, support defense/double attacks, etc
-The dual attack/block system is getting some serious changes to balance it
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on May 22, 2015, 06:54:30 pm
lets see how i read them...
hoshitdo is not good as they seem.
and Nohrmal is not smart as they seem.

now you cant solo kill everything if enemy has a counter weapon.

now knights won't be ignored, and days of kick ass cavalry is going to revive.

now it wont be no damage, but more consequence to a point you would wish they stop doing duals.
(already done if dual kills enemy letting more enemy attack your character, end up death.)



This sounds very fun! can't wait!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 01, 2015, 05:48:55 am
https://youtu.be/6oO7b-oWl2g

its time.

bit lazy to dl the pic so it will be 4ch link. get em fast.

https://kantopia.wordpress.com/2015/05/31/fire-emblem-if-website-character-profile-translations-ongoing/
character stuff
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1433128579229.jpg)
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1433135932362.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1433135995423.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1433136615139.gif)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 01, 2015, 06:32:21 am
Last gif... that was unexpected  :P

Wanna this game already but it will be here only at 2016  :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 01, 2015, 07:41:19 am
Well, I have to say I wasn't expecting that. All the last news were actually fairly exciting; while I'm a little sad weapon durability is gone and we haven't recovered weight, special (detrimental) effects attached to each weapon, expanded weapon triangle, more diversity of weapons depending on the style and even classes exclusive to a country, all was looking very good. The remodelled pair Up in fact seems a lot better, as it will now activate with 100% probability if you fulfil the conditions, which is something needed if the enemy can pair Up; it will also stop you abusing it everywhere. Weapons that reduce stats will put a lot more chaos on the battlefield, but it's also kinda needed: you'll no longer be able to leave a lonely superunit and let the enemy get slaughtered, you'll have to calculate very move if you don't want you swordmaster (trueblade in If) to die after having his speed reduced by 5.

The My castle things seems like it will be Hoshido only, the equivalent of a traversable map (there will probably be no "map", but you'll be able to use your castle to use the arena, buy and sell, etc). It's a little too Animal Crossing for my style, but something like this is a very good way to expand on the base of Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn, and something that should've been added earlier sincerely. To be honest, I find the bath a little too much, but it's a good way to add a "free fanservice for those who want it!" and a reason for male players to chose a female unit, and viceversa for fangirls. They are probably dancing with something dangerous with the patting on other units: that can be considered either endearing or dangerously creepy, and the casual western audience that Awakening brought is fairly moody, so we'll see how that goes. To me it's fine, but it's dangerously similar to other waifu/fanservice games the Japanese market is filled with, and those move 40.000 copies at max, not around 250.000 like FE is supposed to (in the Japanese market).

In general, while I love a lot of the gameplay changes introduced, I feel they are focusing too much on simply catering to the casual audience, and not only that, but I think they may be confusing a little their market. Awakening "waifus and husbandos" let them tap a portion of the market they didn't have before, but a look at any list of sales will show you that this new part of the market it's only a minuscule portion of the 1.8 million that bough Awakening, no matter how loud they are. Just simply catering to that and cheapening the difficulty (adding here the Phoenix mode, or the WIMP mode, as I call it: Wuss Inexperienced Moronic Players Mode) will not bring those sales again. Luckily, these games have a lot more behind them, and the story seems genuinely interesting, but I worry if the developers are getting the wrong idea on the playerbase.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 01, 2015, 08:18:39 am
Agarest was fine with its waifus and baths and other things, so i'm sure FE will be fine too ::)

Casual trends though ain't unavoidable in current world. New gamers are mostly raised on casual games so you eventually need to follow trend otherwise you'll start to miss whining masses :)
Frankly i don't really like perma death in FE. It pains too much sometimes. I know that it is realistic(and it is good thing), but still...
 It annoys too much especially if you'll lose your waifu  ::)

And i always hate finite weapons... Find some unique weapon and be afraid to waste it  :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 01, 2015, 08:34:21 am
Agarest was fine with its waifus and baths and other things, so i'm sure FE will be fine too ::)

Casual trends though ain't unavoidable in current world. New gamers are mostly raised on casual games so you eventually need to follow trend otherwise you'll start to miss whining masses :)
Frankly i don't really like perma death in FE. It pains too much sometimes. I know that it is realistic(and it is good thing), but still...
 It annoys too much especially if you'll lose your waifu  ::)

And i always hate finite weapons... Find some unique weapon and be afraid to waste it  :(

Agarest also sells around 40.000 units at most. It's a niche game with niche sales. Fire emblem isn't exactly the same. And I don't mind casual mode (I prefer classic, but that's only my preference), but the Phoenix (AKA WIMP) mode is too much. If it was an special extra super-easy difficulty like Sunrider still, but a whole extra mode for someone who simply is unable to play the game is too much: for that simply make a VN mode.

And finite weapons were also something very FE. With classic mode we still retain permadeath, but here we have absolutely lost weapon uses, there's no way to restore it. I think it's fine to be a little angry (I personally always preferred the weapon uses on FE4, which wasn't as restrictive as newer FEs, but still retained that micromanaging of supplies).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 01, 2015, 08:49:31 am
Agarest also sells around 40.000 units at most. It's a niche game with niche sales. Fire emblem isn't exactly the same. And I don't mind casual mode (I prefer classic, but that's only my preference), but the Phoenix (AKA WIMP) mode is too much. If it was an special extra super-easy difficulty like Sunrider still, but a whole extra mode for someone who simply is unable to play the game is too much: for that simply make a VN mode.

And finite weapons were also something very FE. With classic mode we still retain permadeath, but here we have absolutely lost weapon uses, there's no way to restore it. I think it's fine to be a little angry (I personally always preferred the weapon uses on FE4, which wasn't as restrictive as newer FEs, but still retained that micromanaging of supplies).

I suppose agarest is not a great example... Only the third game was interesting in its gameplay.
Well extra mode is just like extra difficulty... Isn't much of difference at all. It's not like it will make your game experience worse.
Finite weapons would be fine if you could restock unique weapons, but well it always annoys to lose some great weapon and there ain't much to do about it(though you have skill based on luck to help with that in Awakening)

p.s. i always give preferences to cute girls(regardless real or game) so waifus are important to me ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 01, 2015, 08:58:22 am
Wow, that's some interesting news! I can't wait for If to be released!

(http://i.imgur.com/VqWTstC.png)

Severa, is that you?

Spoiler
Nooooo!!! What happened to her glorious twintails??! D:
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 01, 2015, 05:36:06 pm
Wow, that's some interesting news! I can't wait for If to be released!

(http://i.imgur.com/VqWTstC.png)

Severa, is that you?

Spoiler
Nooooo!!! What happened to her glorious twintails??! D:

She evolved from tsundere to athletic girl. Actually quite likely in the new timeline in which Cordelia can care for her instead of being busy fighting
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 01, 2015, 11:52:02 pm
Gorchnik wonders if the tag system will indeed be making a return? Your lord would prefer it does not but it's certainly not a deal breaker if it does.

Gorchnik also wishes they would include some sort of special feature/award for clearing Classic mode and not losing any units. Casual is fine for those who don't want to worry about it but the series has since long evolved from what originally made it charming in your lords eyes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 02, 2015, 12:20:02 am
Tag systeM?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 01, 2015, 04:19:17 pm
Agarest also sells around 40.000 units at most. It's a niche game with niche sales. Fire emblem isn't exactly the same. And I don't mind casual mode (I prefer classic, but that's only my preference), but the Phoenix (AKA WIMP) mode is too much. If it was an special extra super-easy difficulty like Sunrider still, but a whole extra mode for someone who simply is unable to play the game is too much: for that simply make a VN mode.

And finite weapons were also something very FE. With classic mode we still retain permadeath, but here we have absolutely lost weapon uses, there's no way to restore it. I think it's fine to be a little angry (I personally always preferred the weapon uses on FE4, which wasn't as restrictive as newer FEs, but still retained that micromanaging of supplies).

I suppose agarest is not a great example... Only the third game was interesting in its gameplay.

This. Agarest problem wasn't the generation system or fan service. It was that the combat system was...clunky, slow, and relied too much on combos. Repetitive as hell and had all the strange positioning issues for the units.

Darn, any turn based FF or other JRPGs from the PSP such as Legend of Heroes:Trails in the Sky beated the hell put of it.

Back to FE: I do like the build your castle feature, and I find the whole fan service an waifu-amie thing...interedting. They really want to stray us from the path of Nohr, don't they?

---------_------------

Update: Shadoeofchaos ha sposted a translation of the full video on his channel:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-IE2PAYh2U0
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 02, 2015, 06:16:49 am
Wait a tick...

Spoiler
Severa-chan!! Your twintails are intact! YES!
(http://i.imgur.com/Nw5Vwhy.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 01, 2015, 10:30:58 pm
Wait a tick...

Spoiler
Severa-chan!! Your twintails are intact! YES!
(http://i.imgur.com/Nw5Vwhy.jpg)

Severa doesn't need things like amiibo. Step aside Kamui and Aqua PEASANTS. SEVERA IS THE NEW MAIN CHARACTER For THE FIRE EMBLEM FRANCHISE.
ALL HAIL OUR TSUN OVERLADY!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 02, 2015, 12:49:57 am
new anime when

old animation... hehehe
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 02, 2015, 11:08:13 am
new anime when

old animation... hehehe

Ore no namae wa Owain, and I'm looking for a swordsman to become the new Hero king!
S2 never

Let's not lose faith! Some series took 20 years to get a second season. DIO remembers this!

Back to Fire Emblem :

Severa confirmed for smash, screw Roy, bring in the TSUN!!

(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ea/0f/15/ea0f15d533bf6ce1d266ca549fa7c12c.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 02, 2015, 05:54:59 pm
new anime when

old animation... hehehe

Ore no namae wa Owain, and I'm looking for a swordsman to become the new Hero king!
S2 never

No! He's actually Chrom! (He's also the bathhouse owner.)

(http://31.media.tumblr.com/f16db417f8a460f5342c4b2f35cb45e3/tumblr_inline_neo60kBCLp1rwns9s.jpg)

Chrom and Hidenori Tabata both have Tomokazu Sugita as their Japanese VA.

(http://33.media.tumblr.com/f602824d571a022d95670e5c33424bfb/tumblr_inline_neo63glasH1rwns9s.gif)

S2 never... Why live? ;_;

Back to Fire Emblem :

Severa confirmed for smash, screw Roy, bring in the TSUN!!

Severa? Confirmed? REALLY?!

Spoiler
(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/122/0/7/fe___literary_tharja_by_daedrid-d63vdoj.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 02, 2015, 04:11:40 pm
new anime when

old animation... hehehe

Ore no namae wa Owain, and I'm looking for a swordsman to become the new Hero king!
S2 never

No! He's actually Chrom! (He's also the bathhouse owner.)


Chrom and Hidenori Tabata both have Tomokazu Sugita as their Japanese VA.


Imagine what people in the west would think if they new Chrom had the same VA as Gintoki.
"Husbando level of Chrom increased by 100 points"

Back to Fire Emblem :

Severa confirmed for smash, screw Roy, bring in the TSUN!!

Severa? Confirmed? REALLY?!

Spoiler
(http://th03.deviantart.net/fs71/PRE/f/2013/122/0/7/fe___literary_tharja_by_daedrid-d63vdoj.jpg)

Nope...they prefer to add a silly clone of Marth again. Darn, Severa-sama is far better suited , she could have a spin attack like Link, but with her twintails having another hitbox.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 03, 2015, 03:47:36 am
Nope...they prefer to add a silly clone of Marth again.

(http://www.quickmeme.com/img/d3/d30abd9bd591a3ebd7cc5c6ea8b33aa14f81dc9bbe0f0ad468433aee969622f5.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 02, 2015, 08:39:28 pm
I'm sorry, but while Severa is quite cool(she's my daughteru), she is in the end just an optional character, that spends half her supports being indirectly tsundere with her mother and the other half being directly tsundere.

And while she is high up in the popularity polls, she still below most heavy hitters and specially Lucina, whose popularity is as high as Chrom but also has the advantage of not being a literal fusion of Marth and Ike with the brains of the second and the personality of the first.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 04, 2015, 03:36:49 am
So, a lot of new features lately. A lot of great things going on. And with all the awesome Hoshido characters I was... a bit tempted. And then I saw Nyx. So that's over.

Also, the My Castle feature's in both versions; though you don't gain any experience from fights in the Nohr Castle battles, and there're probably other differences.

Aside from that, I like pretty much everything. The face-petting, the hot springs, the castles, the unbreakable weapons, the new characters... though I'm neutral to Severa/Luna. One of my favorite children characters but I didn't like any of them all that much.

Did I mention how awesome Nyx is, yet? And the image of her blushing was the cutest thing. Too bad I can't use it as an avatar.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 04, 2015, 04:03:13 am
guys at /vg/ were talkin about how grunts illustrations changed and u can hire them for war etc.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 04, 2015, 05:47:32 am
Did I mention how awesome Nyx is, yet? And the image of her blushing was the cutest thing. Too bad I can't use it as an avatar.
Why to mention?
You should show the cutie instead of talking  ::)

I hope Aqua is going to be a faithful waifu like my goddess Mehisha  ::) Just not another damsel in distress i hope  >:(

Spoiler
(http://orig15.deviantart.net/6e47/f/2015/132/1/2/fire_emblem_if___aqua_fanmade_dark_coloration_by_melodycrystel-d8t3tjv.png)

Spoiler
(http://assets.rpgsite.net/images/images/000/032/581/original/FEi_Jan142015_01.jpg)

Spoiler
(http://41.media.tumblr.com/7399f52aae878c50f02834c2364d05a7/tumblr_inline_nnkga2nXiY1r40otq_1280.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 04, 2015, 07:22:55 am
guys at /vg/ were talkin about how grunts illustrations changed and u can hire them for war etc.

I think I saw some hints for that before, but it's also probably the old FE12/FE11 system of automatically recruiting generic units when you lost a lot of your normal ones.

Did I mention how awesome Nyx is, yet? And the image of her blushing was the cutest thing. Too bad I can't use it as an avatar.

... When it happened? I didn't saw it in the My Castle video, there has been a new one...?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 04, 2015, 02:20:48 pm
I think the generic units you're able to recruit were actually new versions of the Deadlords- translations seemed to indicate such. Could be wrong, though. And I'm also really hoping Aqua ends up being a badass. Spear Dancer already makes her pretty cool. Also hope there's enough characters that join you on both paths. I'd like to reward their loyalty by having a playthrough only using them.

Blushing Nyx. With a side of blushing Elise for funsies.
(http://i.imgur.com/J8mZuT1.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 05, 2015, 06:20:34 am
Interesting that the battles at the White castle give exp while the Black one doesn't. Gorchnik presumes that is just another feature to make the game harder.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 05, 2015, 12:46:32 am
Interesting that the battles at the White castle give exp while the Black one doesn't. Gorchnik presumes that is just another feature to make the game harder.

pretty much referring to awakening balancing I think. They said that japan will be easy mode for new players, while europu would be more fitting to classic fan's taste, and harder. (you can laugh at classic fans who sees existence of phoenix mode to be end of the world.) Awakening had a difficulty issue where if a player had DLC map bought, they can farm exp to end of the world. So pretty much all hardcore players had a rule that you may not play the DLC map as a requirement. (seen a dlc map players  set a rule that the only savefile you can make and use is end game save file, so what you earned in dlc map should not be existent when you challenge different dlc map.)




also its cuz harold and kumar is blessed by NPH, eatin sliders to level up.

Nohr must be burning their food since people don't eat or gain anything from theirs.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 05, 2015, 07:08:51 am
Interesting that the battles at the White castle give exp while the Black one doesn't. Gorchnik presumes that is just another feature to make the game harder.

I think that the fact is that White Kingdom won't have a traversable map, but you can gain exp from street pass battles, arena battles and some side quests (seems like monster extermination). Truthfully, at the beginning I thought my Castle was exclusive to them, but later images show that Nohr also has it.

One of my small fears is that they still haven't shown the world map. After Awakening's removal of the semi-introduction of each chapter in the map (as your character moved slowly towards that place), I fear If may simply decide to forget about world maps and such complicated things.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 07, 2015, 06:19:06 pm
I don't think this image was posted here already, so. Figure some of us might not have seen all the new characters and such that've been revealed so far. There're still more cast members to be announced later on, keep in mind.

(http://i.imgur.com/KB847Zl.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 09, 2015, 12:59:09 am
Hrmm. Gorchnik rather likes everyone so far. Definitely will probably be picking up both at this rate.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 09, 2015, 05:17:20 am
Hrmm. Gorchnik rather likes everyone so far. Definitely will probably be picking up both at this rate.
Really hoping that limited release comes out here, with all three versions on one cart. I'd absolutely love to have that. While I knew I'd play all the versions eventually, the desire to play them all as soon as possible continues to rise with every new bit of information. Good thing it's only six months to a year 'till release date. Maybe longer.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 10, 2015, 04:27:58 pm
New characters have appeared in Famitsu. At least 2 more tribute characters to FE:Awakeing children have appeared, with similar personalities and identical design, namely Inigo and Owain. THe third one seems like Noire's personality in the body of Cynthia.

http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/09/meet-fire-emblem-ifs-berserk-cavalier-girl-flirty-mercenary-and-cool-dark-mage/

Yay, Inigo and Severa confirmed!

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 11, 2015, 01:09:29 am
tat fluffyness.

my sides
heart sides.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 10, 2015, 07:47:27 pm
While I don't mind having "clones" of the child characters, it still seriously annoys me that they are doing that to fill the spaces, specially on Nohr. At least share them a bit...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 10, 2015, 08:05:06 pm
#NohrMasterRace #HoshidoPeasants

I guess they will end up being recruitable someway, spotspass or something.

I just realized something : if you choose Nohr... your Kamui is going to be fighting his/her mom?

*insert 16 year old rebellious girl persona *
"Kamui, I don't like those people you are hanging around with. Specially that girl with the skimpy armor. And that guy with the shiny blade looks like a delinquent. And let's not even start talking about that creepy blonde guy with the book : that weirdo is a psycho for sure. Why can't you hang along with decent people like your siblings?"
"OMG mom, they are my friends!!! I HATE YOU!!You are not my family anymore!!!"
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 10, 2015, 09:07:03 pm
#NohrMasterRace #HoshidoPeasants

I guess they will end up being recruitable someway, spotspass or something.

I just realized something : if you choose Nohr... your Kamui is going to be fighting his/her mom?

*insert 16 year old rebellious girl persona *
"Kamui, I don't like those people you are hanging around with. Specially that girl with the skimpy armor. And that guy with the shiny blade looks like a delinquent. And let's not even start talking about that creepy blonde guy with the book : that weirdo is a psycho for sure. Why can't you hang along with decent people like your siblings?"
"OMG mom, they are my friends!!! I HATE YOU!!You are not my family anymore!!!"

While plenty funny by iutself, this just made think of Garon acting like a steorotypical father and the typical:
-My son, I know you're around the time when you experiment... certain changes.
-Father, whatever happened, that was not normal!
-Don't worry son, yes it's normal, even if it fairly uncomfortable
- Is it normal to grow so much!?
-Yes, don't worry.
- that's impossible, even Camilla thought it was too big!
-... What are you doing with your sister?
- You see, it grew bigger than Marx horse!
- Wat
- That form it also grew a tail, and I suddenly got very perceptive, and nothing hurt, and
- Oh. Dragon Form, I get it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 10, 2015, 09:39:14 pm
I just realized something : if you choose Nohr... your Kamui is going to be fighting his/her mom?

Family issues are a common thing in Fire Emblem.

(http://i.imgur.com/Uu0qQku.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 11, 2015, 05:58:43 am
hoshito japan route
- kamui, I am your mother
- yeeeeeees! screw that geezer I always wished for a MILF!
- uh kamui... wut?
- I'll go claim the heads of my childhood friends for you!
- wat
- damn my sister can't possibly this cute!

- Kamui... we used to go to school together.. she even slept with you back in kindergarten!
- Yeah you bullied me and she still owes me 5 bucks.
- slash

- Die, for you hold the original sin of kidnapping!
- It.. it was for a good purpose...
- bull crap kidnapping is a crime u pedophile.
- victory!

- most likely male kamui

nohrmal europe route
- kamui, those people abandoned you. We raised you since infant.
- Yeah, those guys are nice and all but it seems forced and rushed. Not engaging to some lion head either.
- Now we must take over their lands. Are you ok with slaying your family?
- I doub't they considered me as a family. You guys are my family now.
- wooooooooot

- H..how can you turn a sword against your family.. you demon!
- and you let your family be kidnapped. I bet it was intentional. Can't handle my awesomeness.
- oh but your cute so I may take you hostage by force.
- darnit he cut himself D:

- No matter what you do, the blood of mine runs through you, I am your mother!
- My mother would never do crime like stealing kids.
- You were stolen too!
- Eh... well they treated me nicely and I haven't seen you try hard to get me back.
- stab stab stab
- spirits of the old Fire Emblems say these guys are cool.

- most likely female kamui.
- male kamui if you want slightly more legal chance of marrying your sister or wish to have royal marriage with princess.

harem what if route

- screw you all I don't trust any of you!
- blood in your hands...

-wat

- Halt, Aqua and I each went through a life of being raised in a wrong kingdom, and are possible heirs to each kingdom!
- Aqua and I shall engage and have a peaceful resolution!
- peace lasted for 5 years, then Aqua somehow died and war was inevitable.

- You can't get good things.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 10, 2015, 09:55:41 pm
I just realized something : if you choose Nohr... your Kamui is going to be fighting his/her mom?

Family issues are a common thing in Fire Emblem.

(http://i.imgur.com/Uu0qQku.jpg)

True, but normally the one you are fighting has done some really shady stuff. Ya know, like trying ot mind control to kill yer family , killed yer daddy, turning your half-brother against ya... etc etc
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 10, 2015, 11:43:11 pm
So, they finally introduce a proper loli. And she's Hoshido only.

WELL PLAYED, FIRE EMBLEM. WELL PLAYED. I'm completely torn now.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/d649c08e72deb44a8b652ccfe4cdb105/tumblr_inline_nppnl8Mxvx1rhzdy5_400.png)

Also, a video here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_1yQFYHGf7Q), for anyone that's interested in learning some more things about the upcoming game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 11, 2015, 05:59:47 am
I'll surprise everyone, but i'll live without loli  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 11, 2015, 08:53:15 am
I have to admit, the new video has impressed me again (specially some of the smaller hints, such as more use for the dragon vein, the fact that you won't only fight against Hoshido or Nohr, etc) which is good, because lately my hype had started slowing down. Well, that, and the japanese TV spot here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YKIbSlsCLHk) has some new images.

And Elvis, while the loli seems to appear on the Hoshido path, maybe she can actually also join you on Nohr with different circumstances? We don't have an official confirmation, fight the temptation!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 11, 2015, 02:29:59 pm
And Elvis, while the loli seems to appear on the Hoshido path, maybe she can actually also join you on Nohr with different circumstances? We don't have an official confirmation, fight the temptation!

Yes, in the dark route you'll enslave all lolis  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 11, 2015, 05:25:16 pm
And Elvis, while the loli seems to appear on the Hoshido path, maybe she can actually also join you on Nohr with different circumstances? We don't have an official confirmation, fight the temptation!

Yes, in the dark route you'll enslave all lolis  ::)

A dark absolutist teocracy around your main character where lolis are offered to you in sacrifice.

Or whatever rock's yer boat.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 11, 2015, 06:24:59 pm
And Elvis, while the loli seems to appear on the Hoshido path, maybe she can actually also join you on Nohr with different circumstances? We don't have an official confirmation, fight the temptation!

Yes, in the dark route you'll enslave all lolis  ::)

A dark absolutist teocracy around your main character where lolis are offered to you in sacrifice.

Or whatever rock's yer boat.

In my world there is only one waifu  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 12, 2015, 03:39:06 am
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1434047095437.jpg)

what
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 11, 2015, 07:32:51 pm
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1434047095437.jpg)

what

Aqua likes possesive and aggresive/violent men.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 11, 2015, 08:06:53 pm
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1434047095437.jpg)

what

education of waifu  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 12, 2015, 09:53:58 am
Its an edit silly.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 12, 2015, 11:29:05 am
I'm going to guess it has to do with the dragon transformation and being unable to control it. Because the hand looks more like a claw
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 12, 2015, 09:31:25 am
I'm going to guess it has to do with the dragon transformation and being unable to control it. Because the hand looks more like a claw

So it seems.

Take a look at this scene from the Fire Emblem If trailer (https://youtu.be/Pz2LJ-4DDWU?t=1m35s)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 13, 2015, 11:15:31 am
uve already seen some of these.

always owain
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 13, 2015, 11:37:07 am
and iñigo

Now I want a Fire Emblem x Nichibros crossover.

Posting more FE random stuff.

(http://i.imgur.com/NrHWgiD.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/wx1oXGX.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Y34JCWB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/rKlcZ91.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/2BeDmym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fvaaq1b.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 13, 2015, 06:23:22 pm
uve already seen some of these.

always owain

We really need nichibros season 2...

And Owain, Severa and Inigo make it to FE if. yay!!!!!
Also Nohrmasterrace

and iñigo

Now I want a Fire Emblem x Nichibros crossover.

Posting more FE random stuff.

(http://i.imgur.com/NrHWgiD.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/wx1oXGX.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/Y34JCWB.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/rKlcZ91.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/2BeDmym.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/Fvaaq1b.png)

Thos strips have a huge number of references.
Advance wars, WH40k , terminator... simply great. And Tharja trying ot eat the tacticians head/brains is great.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 13, 2015, 08:04:00 pm
I'll admit, these comics are great, but precisely because it references almost anything else the lack of references to others Fire Emblems is appalling. With the great deal of cross-over you can actually do with them thanks to the Otherwold shenanigans...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 15, 2015, 07:50:32 am
teach will show you how to treat axes properly ver.2
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 15, 2015, 08:12:23 pm
Img 1:
Teach really is a good teacher. His teachings are easy to follow.

Img2:
Am I the only one who thinks that Chrom looks much more badass in the Great Lord outfit?
If the TCG's show some of the characters in their "advanced" classes , I might have to keep an eye on it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 15, 2015, 11:39:18 pm
Heck, it's already shown some of the IF characters in their promoted outfits! This card game really is cool. Even if there's little chance of it coming out elsewhere, the images alone are awesome. And if I recall correctly, Tiki is awesome, as she should be.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 16, 2015, 08:08:50 am
Img 1:
Teach really is a good teacher. His teachings are easy to follow.

Img2:
Am I the only one who thinks that Chrom looks much more badass in the Great Lord outfit?
If the TCG's show some of the characters in their "advanced" classes , I might have to keep an eye on it.

this is why i manage the armor thread.

armors make you sexy as fk. whats with all the bikini armors? they sexy too tho.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 16, 2015, 12:15:27 am
Img 1:
Teach really is a good teacher. His teachings are easy to follow.

Img2:
Am I the only one who thinks that Chrom looks much more badass in the Great Lord outfit?
If the TCG's show some of the characters in their "advanced" classes , I might have to keep an eye on it.

this is why i manage the armor thread.

armors make you sexy as fk. whats with all the bikini armors? they sexy too tho.

There's nothing sexier than a lass in full plate armor beheading 2 other guys with a Zweihander.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 16, 2015, 06:35:39 pm
There's a new trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLFB-LtKYuQ)- and it's in English.

Also new SMTxFE trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHkhJ1LvtkM), not in English (and Tiki is the cutest thing ever).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 16, 2015, 06:50:21 pm
So Fire Emblem Fates it is...good choice.
I APPROVE!!!
But why must we wait until 2016 :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 16, 2015, 07:41:19 pm
Awesome trailer. Some scenes were already seen in the Japanese trailer, but we got a few new ones. Nice English dub, too.

Random comment from youtube:
Quote
Why is Aqua about to be killed by Arceus?
lmao


You can be Tiki's onii-chan in SMTxFE?! :3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 17, 2015, 04:00:59 am
You can be Tiki's onii-chan in SMTxFE?! :3

... You actually were in Shadow Dragon. And Mistery of Emblem. And in Sacred Stones Ephraim was basically a big brother and the adoptive brother of Myrrh. And Roy of Fa. And Leaf of Sarah, who in theory wasn't a dragon but yes a mystocal waif. And Celice was the half brother of Yuria. And Marth was like an adoptive brother for Chiki. Oh, wait...

The series didn't start with Awakening, and yes, I'm bitter. If it was a tiny detail still, but one of the series staples after dragons and incest?!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 17, 2015, 04:54:56 am
FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAATE stay night
cant wait uuuug. why did i buy new 3ds already when i can wait a year

(http://i.snag.gy/Oeuh0.jpg)
AH HA HA HA HA
AH HA HA HA HA
AH HA HA HA      HA
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 16, 2015, 10:30:40 pm
You can be Tiki's onii-chan in SMTxFE?! :3

... You actually were in Shadow Dragon.


Krom:Mar-Mars imouto!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 16, 2015, 11:46:43 pm
The series didn't start with Awakening

I know, the Fire Emblem series is actually older than me. It's just that I couldn't get my hands on many FE games when I was a kid.

I played Rekka no Ken years ago, but there was no Marth, Tiki, etc. in that game, as far as I can remember.
(I also played like the first two chapters of Sacred Stones, but that hardly counts.)

The next FE game I was able to play after that was Awakening, so I couldn't know about all these characters you mention.
(Anyway, I wasn't stating that SMTxFE allows you to be someone's older brother for the first time in the whole series,
I was just commenting Tiki's particular case in this trailer since she looked cute saying "onii-chan".)

and yes, I'm bitter.

Yes, you are. You already disapproved my earlier post since it didn't include references to older Fire Emblem games.
Tell that to the guy who drew the comic in the first place. I just posted it as random funny stuff, just like AkioKlaus did before me.

I'm sorry if my Fire Emblem ignorance offended you. But really, you shouldn't take these things so seriously. It's just a game, after all!

EDIT: 200 posts! yay -.-
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 17, 2015, 08:43:58 am
The series didn't start with Awakening

I know, the Fire Emblem series is actually older than me. It's just that I couldn't get my hands on many FE games when I was a kid.

I played Rekka no Ken years ago, but there was no Marth, Tiki, etc. in that game, as far as I can remember.
(I also played like the first two chapters of Sacred Stones, but that hardly counts.)

The next FE game I was able to play after that was Awakening, so I couldn't know about all these characters you mention.
(Anyway, I wasn't stating that SMTxFE allows you to be someone's older brother for the first time in the whole series,
I was just commenting Tiki's particular case in this trailer since she looked cute saying "onii-chan".)

and yes, I'm bitter.

Yes, you are. You already disapproved my earlier post since it didn't include references to older Fire Emblem games.
Tell that to the guy who drew the comic in the first place. I just posted it as random funny stuff, just like AkioKlaus did before me.

I'm sorry if my Fire Emblem ignorance offended you. But really, you shouldn't take these things so seriously. It's just a game, after all!

EDIT: 200 posts! yay -.-

cuz blazing sword is roy arc, tale of his father. Marth first arrived here through smash with DS remakes.

and remember, these are some of the dragon/manaketes. ninian cant fight with you ahahahahahaha

Updated: June 17, 2015, 09:11:35 am
Below are info you guys already know, but imma just translate korean information as a summary

: Fire Emblem IF / Fire Emblem Fates: Birthright & Conquest.
Path splits at chapter 6, and the path is locked on the game forever until purchase of game again, or purchase of DLC that unlocks the other path. 3rd Path is DLC only. Game is 4700 yen + 2000 yen per route. (so 8700 total)

Hoshido will have colosseum and free battle while Nohr only has limited combat chances, increasing the difficulty.
Each path is big as a full story line of Awakening so they can't sell them together for 4700 yen.

You can change the mode and difficulty once per game.

Weapon durability is removed
Weapons now have traits, such as silver sword has high damage in cost of -5% crit evasion. (Most likely enemy gets 5% crit against you.) Bronze sword can’t use special attacks (critical hits) but adds +10 to evasion from them.
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/05/19/fire-emblem-if-introduces-new-weapon-triangle-system/ has details.

multi purpose weapon such as hand axe and javelin will no longer chase in ranged combat (= you can only attack once now even if you out speed them.

Weapon triangle is now mixed and changed along with new weapon type.
New weapon type is concealed / hidden weapon.
The new triangle is...
Sword, magic >> Axe, bow >> Lance, hidden weaponry >> Sword, magic

Dual system is now balanced, compared to Awakening
Upon two units being together, dual strike will always happen and have higher critical chance.
stat bonuses has been severely nerfed, and dual guard requires charging and will blocks everything including dual strike.

There will be total of 60 classes

My castle system
You can build facilities, station companions and talk to them. You can also take bath or pet them to increase relationship with them. You can also visit other player's castle or lay siege. (buildings respawn so don't worry.)
you can build prison and use Orochi of Hoshido or Zero of Nohr's unique skill to capture an enemy. You can bribe or negotiate with them in prison to make them your allies.

has Amiibo feature. Scan Marth, Ike, Reflet (Robin), Lucina to summon them on your castle. Fight them and make them your allies.
how to make DLC that people don't find it evil cheap figurine for your desk and free dlc along with it!

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 17, 2015, 03:41:50 am
First off, I would like to point out how much I love that picture. As big a fan as I am of Nowi, she really does look better wearing practical clothing, and that dress looks lovely on her. The others look nice, too, of course.

On unrelated news, there's a half hour video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHqQk2zi3Pc) of Fire Emblem Fates, showing the prologue in English, and some other stuff still in Japanese. Not the best quality video; I'm sure there will be better uploads soon, but this gets the point across. The localization seems to be really good, judging by what text I managed to read here, and what voice acting came up in the earlier trailer. And more and more, I look forward to playing the game(s).

And that's not all! Two more videos got released, showing all the classes for each route- one for Hoshido (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcDpKihUWTY&feature=youtu.be), and one for Nohr (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WjKqx6iTFk&feature=youtu.be). It seems Corrin (Kamui) has a different promoted class in both versions, so he/she'll probably get a third- or the choice of either- on the third route. Also, the shapeshifters, for the first time ever, can promote!

Also, Nyx continues to be adorable.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 17, 2015, 07:28:04 am
But really, you shouldn't take these things so seriously. It's just a game, after all!

... You've said it! The worst thing, the proof of heresy of any gamer, not, of every person who enjoys games!


Kidding aside, I admit I was just ranting irrationally and selfishly without any motive. I had no intention towards you, juts towards the universe, that it's still so unfair. But that's basically what the definition of ranting in the internet means, just voicing the (in your opinion) injustices of the world and doing nothing more.

I've had an stressful week, so I probably needed to rant a little more than usual. It was in no way directed towards you and I apologize if you thought so.


(On another matter, I have a hard time knowing how people who haven't played any FE before liked Awakening so much when the story basically requires you to know a little about the Akaneia Fire Emblem lore for it to have some kind of sense. It was just the gameplay and characters?)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 17, 2015, 09:54:44 am
short lance pegasus..


ahahaha

Updated: June 17, 2015, 10:15:45 am
Liking the name Corrin... thx to There came an Echo.

also Nohr story is very sexy. torturing and slaughtering puny asian prisoners!
but your FAMILY has mercy to spare them as you wish!
I bet people of hoshido will only do that for you once as an good manner and after that go 'what have you done for us then? law is law we go for beheading now.'
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on June 17, 2015, 10:48:38 pm
Spoiler
(http://i.snag.gy/Oeuh0.jpg)
AH HA HA HA HA
AH HA HA HA HA
AH HA HA HA      HA
Nice to see that they got Tomokazu Sugita to reprise his role as Chrom, even if as an AU version of the character. Wonder if they'd get the English VA for Chrom to do the same?

Regardless, after confirming the Japanese VAs, I'm really, really hoping they'd do a dual language release for this.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on June 17, 2015, 06:22:58 pm
Kidding aside, I admit I was just ranting irrationally and selfishly without any motive. I had no intention towards you, juts towards the universe, that it's still so unfair. But that's basically what the definition of ranting in the internet means, just voicing the (in your opinion) injustices of the world and doing nothing more.

I've had an stressful week, so I probably needed to rant a little more than usual. It was in no way directed towards you and I apologize if you thought so.

Stress is a bad thing, indeed. I hope everthing's alright for you now. :)
(I've also suffered from it a few weeks ago because of final exams, so I can totally relate to you.)
No hard feelings, mate! I gotta admit I'm too sensitive sometimes.


Weapon durability is removed
Weapons now have traits, such as silver sword has high damage in cost of -5% crit evasion. (Most likely enemy gets 5% crit against you.) Bronze sword can’t use special attacks (critical hits) but adds +10 to evasion from them.
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/05/19/fire-emblem-if-introduces-new-weapon-triangle-system/ has details.

Now that's interesting. I can't wait to see how this affects the combat mechanics.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 17, 2015, 09:51:59 pm
So, finally catched up with the trailers.

If (localization tittle: Fates) is shaping quite good, and it seems it may even have some kind of animated scenes besides CGI (while CGI is great for some things, I always felt it wasn't used that good in Awakening, but I suppose lack of budget does that to you).

And for GER!=FE (I'm not going to call it SMTxFE anymore), I have to wonder what are the publicists thinking. I mean, the more we heard it gets better, is basically Persona with FE chars instead of demons (called Mirages), some kind of interplay with an audience, developers of very high pedegree (of the 2 directors, one is from Devil Survivor 2 and the other from SMT IV, and both worked together on Strange Journey) and all kinds of cool things. (Also kind of bummed they choose Chrom as the MC Mirage, I knew Marth was the obvious option, but I think I was hoping for somebody else). But they show the idols, J-POP things with lots of jiggling and skimpy clothing. It almost seems like they are advertising Neptunia. That's not bad in itself, but to me it seems clearly that they are aiming at the Persona and Awakening market, not reducing their options to a niche segment focusing on idols and jiggling.

It kinda worries me that the game will end doing badly, because the rest seems very solid (the idea of having Tiki as a pseudo-vocaloid is almost genius levels, specially when thinking how it relates with the story).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 17, 2015, 10:13:19 pm
About he SMTxFe, as much as I've enjoyed osme persona games, I would ahve wanted to go more SMT than Persona. But well, if I ever get a WiiU, I will surely give it a try
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 18, 2015, 07:04:57 am
Another half hour of English gameplay! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okQVoAeXvZc) I haven't watched it yet, but apparently it's got big spoilers in it, for those that would rather avoid such things.

As for the former crossover... Tikiloid is awesome, the game looks like a Fire Emblem-themed Persona, which is perfectly fine by me, and while I don't really get into idol stuff, I don't dislike it either. When I finally get around to getting that Wii U, I'll definitely pick it up- though I'd still do so if it were horrible; for the games I like most, I can forgive a lot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 17, 2015, 11:49:00 pm
open to spoilers but lazy to watch ...
ill just wait for text summary from some bloggers.


for SMTxFE, I really expected devil survivor (since i played devil survivor expecting FE...) so slightly worried on how it will turn out.

not that its a big deal since I will convince my self to not purchase wii u just for one game like I did for DS, 3DS, new 3DS, and Wii.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 18, 2015, 12:08:20 am
open to spoilers but lazy to watch ...
ill just wait for text summary from some bloggers.


not that its a big deal since I will convince my self to not purchase wii u just for one game like I did for DS, 3DS, new 3DS, and Wii.



Personally, 3DS has been the portable console that has given me more hours of gameplay  damm nintendo introducing me to FE , remaking fav n64 games and giving me a monster hunter with online multiplayer.. .. but I know what you mean. 


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 18, 2015, 11:36:16 pm
It appears that marriage and children return to this game.

Unless this image is somehow fake- and it looks pretty official to me.
(http://i.imgur.com/1bvnySr.jpg)

Finally found something about this game that I don't like. But I'll resist the urge to complain until I find out more. Or just forever. I'm sure it won't be a big deal in the end.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 19, 2015, 12:43:05 am
It appears that marriage and children return to this game.

Unless this image is somehow fake- and it looks pretty official to me.
(http://i.imgur.com/1bvnySr.jpg)

Finally found something about this game that I don't like. But I'll resist the urge to complain until I find out more. Or just forever. I'm sure it won't be a big deal in the end.

... I've not seen this information anywhere, and the Famitsu of the 18th has already been released and their article on fates summarized by Serenes Forest, and that appeared nowhere. Furthermore, the texture is weird at the center, but not anywhere else and it looks kinda weird for a scan (the "doubling" of the page at the left looks way too neat compared to how it normally is).

Still, the art and everything else seem like the real deal, so it's either true or someone has spent way too much time in it. Which means there's a 50/50, but i'll wait until it appears at Siliconera or Serenes Forest at least.


Also, on the game, I've seen the early gameplay shown on E3, and it looks fairly promising. I'm specially liking the new stances a lot more, they are way less gimmicky than pair up and seem to increase the strategising instead of depending on the RNG. Also, a lot of other thing comfirmed: the MC promotion will vary depending on the game (it'll use staffs with hoshido and magic with Nohr), Clerics with archers and staffs are a thing, just like monks with lances and staffs and a pseudo-pegasus with lance and arrows (the 3 with Hoshido). Nohr will have the classics and they'll have a wyvern class that uses magic and axes. Oh, and it seems there will be some kind of Area attacks (Hoshido royal brother archer does one) and the dragon vein will be more than cosmetic.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 19, 2015, 02:24:41 am
In the latest scans it appears that now if a unit swaps in your place to take the hit it will now take the damage instead of negating the entire strike.  This is definitely a plus in my book as pairing up units made the last game cakewalk.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 19, 2015, 02:39:54 pm
About the marriage and children, it has appeared both on Sili and SerenesForest, which have confirmed it's actually a leak from Dengeki. So yeah, it was a case of reality being unrealistic with the texture and doubling.

Still, it seems the children will come through parallel world shenanigans. I just hope it's done a lot better than in Awakening. I don't ask for Genealogy of the Holy War levels of implementation, but yes something that doesn't instantly break the plot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 19, 2015, 07:16:19 am
I've seen enough of the dialog and such so far to have a bit of faith- for instance, Corrin seems like a character as much as any other, rather than just a generic self-insert, so I have hopes that the children and supports and such will be, if not exceptionally amazing, then just better than Awakening's. Of course, I'm going to get and enjoy the game no matter what happens, but it'd be nice if it really did manage to work all of this out reasonably.

Though for some reason what bugs me most is the fake Tharja as a child character. Even though she was one of my favorite Awakening characters, it bugs me more than the Nohr fake children, and I didn't even like any of them much. It also discredits the idea of those characters being the grown up children from the good timeline, which I personally felt had a lot of potential.

At least this leaves open a chance for fake Nowi to exist, even if they are likely only going to include the three most popular and she isn't one of them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 19, 2015, 04:05:54 pm
Elvis, have faith in Nowi! She's a half-naked loli, Japan loves those! Imagine having her as a daughteru knowing that despite looking 13 she is going half naked around the camp and may end married before you know it!

Anyway, here's (http://www.nintendo.co.jp/fe/kakusei_bk/kekka/index.html) the popularity poll in Japan (shortly after the release). Except for Chrom (but he's understandable, as he is Mr. Fanservice and voiced by an extremely popular voice actor in Japan), it's not too bad of a ranking.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 19, 2015, 10:55:50 pm
it is gettin upgraded over and over.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 24, 2015, 02:48:30 pm
Sooooo they finally dealt with the same sex issue by giving each edition one homosexual character and let you marry him (in the Nohr edition, Conquest)/ her (in the Hoshido edition, Brithright) if you are of the same sex. More details here (http://www.siliconera.com/2015/06/24/fire-emblem-fates-will-allow-for-same-sex-marriage-sort-of-2/)

I actually quite like it, they let narrative go above waifus.

It also makes Nohr even more master-race because yuri suuuuuuucksssss
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 24, 2015, 03:39:56 pm
ok so i dont have to worry about some iPS cells to make offspring from relationships.  good.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 24, 2015, 06:20:39 pm
Tons of new information has come out, thanks to the release, and I've gone and avoided absolutely none of the spoilers. I do not regret this- the game looks amazing. And the villager loli is in Nohr as well, so, great call there, Marx. I should never have been worried. Though I can firmly say that I have a real desire to play both routes now. The homosexual relationships are a great development. It seems like a fair way to handle it, at least for a start, and give people some proper representation. Also, it's hot. That aside, I actually like a lot of the children this time! So I'll use some of them, probably. I just hope they're weaker than the Awakening children- I don't want to break the game, or leave the other characters I've been using completely in the dust as soon as they're available.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 25, 2015, 02:45:53 am
B-b-b-but having stupidly broken children is the coolest thing about them!!

It's like you don''t even want to recover the good time of FE4 when you had 5 children on LV1 and had to conquer a castle protected by 20 armoured enemies! Or the other time when 1 the-promote-is-great-but-now-it's-meh LV1 unit, a LV1 healer and a jeigan has to refuse an attack by 6 heavy armour units led by a general!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 24, 2015, 08:46:31 pm
personally stat bonus and skill combination itself is op, and your kids can have both.

They should've kept same max stats cuz yes they are hopefully more talented under a good parents and their skillship and blood everywhere with zombies to practice swords on.
but they are kids who aren't at their prime age, just very old teenagers. (except for someone who came over too early.)
parents with prime age of 20-30s suffer with low stats >.>

skill bonus could be like family run down artstyle, heck specially since those unique spells do carry over slightly and Fates is supposed to have alot of unique spells (which wont pass down I think but who knows.)

good thing i loved every kids except few like gerome who was not in top tier list thanks to cordelia. so I benefited alot.

Fates however...
kids are amazing still so won't change much.

 
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 25, 2015, 04:54:33 am
Gorchnik has imported the game and it is quite fun. Sadly, half of this content won't make it over to our localized version. Gorchnik can smell the stinky edits a mile away.

Also Nohr for life. Conquest is the only way to rule!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on June 25, 2015, 04:59:49 am
damn straight nohr is the truth!



I kinda question if it really takes this long for localization, since at E3 they seemed to have quite a bit done.

But then I would like story and dialougues so it makes sense to take long time i guess.
ill read them on wiki after i beat the game anyway tho
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 25, 2015, 01:27:48 pm
Gorchnik has imported the game and it is quite fun. Sadly, half of this content won't make it over to our localized version. Gorchnik can smell the stinky edits a mile away.

Also Nohr for life. Conquest is the only way to rule!

Censored content? They went all the way with Tharja, and while Henry was slightly changed it only made him more disturbing. There are so many naked butts? Or is it the return of incest!!??
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 25, 2015, 05:32:25 am
The jist of it is...

Spoiler
Incest, with every member of both royal families, being completely possible. The face rubbing- and if you're married to the character you rub, they'll basically talk dirty to you. The hot springs, where everyone's in their underwear. Also the ability to alter the character outfits and have them go into battle wearing, for instance, swimsuits, or just a towel.

Obviously, I'm hoping all of this makes it through to every version, though I could see some censorship happening.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 25, 2015, 01:49:42 pm
Spoiler
SO it is mainly the return of incest... I shed a tear of remembrance

Seeing how NOA was already afraid of 2 cousins marrying, we'll have to see how they handle this.

 I don't think they'll have a problem with the baths, or at least here in Europe we won't have it that much, but I heard that to Americans public baths are very shocking. The outfit things was the same that in Awakening, just that there it was only for one chapter and here is generalized, but unless we have a sexy CG that NOA can make sexier by censoring something, I don't think we have to worry.

Spoiler
Also, "talking dirty"? I know what you mean, but how bad it gets, around "sweet nothings"?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 25, 2015, 09:28:56 am
Sigh censorship... I'm not OK with it at all.Darn, I do think incest is plain ... bad , but well, I will simply not follow that path, not erase the option. I really don't get the whole fetish for that kind of stuff there appears to be in some southwestern Asian countries, but hey, from a historic POV it was not all that weird in the Middle ages among the nobility , specially in isolationist cultures. 

I doubt the bath part will be cut out, it's not much of a big deal : "Oh my god, people  of different genders , covered in towels, sharing a sauna/public bath? " .

And dirty talking? For real? Is that such big of an issue? Any kid will hear worse stuff on any reality-show, and in a completely gratuitous manner.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 25, 2015, 12:06:12 pm
Incest in Japan is... relative.

As a reminder, as our Lord has said before, Japan is one of the few places of the world where legal but not blood related brothers and sisters can marry each other (as a comparison, homosexual unions are not recognized in most of Japan). So marriage with the Nohr royalty would be straight legal there, a lot more than same-sex pairings (and there's also been the theory that the MC is also not directly related with Hoshidoans, which would explain why any of them can transform into a dragon). Also, while royalty in Europe had a fair lot of interbreeding, it was fairly minor in the whole. Both Pharaons and rulers of the Inca Empire traditionally married their sisters (not as an option but an obligation! It was seen as the duty to maintain their "divine" blood pure). Japan, having their royal family also claiming divine origin had also it's fair share of troubles. Japan however was different in that the emperor's court lost most of all their political power after the end of the Heian era (1185) with the figure of the Shogun. That shift focused a lot more power on the regional lords (the all famous daimyo) that were a lot more distant to the royal court and incest shenanigans, and together with the famous Japanese tradition of "put it under the rug" meant they are not as famous the Habsburg, which were so publicized due to the propaganda war made by the English against the Spanish Empire (like a lot of dark legends of the Spanish inquisition, which was bad, but not as terrible as they wanted to make you believe).

So, in a summary, the European royalty were actually mild, and incest is reaaaaaallyyyy complex, and it's not only an Asian theme, as Game of Thrones shows.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on June 25, 2015, 12:44:10 pm
Gorchnik has imported the game and it is quite fun. Sadly, half of this content won't make it over to our localized version. Gorchnik can smell the stinky edits a mile away.

Also Nohr for life. Conquest is the only way to rule!
Hope you're mistaken. At least for euro version.

It would be freaking unbelievable... Guess i gonna wait for someone to check it out before i'm going to buy localization.
Though i'm anyway not planning to buy jap 3ds

incest ain't something bad really  ::)
Anyway Nohr for life  8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on June 27, 2015, 02:57:38 am
Gorchnik will avoid spoilers for those who wish to wait and play our version but design the: incest, bathing, and (to some extent) touching mini-game wouldn't be a problem if it were actually story based or somehow dictated through political means. Instead though it is clearly done for no reason except for self-titillation and projecting. If say Hoshido made a political deal with Nohr that as a prince of that country you must marry the princess of the Hoshido country on your twentieth birthday or something.  Or in terms of the bathing perhaps maybe the family got together and did so because that's actually what JAPAN did back in the days (and by back in the days were talking 15th century and before).

But instead the problem here as stated above is for nothing but pandering to a common denominator in attempt to push more units and sell.  The "ahhs" and "oohs" and "don't look at me there" are nothing but tacky design decisions that bring down the overall quality of the game as a whole.  Don't get your lord wrong, sex sells and this will be true until the day humans don't get turned on by seeing boobs or six-packs, but when it is the primary motivator of inclusion in said-game just to push more units because your team has no faith in it's ability to sell a good story and game-play without the titillation, it brings down the quality overall of the final product.

Based on NoA's recent localization record with other titles in the past couple of years here is your lord's prediction. Marriage will be allowed with anyone as in the Japanese version but the dialect will be radically changed.  The touching game will most likely make it in but certain camera angles will be changed/unavailable. Bath scenes will most likely stay in but a few dialogue re-writes will probably happen.

Do note that Gorchnik is actually a staunch believer of no censorship in any form of media, art, or entertainment, but that is also why Gorchnik imported the game instead. If our version comes out relatively unchanged will take a look then.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 27, 2015, 03:38:50 pm
Yeah, I think that my Lord is more or less correct on his argument. I will wait until I play the game itself to decide if all those things are really only for titillation, but they don't seem too important.

My main point of wondering is what will NoA will do with the "not-blood" related thing Depending on how they tackle I may have hope that a future FE4 remake won't be totally sanitized.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 30, 2015, 04:26:22 pm
So, they finally introduce a proper loli. And she's Hoshido only.

WELL PLAYED, FIRE EMBLEM. WELL PLAYED. I'm completely torn now.

(http://41.media.tumblr.com/d649c08e72deb44a8b652ccfe4cdb105/tumblr_inline_nppnl8Mxvx1rhzdy5_400.png)


I watched some playthroughs...and without willing to spoil anything else...
But yet I'll put a spoiler tag just in case
Spoiler
It only involves in which side she's recruitable:
Spoiler
She is recruitable in the Nohr side as well, in the first paralogue.  People are starting to call her the Killager, 'cause she's a Donnel of sorts, but cuter and more lethal .


Story/gameplay wise it looks friggin awesome as little as I have seen. And man..THOSE CUTSCENES are simply gorgeous, and the improved character models are now more expressive and have more complex animations than in Awakening.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 01, 2015, 02:40:52 am
Every time I look into the game I do find something new and awesome. For one, I definitely like this new villager more than Donny. Poor Donnel, he and I just never could connect. One thing that saddens me is, a character that I was really looking forward to using, and who seemed like they'd be on both sides, is Hoshido-only. So I now have to play Hoshido sooner rather than later. In six months.

Who could resist someone this awesome?
(http://i.imgur.com/yig0ptv.png)
(http://i.imgur.com/hLT9cxd.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 01, 2015, 04:08:10 am
damn, she might be better than Amelia when it comes to villager/conscript.


also, would it be worth it to get japanese 3ds to play this in import version if they do censor contents that can't be easily fixed?

cuz for awakening, most censors where illustrations so you can fix that in 20 sec with google.

if they take contents out however....
story can be translated at sereneforest or etc fansites :D  (I check there for awakening dialouges anyway cuz im not letting my reflet marry 20 other guys when I already have chrom.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 30, 2015, 08:54:20 pm
damn, she might be better than Amelia when it comes to villager/conscript.


also, would it be worth it to get japanese 3ds to play this in import version if they do censor contents that can't be easily fixed?

cuz for awakening, most censors where illustrations so you can fix that in 20 sec with google.

if they take contents out however....


Let's see if more info comes out about that first... simple as applying parental control to turn it on/off , raise recommended age. I mean, I doubt many kids play FE...

story can be translated at sereneforest or etc fansites :D  (I check there for awakening dialouges anyway cuz im not letting my reflet marry 20 other guys when I already have chrom.)

Because completionism demands it!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 30, 2015, 09:01:59 pm
Eh, sincerely, while I agree on playing both editions, I find the ladies in Nohr more interesting. On Hoshido maybe Orochi and the royal family, but everything else looks fairly 'meh'.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 01, 2015, 05:21:20 am
nohr has sexy males.

hoshitdo is... eh i think they have fun story behind, but visual wise not so fun.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 01, 2015, 01:08:25 am
Funny enough, this is the first game Gorchnik has ever played that required your lord to enter his pin to remove the parental controls on the 3DS
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 01, 2015, 09:31:05 am
damn there actually is a lock. lol.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 01, 2015, 03:56:06 pm
Funny enough, this is the first game Gorchnik has ever played that required your lord to enter his pin to remove the parental controls on the 3DS

No need for censorship then..maaaaaaybe . Hooray!

Until some silly parent association appears and says that they don't wanna deal around with parental control and that censorship is there to allow them not to have to take care of what their children watch or play .

Speaking of the game itself, I love the attention they've payed to detail : the face expressions of the in-game models change depending on the situation, like how much health they have left, if they land a crit, if they're saved by a double guard or get a "No damage" result.



Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 01, 2015, 04:04:36 pm
Okay, it seems the sales of Fire emblem fates in Japan have been very good. At least the franchise is secure. Also, while I have only heard soem small things about the story, it really seems to have improved respect to Awakening. It seems we've also recovered the standard bittersweet feeling of FE stories, it won't be a happyfest like Awakening.

Also, very interesting how, when looking at the personal skills for the characters of each side, there seems to be a theme going on: In general, Nohr skills seem to be a lot more "active", basically giving passive bonus or rewarding you for engaging the enemy in certain ways (bonus for attacking an enemy that acnnot counterattacks, one that has full HP, etc). Meanwhile, while Hoshido also has it's lots of passive bonus, it's skills seem to be a lot more situational or triggered by the enemy (a lot of counterattack skills for Hoshido). It's very easily seen in the skills of the brother of each family:
Ryouma for example gains a boost if he is supported by an ally with a level lower than him , while Takumi gains it if the level is higher than him. Marx (Xander is the localization name, but for obvious reasons I'll stick with this one...) and Leon meanwhile trigger their skills depending only on the enemy HP: Marx gains a boost if the enemy has full HP, while Leon if it doesn't have full HP. Curiously, the theme is also there on the children, but a little different (Nohr children have lots of support skill, while Hoshidoan children gain mostly bonus if they do nothing in a turn).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 09, 2015, 07:35:14 am
Here is small game systems that people managed to find out.


1. the odds system has been changed.
previously the odds of stat rising, crits happening, hitting enemy etc were set based on which action was made, so with trial and repeat you could have perfect gameplay.
Now it is set on the STAGE. If you want to set the odds for a perfect gameplay, you have to do trial and repeat not by reloading a save, but BEAT A STAGE AGAIN.

it also seems that past lunatic, which stat to rise at lvl up is set permanently no matter which gameplay etc. force balancing for you cursed ones and blessed ones.

2. grids
grid option removed. they found it not needed and no one uses it. poor me


3. promotion and lvl ups.
no change loop to prevent 500 cumulative levels.

now you have parallel, master, marriage, buddy proof.
parallel lets you change to jobs available in your tier, but you keep your level. this stops farming.
compared to awakening, reset to lvl 1 and demote to tier 1 class has been removed.

master promotes your unit. simple.

marriage is to promote to your waifu/husbando's class.

buddy is to promote to your buddy waifu/husbando's class. [spoiㅣer]same sex ofcourse.[/spoilerfailed]


4. wedding.
so for the same marriage thing,
you don't get S rank.
They also lack some dialogues compared to opposite gender marriage.
You get A+ rank lower rank
They announced that US/EU users claimed that tomodachi collection lacked gay relationship so they added it to Fire Emblem as a response.

 main character are allowed to marry their family member as trailer said pick a damn sister to fk live with. (not original. fire emblem had this before.)

so my question from start was : how do we give birth to mark if reflet male marries chrom?
response: So there is a female partner in Hoshitdo (Tharja) and male partner on Nohrmal (Zero). When you engage them, your child character does not join you in the game. when you beat the game, you adopt a kid tho. [s[wtf[/s]


5. weapons
japanese weapons are generally weaker than their western counterparts but have stat bonuses.
(Im guessing it is like 1 less dmg but you get 1str/mag.)

weapon durability was removed because it made the game too challenging as it required further than field strategy, but an war strategy to supply the troops. (So logistics are out I suppose) another very small factor was users not using their best weapons to 'prize them' (from silver to legendary unique weapons and MC weps like rapier.)

Weapons now may cause status effect.
even if it does 0 damage, status effect applies. so if boss is too strong, use dual attack system to have your partner attack with a hidden weapon. He hits the boss, and boss's defense stat is now debuffed through status effect. The character that declared attack now follows up with 10 damage that may have been weaker.

enemy does it as well to prevent ike with ragnell solo everything.
but what if sol happens? vantage happens? too much armor for luna and debuff happens?

above are information some guy in korea translated based on magazine release and 2ch forums so names may spell differently in US. Specially since they localize Japanese like names.



also lastly,

MC promotes to different class (white personbloodline and black blood). Black blood is stronger cuz of difficulty reasons.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 09, 2015, 07:25:30 am
Nothing excessively new. As a side note, Hoshidoan classes skills tend to be a little better than the Nohr ones, which is compensated by the fact that they tend to be mostly strange classes. Also, probably to reflect both the fact of Nohr royalty having a spartan training and that you cannot train in that edition, everyone except Elise is actually a pre-promoted, and good ones at that. Their only flaw is a sub-par speed, but with the additions of a lot of weapons that cannot double attack and some skills that do the same there's the possibility that speed may lose it's place as the god-tier stat.

Oh, and Gunter is a true Jeigan, not a Tytania, Oifaye or Frederick. Extremely bad bases and growths. Do not use him, specially on Nohr, if you want some kind of chance

And finally, because I never had the chance until now, I present you this arrangement of musics from FE 1-10 medley. For anyone searching a nostalgia trip or simply for very good music hear it here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ziXSioJ2JQ)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 09, 2015, 03:48:37 pm
The "Wedding" section of your statement isn't entirely accurate. It's true that most same-gender supports only have C, B, A, and A+, with A+ having no conversation. However, these aren't considered marriage or romance. Only the avatar gets actual same-sex marriage, which does, in fact, have S-Rank. Furthermore, this is only with two potential characters, one of each gender. The avatar also can't get any A+ rank supports with anyone. A shame. I wanted to pair Nyx and Elise ever since I saw that one image of them. Also...

grid option removed. they found it not needed and no one uses it. poor me
This saddens me slightly. Sure, most of the time I just turn the grid off entirely, but sometimes I turn it all the way up, and lately I've been leaving it at default a lot. I actually really enjoyed this option. But whatever, it ain't a big deal in the end.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on July 14, 2015, 06:55:01 am
Good Smile Company is releasing a 1/7 scale Cordelia figure (http://www.goodsmile.info/en/product/5112/Cordelia.html).

On the downside: At ¥15,556, it's about +50% more expensive than the Tharja one (¥10,286) from the same sculptor and producer, though AmiAmi (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-012602) at least cuts that down to ¥12,930.


... Well, guess it's time to start putting even more money aside to feed my hobby. 8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 14, 2015, 10:53:01 pm
still waiting for my lucina.

crunchy fails to tell me any news about it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on July 14, 2015, 04:52:44 pm
Where are my Nowi and Tiki ???
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on July 14, 2015, 07:57:19 pm
Cool figure, but... Where's my Anna??  :'(

Severa would be nice, too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 14, 2015, 09:55:24 pm
99% its based on japanese popularity vote.

so wheres gaius u pervs
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on July 15, 2015, 02:14:04 am
That's quite the detailed model. Gorchnik might have to pick it up.

EDIT: Is this being offered by anyone other than GSC?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on July 15, 2015, 02:49:50 am
That's quite the detailed model. Gorchnik might have to pick it up.

EDIT: Is this being offered by anyone other than GSC?
I'm planning to get it from AmiAmi (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?gcode=FIGURE-012602), haven't seen other retailers offer it yet (it is scheduled for release April next year).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on July 15, 2015, 06:09:42 pm
99% its based on japanese popularity vote.

so wheres gaius u pervs
Pathetic idiots! They don't understand who are goddesses!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 22, 2015, 01:15:19 am
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1437526716874.png)

these look alikes are nice.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 22, 2015, 02:49:15 am
Ahh Ophelia. It's a nice hint towards Lissa but has more of her father's personality.  Kawaii as hell!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 22, 2015, 03:55:15 pm
CG of chars
Spoiler
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1437576052787.jpg)

should i make fun of female civilian being a soldier

or maids being a soldier.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 22, 2015, 07:25:18 pm
SPPOOOOOOOOIIIIIIILEEEEEEERSSSSSSS

Use them Akio. I'm permissive of this stuff, but it rattles me to see it like that. It's only proper for those who don't want to know everything and play the game to find it. That and the image is so big it probably makes charging the page eternal for some, so at least have the decency to spoiler it
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 22, 2015, 07:51:01 pm
oh right. some of them aren't revealed at first.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 24, 2015, 03:15:44 pm
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-fates-manga-announced/



hmm
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 24, 2015, 03:29:56 pm
http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-fates-manga-announced/



hmm

YESH!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 24, 2015, 03:34:52 pm
Okay, that's pretty cool. I will now dream futilely of an anime series that will never come.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 24, 2015, 03:38:57 pm
That will never happen...which is a shame, I'm quite sure an anime series would have good following. Just see the Persona games , Valkyria Chronicles  and other JRPGs who have ended up with a solid anime adaptation. But it's Nintendo we're talking about, not Sony which also has it's own animation studios and...is a huge corporation.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 24, 2015, 04:04:49 pm
I think marth had like OVA atleast.

Roy had manga series which he was a side character.

awakening had shorts.



WHERE ARE MY HECTOR ANIMU!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 24, 2015, 04:23:01 pm
Despite it's success in the west, FE7 is not that popular in Japan, I think actually below FE6 (despite the former being superior on all levels in my opinion). Really, Marth has always been extremely popular in Japan, so if he didn't get a full anime instead of 3 OVAS I don't think any will get it (for sales' sake, FE3 sold almost a million copies in Japan alone, even with Awakening's global record-breaking they didn't reach that)

Even if not for that, I doubt there really will be an anime of Awakening and Fates more or less because 30% of the game is shipping (90% for some),and plus the avatar and other things there's no sane way it could work; it simply wouldn't be able to reproduce your experience with the game, with your character, your waifu, your pairings with your characters which can be extremely different, etc.

FE4 and 5 would make a damm good anime, but Nintendo would never remake them because they would need to censor half the game in the current times (in short, they have incest, mass slaughter of children, civilians and basically everyone, implied torture, patricide and a serious case of 80's hairdos in FE4), so no hopes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on July 25, 2015, 12:33:09 am
FE4 and 5 would make a damm good anime, but Nintendo would never remake them because they would need to censor half the game in the current times (in short, they have incest, mass slaughter of children, civilians and basically everyone, implied torture, patricide and a serious case of 80's hairdos in FE4), so no hopes.

I'd watch it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 24, 2015, 04:32:00 pm
I always thought the best approach, at least for Awakening, is to show what everyone was up to before the game started, so it doesn't get in the way of anything. Or just have it all be side stuff, comedic in nature, with no pairings being mentioned because they don't need to be. The kids could even show up, with default colors, and hang out with each other and the mothers.

Might be slightly harder for Fates, since Corrin existed in Nohr, but they could still manage by giving him or her a younger, default look, and going from there. Plus I'd be totally fine with loli!Corrin.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 24, 2015, 07:08:54 pm
Despite it's success in the west, FE7 is not that popular in Japan, I think actually below FE6 (despite the former being superior on all levels in my opinion). Really, Marth has always been extremely popular in Japan, so if he didn't get a full anime instead of 3 OVAS I don't think any will get it (for sales' sake, FE3 sold almost a million copies in Japan alone, even with Awakening's global record-breaking they didn't reach that)

Even if not for that, I doubt there really will be an anime of Awakening and Fates more or less because 30% of the game is shipping (90% for some),and plus the avatar and other things there's no sane way it could work; it simply wouldn't be able to reproduce your experience with the game, with your character, your waifu, your pairings with your characters which can be extremely different, etc.

FE4 and 5 would make a damm good anime, but Nintendo would never remake them because they would need to censor half the game in the current times (in short, they have incest, mass slaughter of children, civilians and basically everyone, implied torture, patricide and a serious case of 80's hairdos in FE4), so no hopes.

well, I always thought that Hector's popularity made strong brute main character a trend in fire emblem.

putting MC's hair color back in blue, (well, ephraim was greenish blue.)
I think chrom more of brute than a fancy prince boy.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 24, 2015, 09:25:09 pm
Well, Hector's hair colour was fixed by FE6. On the "brute" thing you're slightly right, but more because it was aimed to the west. Sacred Stones, Path of Radiance and Radiant Dawn actually sold roughly as much in the west as in Japan (though for the latter 2 it helped the Japanese console market was already diminishing in Japan).

Chrom, while more towars the strong side, is a lot more gentle than the rough Hector, and the almost cold Ike and Ephraim. In effect is basically a Sigurd (FE4 1st generation MC) without the latter's knight motif. Heck, even Tiki coments on him not being that similar to Marth but yes to another old hero (it could always be the first Exalt, but even then, any of the three above would never be caught with founding a theocracy of all things).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 24, 2015, 11:39:57 pm
beach outfits
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763067410.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763340167.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763435004.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763908551.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763247559.png)


straight from 4ch so if they don't archive it, you can't see it later :D

also seems like 3rd storyline is rated as
Spoiler
fight club
and written by a guy who did senran.

and dual destinies.

http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437752481990.webm
i like the possibilities of new age rating.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 25, 2015, 12:38:06 am
beach outfits
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763067410.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763340167.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763435004.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763908551.png)
(http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437763247559.png)


straight from 4ch so if they don't archive it, you can't see it later :D

also seems like 3rd storyline is rated as
Spoiler
fight club
and written by a guy who did senran.

and dual destinies.

http://i.4cdn.org/a/1437752481990.webm
i like the possibilities of new age rating.


1. Cool, missing both Nee-sans and Marc tho.

2. The first rule about the invisible kingdom is: YOU DON'T SPEAK ABOUT THE INVISIBLE KINGDOM

3.I know when that scene happens!!!! YAAAAAAAY.

And the possibilites of the new age rating are aweosme indeed

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 25, 2015, 04:28:20 am
Since we're posting awesome things...

Best sibling. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxIDXCRiy7M)

Besides maybe Leo.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 25, 2015, 07:24:58 am
Uh, they actually changed "onii-chan" with "onee-chan" when the avatar is female. Nice. I'm surprised with the attention to the tiny details, something Awakening needed a little more.

And well, I have to admit I actually like more how the guys look in swimsuits than the 2 imoutos. Sakura is in the classical summer dress, that I always found kinda 'meh' (with some exceptions that managed to make my jaw drop), while Elise is in a classical "collecting flowers because I'm cute and moe and sweet and...". In comparison, Leo and Takumi look like they came out from Free!, and Ryouma looks like he's fighting to death with a fish, which makes it kinda hilarious.

I suppose we'll have to wait until we see all though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on July 25, 2015, 07:37:11 am
Since we're posting awesome things...

Best sibling. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxIDXCRiy7M)

Besides maybe Leo.

Difference in powers...
https://youtu.be/-AJoBQMUvaw

Srsly... waiting this game takes a lot of patience...

Still i want see more of Aqua... Dark one ofc :)
https://youtu.be/NTy-eYbRf88?list=PL9pZDDDdDkNRIWOUkFk-r9jvp97xc-Et3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 25, 2015, 07:49:37 am

Difference in powers...
https://youtu.be/-AJoBQMUvaw

Srsly... waiting this game takes a lot of patience...

The are really going all out with the imouto wars...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 25, 2015, 04:00:26 pm

Difference in powers...
https://youtu.be/-AJoBQMUvaw

Srsly... waiting this game takes a lot of patience...

The are really going all out with the imouto wars...

Well,they've gotta do something to keep themselves entertained.  Personally I like the siblings in Nohr all together best (mostly because I like Leo's character far more than Takumi, the others are quite even, with maybe Elise being a bit ahead of Sakura after the playthorughs I've seen so far ). But it's quite nicely balanced
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on July 26, 2015, 07:55:36 am
5000th post here in other games...

i wanna get into FE now...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 26, 2015, 12:09:03 am
5000th post here in other games...

i wanna get into FE now...

I think I had a download link for an emulator where you could play FE 7 , the first that was brought to the west.
But Marx is the expert here, he could tell you which one is best to start with.
*I'm not saying Awakening because if I correctly recall you don't have a 3DS and I don't know of any 3ds emulators.*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 26, 2015, 01:17:54 am
i shouldve gotten japanese 3ds. english patch is finished and people are playing it.


oh well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 26, 2015, 04:54:38 pm
The best to start is definitely FE7. It's got one of the best tutorials (integrated with the storyline) I've ever seen, though it may be kinda frustrating to those which already knew how to play as it's fairly long.

After it, Sacred Stones or Awakening are very good too. They don't give you an explanation on the mechanics in depth as FE7, but both are very forgiving, in contrast with FE7, that after he tutorials takes the kiddy gloves off and becomes fairly challenging on later stages (the only FE I couldn't finish on my first playthrough, though I was 11 at the time so that may have played a part). Awakening also has casual mode, so in that sense is even more forgiving.

Path of Radiance and its sequel are good (though the sequel is fairly divisive), but not that good as introductory games, the same of which could be said of Shadow Dragon, which is fairly hardcore.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 26, 2015, 10:21:36 pm
I agree on FE7. It also has one of the best stories, in my opinion, so if you're looking for some fun besides just the battles, that'd be good. It also has Matthew, and that guy's just great.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 26, 2015, 03:00:57 pm
i had to beat blazing sword twice cuz my friend deleted my save.

i suspended it in middle of battle with uhai...


and beat 3rd time for hector.

also eliwood durandal ahahaha
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 26, 2015, 05:27:33 pm
I agree on FE7. It also has one of the best stories, in my opinion, so if you're looking for some fun besides just the battles, that'd be good. It also has Matthew, and that guy's just great.

Matthew is a selling point. Everything from his character  to his supports is plain awesome.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on July 26, 2015, 07:00:04 pm
I agree on FE7. It also has one of the best stories, in my opinion, so if you're looking for some fun besides just the battles, that'd be good. It also has Matthew, and that guy's just great.

Matthew is a selling point. Everything from his character  to his supports is plain awesome.

Indeed. His video on nico was best thing ever ive seen as much as renalt's video.
http://www.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm8138712
mofo nergal
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on July 31, 2015, 09:12:18 am
Just watching videos of conversations between characters , and I'm pleased to see the way of the "Your mom" comebacks is not lost to Gangrel...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5VhxyKTkD0

Also.

(http://38.media.tumblr.com/7a8bc9fe0c2c7fccb2f419a9c8fec75b/tumblr_mjfej0ERQJ1rmw3j6o1_500.gif)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 31, 2015, 03:31:54 pm
Found the emulator and ROMs for FE 7 and FE 8 , if you're still interested in giving the game a try.

PS: my tactics rating is going down so fast due to all the turns I keep on passing at the end of a a "sieze the throne" map to build supports.... A pitty, was doing fairly well in all the other fields.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on July 31, 2015, 04:26:06 pm
Ooh, yes I am, John, and...

If any of you have played DW (I remember having a commbox conversation about it the other day, too), You'll know what I mean when I say Validar totally looks like an evil Zhuge Liang. Every time I see Validar's face, I can't help but think "Evil Sleeping Dragon", Which is funny, because Validar is trying to awaken an evil, sleeping (kinda?) dragon.

However, for the convenience of those poor souls that haven't played DW, here's a reference.

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/2ZyWZiV.jpg)

Totally looks like an evil version of

Spoiler
(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/dynastywarriors/images/5/5c/Zhugeliang-dw7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 31, 2015, 05:39:06 pm
 I played Dinasty warriors but I never caught on that. Probably because Validar reminded me more of a generic evil wizard. There's some resemblance though, Zhuge actually has a goatee beard, and he pulls it off with style (Cao cao however falls on the typical evil look)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on July 31, 2015, 05:51:57 pm
I played Dinasty warriors but I never caught on that. Probably because Validar reminded me more of a generic evil wizard. There's some resemblance though, Zhuge actually has a goatee beard, and he pulls it off with style (Cao cao however falls on the typical evil look)

I guess Validar does kind of look like Cao Cao... I guess that never dawned on me because Validar has a somewhat smug face, and Cao Cao just looks angry or irritated all the time... like, all of the time, except maybe that time when he was surprised and in DW7 when he was busy dying on Dun... Those times, he didn't seem so angry, except when he was surprised, he went back to being Mr. Grumpyface soon afterwards, and when he died, he never looked grumpy again.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 31, 2015, 06:05:36 pm
The emulator :

http://www.emulator-zone.com/doc.php/gba/vboyadvance.html

And the ROMs :

http://www.romsup.com/search/3/fire%20emblem/game_boy_advance/news/1

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on July 31, 2015, 10:40:59 pm
Apparently this is a thing, but what?

http://www.romsup.com/download/3ds/nintendo-3ds/14128/fire-emblemawakening-u.html
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on July 31, 2015, 11:10:29 pm
Apparently this is a thing, but what?

http://www.romsup.com/download/3ds/nintendo-3ds/14128/fire-emblemawakening-u.html

Hmm, I don't know if it's for a 3ds emulator or for you to download to the 3ds itself in case you feel like messing up with the game files. Which is fun. MaMUxFeMU = Morgan Twins
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 01, 2015, 06:21:24 am
3ds has CFW as far as i remember.
Though it's unstable and complicated -> that's why i don't use it :)

Sadly though... it would be good to have CFW on 3ds
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 01, 2015, 08:15:50 pm
So... I did some thinking after trying out the FE games John linked to me.

So, with that thinking in mind, I decided that since I do have my old DS lite still working, The failure of newer DS's to incorporate backwards compatibility wouldn't be a problem, so I spent some money to get a 3DS, plus a 1 year warranty and the 16 GB sd card, and FE Awakening, Omega Ruby, and Monster Hunter 4 Ultimate.   


My Robin, for a lack of ideas, is named Mariya and is modeled after the character of the same name I designed for CoC as accurately as possible, with voice 1, here's CoC Mariya for reference

(http://i.imgur.com/3zb5Fnn.jpg)

Asset: Speed

Flaw: Defense

And mind you, I decided the asset/flaw by going to Roll20 and rolling 100 d8s and then another 100 d7s to see which stat got the most rolls... total coincidence that the dice rolls match the set up CoC Mariya has... (high dexterity and decent move rate, but low Constitution compared to other characters.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 01, 2015, 08:41:24 pm
I set flaw as HP, thinking that it may affect max stat, and hp generally has high % and will always hit 60.

and set asset as luck.


holy &*@ robin stop dying.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 01, 2015, 09:03:56 pm
Ah, i went with the mage biuld. Magic as asset and luck as flaw. I'm quite proud of how it turned out, even if sometimes I wonder why I went and gave Robin so much sword skills when in the end the best was to simply use Valflame and nuke everybody.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 01, 2015, 09:06:45 pm
Ah, i went with the mage biuld. Magic as asset and luck as flaw. I'm quite proud of how it turned out, even if sometimes I wonder why I went and gave Robin so much sword skills when in the end the best was to simply use Valflame and nuke everybody.

maybe to make it like Linda in shadow dragon remake?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 01, 2015, 11:03:58 pm
I'm going to assume it's a graphical error on my end, but when Robin meets the Shepherds...


Sumia: *trips*

Chrom: Those boots of yours again?

Me: But none of them have modeled feet. It must be the fact that NO ONE HAS ANY FEET IN THIS SCENE!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 01, 2015, 11:20:38 pm
In Awakening, a world wide mutation has ensured that those thing we call "feet" are inexistent there. The entire concept is a wild theory for them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 01, 2015, 11:24:01 pm
In Awakening, a world wide mutation has ensured that those thing we call "feet" are inexistent there. The entire concept is a wild theory for them.

Which is what makes you go all *WOW* when you see Chrom with feet in Fates
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 01, 2015, 11:29:51 pm
Oh, I remembered this thing I saw when Frederick started explaining the game's Rock, Paper, Scissors system.


(http://cdn.brawlinthefamily.keenspot.com/comics/2013-06-28-499-TheWeaponTriangle.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 04, 2015, 11:21:14 am
Speaking of a certain Great Knight, he 1HKO'd the candy man...   

However, I'm a dirty whore because I had A spotpass character solo most of the entire Valmese royal guard While I got all the treasure  And Walhart himself...

Ares for life
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 04, 2015, 03:17:05 am
Speaking of a certain Great Knight, he 1HKO'd the candy man...   

However, I'm a dirty whore because I had A spotpass character solo most of the entire Valmese royal guard While I got all the treasure  And Walhart himself...

Ares for life

Feel no shame, I use my own spotpass characters in lunatic runs ...grinded enought to get the 100k valued item.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 04, 2015, 11:31:12 am
Speaking of a certain Great Knight, he 1HKO'd the candy man...   

However, I'm a dirty whore because I had A spotpass character solo most of the entire Valmese royal guard While I got all the treasure  And Walhart himself...

Ares for life

Feel no shame, I use my own spotpass characters in lunatic runs ...grinded enought to get the 100k valued item.

B-But I'm on Normal Casual...

And I use Ike, Roy, King Marth, and Alm, too...

However, I'm trying to set up Cordelia and Fredrick, they seem so perfect for each other, despite what Old Hubba says... I also unintentionally got Chrom and Mariya hooked after trolling the fuck out of Gangrel.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 04, 2015, 04:39:50 am
Speaking of a certain Great Knight, he 1HKO'd the candy man...   

However, I'm a dirty whore because I had A spotpass character solo most of the entire Valmese royal guard While I got all the treasure  And Walhart himself...

Ares for life

Feel no shame, I use my own spotpass characters in lunatic runs ...grinded enought to get the 100k valued item.

B-But I'm on Normal Casual...

And I use Ike, Roy, King Marth, and Alm, too...

However, I'm trying to set up Cordelia and Fredrick, they seem so perfect for each other, despite what Old Hubba says... I also unintentionally got Chrom and Mariya hooked after trolling the fuck out of Gangrel.

Lucina and Morgan will be UBERchar then.

But Severa-chan , the ice tsun queen, will not be a redhead !!!

:_O

Protip: Children inherit 100% sure the last skill (skill in the 5th slot) of each parent. For example, galeforce is great, specially for male characters as they cannot learn it any other way. You might want to pass Rightful King or Aether to Morgan from Chrom then
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 04, 2015, 05:02:32 am
4chan has a long history that Cordelia is rape victim of Chrom.


not that its important or anything!

just praise fredrick!

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 04, 2015, 05:45:52 am
4chan has a long history that Cordelia is rape victim of Chrom.


not that its important or anything!

just praise fredrick!



4chan also says Yamada from working is horrible for *gasp* trolling other people. I do not agree.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 04, 2015, 02:24:28 pm
Don't worry too much about Galeforce. Yeah, it's good. Maybe one of the better skills. You don't need it. You don't need to jump through hoops to get it, or spread it like an STD.

...and my current Lunatic run is CordeliaxFrederick, so +1 to that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 04, 2015, 03:50:11 pm
... CordeliaxFrederick has actually one of the worst ending though... (yeah, Cordelia is mai waifu, sorry, so I'll never be able to agree!)

Also, taking 4chan seriously on any matter is mostly bad. I mean, in a 1% of the cases they make some good points, but in most they're laughable.

And I think you kinda need galeforce in Lunatic. Well, in normal you don't even need to pair up. I did the entire last chapter with only 2 pair ups (one was Morgan and Severa, and the other Kerje and Donnel, one up, and the pther down), and one ended being moot because Tiki did a critical and finished the boss earlier than expected.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 04, 2015, 02:40:03 pm
Galeforce isn't needed in Lunatic either. I mean, if you use a different method of abuse, since you'll need one or another. Just abuse Nowi/Nah and the Avatar and other overpowered units and you'll be fine.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 04, 2015, 02:44:40 pm
galeforce - much easier positioning. often tied with mounted troops for hit and run, or simply spam your forces with galeforce to take out all enemy threats in one turn, reducing risk of death in enemy turn

vintage vengence - always strike first, always do 60+ damage.

sol - not that reliable.

buffer - you dont have to grind stats cuz I had to! taste thy rainbow and pink aura!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 04, 2015, 03:11:55 pm
I thought the favorite trick on Lunatic was to pair the Avatar with Nah to have a Morgan manakete that could almost solo the entire game (logically selecting the adequate asset and flaw, my magic build wouldn't work for example).

Vantage and vengenace is a little too risky for my taste, they require you to have less than half HP and the second depends on the RNG, which is always out to screw you. But I seen people risk a lot more than once, so for them it should be a very valuable strategy. And buffs could work with in some cases, but in some missions you would have it bad (when you have to divide your troops and can't afford to take time). Well, you can also use the DLC classes for their broken skills (I swear, Dread Fighter skills are incredibly broken), but either Galeforce or Nah!Morgan are the most straightforward ones (and a lot of times they combine the two).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 04, 2015, 05:50:29 pm
If you really want to break Lunatic, all you need is Chrom and female Robin.

Just get Robin to level twenty as soon as you can and promote her/change her class as soon as a seal appears. Once she doesn't need Frederick anymore, Chrom becomes her support partner the rest of the game. Just end turn, when your turn comes around, everything has died. Repeat until end of chapter.

Who knows, maybe eventually Chrom even gets enough Duel-Attacks to get a decent level himself, and it'll be very easy to max his Lance Rank on promotion. If Robin ever gets really low health you can even switch to Chrom. Though, infinite access to the convoy, so it shouldn't matter much.

Of course, you can also easily pick up Galeforce while doing this; Robin will be gaining around a million levels. You don't even need to use Lucina or Morgan, either. They'll just get in the way by not being completely immortal.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 04, 2015, 06:50:32 pm
vengeance is like armorshift(something like that), a proc skill that can proc 100%. generally achived through dual and buff. Its like late game cheat code, specially on dlc maps.


also, there is one general rule of fire emblem to remember:
if they are not promoted, they are good.
if they are kawaii as fk, they are good.
if they are handsome, they are good.
if they wear thick armor, make sure they don't look too old or have massive beards. If they do, they might be hard to use in meantime. (depends on game, sometimes being attacked twice is still lower damage intake.)

summary: your waifu will most likely be op char.

here is more less fun but solid stuff

archers and mages : Out ranging the enemy is best way of defense. pushing front line is very important. Ties with below.
Tankers: after killing an enemy, take that tile with your armored units. this prevents above from dying from counter-death (Act of character so damn strong, kills enemy with counter attack, allowing it to be attacked multiple times during enemy turn. if they survive, you just saved a turn. But generally your guy will die.)
Luring: Often enemy are placed so that 4-5 can attack a tile at same turn. but if you aproach form direction that is not overlapping, they will come one by one. AI quite often sends them in a wave but still each will arrive at different timing so it is easier to fight. AI does not stop to wait for his allies.
Stay away from suspicious tiles: Often you sit a unit on top of fortress and etc, but to farm exp, you want enemies to spawn from here. problem is the game does not warn you properly, and they act the second they arrive.
Often paladins will spawn from back line, and run 8 tiles up and stab lissa cuz she can't swing axe properly.
Torture your enemy: If enemy has a healer unit, keep them alive. it is easy exp. If enemy does low dmg (1~2) surround it and let him attack you till his weapon runs out. your healers now levels up.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 05, 2015, 05:52:44 am
On another note, I completed Fe 7 , Eliwood's path , without losing any chars...
That last level is wicked, btw, as I forgot to bring a staff to cure the altered states such as berseker that the goddam sorcereres tend to use...
Good thing the dragon is a pushover if you have nils , serra and someone on horseback to bring them out of range.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 04, 2015, 09:59:02 pm
To be fair, the Dragon is quite harder than the final bosses of both Sacred Stones and the Binding Blade (the next and previous entries). It's just that compared to the level in itself is fairly easy. Still, it can hurt you if you're not careful, but well, lowering your guard after all the hell you went through would be very stupid.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 04, 2015, 10:56:44 pm
Congratulations on completing the game. You can now join my secret club of awesome people that have completed Fire Emblem 7.

Tell me all of your thoughts!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 05, 2015, 07:23:13 am
History : Good. It felt classical and simple at the beginning, but it delivered, growing more complex but at a nice pace. It felt like a more realistic, and even dangerous threat than the one in Awakening. Sure, in Awakening you see the Risen prowling around attacking villages, and there are two big wars. But you never feel the threat like you do in FE 7.
Spoiler
Simply, the ambush on Ostia Castle is like Nergal saying : "There is no safe place in this world for any of you". 
Spoiler
And all the drama with Eliwood accidentally killing Ninian. Specially if you had just gotten the A support with them a few chapters before she's taken by Nergal
.

Characters : Likeable, all of them. Plus Axe Lord is best Lord. Hector be praised!  The support part was a it tricky to get , I like the improvement they've made in the newer games (seriously, Serra and Matthew having a 1 growth rate per turn was HORRIBLE for my tactician rank). But then again, Lyn and Kent butchered whatever came near them. Hell, Eliwood couldn't even come near to hector, Lyn and Kent in killing potential and tankiness.

Gameplay: I loved the variety of maps and objectives. Really , Awakening felt really dull in that aspect now that I'm replaying it again. And the presence of siege weapons to be aware of , etc . Really , GREAT.

Difficulty : if you leave side missions aside, it has a nice learning curve. There are a couple of missions which can be specially tricky , like for example the two first in Dread Island . I liked how the side missions allowed you to farm exp and cool items, but also forced you to play very carefully sometimes. The one with Sonia was plain genius.  Compared it  Awakening, in which ,with the exceptions of the DLC maps and a couple more, there was a moment where I could simply steamroll through everything outside from lunatic. Might have to do with how many truly OP chars you get early on in FE:A, but idk.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 05, 2015, 01:17:02 am
Indeed. HECTOR DE BEST!


we need axe lords darnit!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 05, 2015, 06:22:20 am
While FE7 has some plot holes and typical plot convenience, I agree that its story is a top tier one for Fire Emblem. Abandoning the typical world war from the beginning and starting to add some touches is great. What I loved also is how well crafted every story was in the plot: The Bern Royalty arc actually only mattered for one chapter, but it was still developed nicely and with a very good "show, don't tell". Ditto for Arcadia and Pent and Louise. They were seamless, despite the fact that objectively there was little tying them.

Some times you were also given information just for the share fact of letting you know of the setting. Heck, the entire prologue (after Lyn's tutorial) has the history of the 8 Legendary Heroes, despite the fact that you only get half their Legendary weapons and don't really figure in the story (expect for Athos). It's such a brutal comparison with Awakening, where you don't even know where Chon'sin (or why Plegia is rich, or if is Regna Ferox's Arena the capital, or even that Valm exists before chapter 12) is despite that half the chapters in Valm talked about it.

Map Variety was also good, but sincerely that was the standard of FE before Awakening (FE 11 and 12 get a pass due to being remakes of the first games in the franchise). FE6 was actually even slightly better, and Radiant Dawn maps were also good both fairly complex and big (they were the ones that best gave the feeling of "epic battle").
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Napsy NAPS on August 05, 2015, 11:44:26 am
I recently got a hold of FE Awakening after a long time, and I've been playing a bit, enough to be confident in doing a Mounted Unit Only Lunatic run, my first Lunatic run. It was going good until level ups happened. In 3 levels, Robin only got 3 stats boosts, and Chrom got only 5 in other 3 levels. Is lunatic meant to be thi hard?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 05, 2015, 11:57:03 am
I recently got a hold of FE Awakening after a long time, and I've been playing a bit, enough to be confident in doing a Mounted Unit Only Lunatic run, my first Lunatic run. It was going good until level ups happened. In 3 levels, Robin only got 3 stats boosts, and Chrom got only 5 in other 3 levels. Is lunatic meant to be thi hard?

Not really. It should be really fairly easy when you have basics down. Which includes not amassing all the troops to one class. (I did this for fun later, and tried to beat DLC stage with it. generals are impossible to kill even with luna.)
but yeah. as long as you follow general tactics and check through your options to make sure no one dies,
its so easy you only need to reset about 5-7 per mission. mofo paladin reinforcement that likes to stab lissa
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 05, 2015, 09:06:54 pm
Well, if RNG is there to screw you, it will screw you, that's for sure. In general, I played in hard and not tried Lunatic, but from what few I've seen the biggest problems are: reinforcements that will always move and that some skills may simply screw you no matter the strategy. Thanks to pair Up, there is not the problem of FE11 and FE12 where the difference in stats is too big, but as there are way too many factors that depend on RNG it's simply a matter of having patience and resetting.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Napsy NAPS on August 05, 2015, 01:43:08 pm
Oh, I am not really amassing all the troops into one class. This run features mounted units, so dark knights, pegasus riders, wyvern ryders and variatons are fine. The only requisite is mounting something, which to some point, I can see as "easy" and "viable."
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 05, 2015, 05:15:33 pm
Speaking of epic battles... The battle Against Priam...  And that was when I realized just how many people I had...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 05, 2015, 05:30:04 pm
Speaking of epic battles... The battle Against Priam...  And that was when I realized just how many people I had...


this screwed me as well with reinforcements lol. had to position my troops so that my lvl 1~10 place holders are out of range and all the reinforcements attack nah.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 05, 2015, 08:36:17 pm
History : Good. It felt classical and simple at the beginning, but it delivered, growing more complex but at a nice pace. It felt like a more realistic, and even dangerous threat than the one in Awakening. Sure, in Awakening you see the Risen prowling around attacking villages, and there are two big wars. But you never feel the threat like you do in FE 7.
Spoiler
Simply, the ambush on Ostia Castle is like Nergal saying : "There is no safe place in this world for any of you". 
Spoiler
And all the drama with Eliwood accidentally killing Ninian. Specially if you had just gotten the A support with them a few chapters before she's taken by Nergal
.

Characters : Likeable, all of them. Plus Axe Lord is best Lord. Hector be praised!  The support part was a it tricky to get , I like the improvement they've made in the newer games (seriously, Serra and Matthew having a 1 growth rate per turn was HORRIBLE for my tactician rank). But then again, Lyn and Kent butchered whatever came near them. Hell, Eliwood couldn't even come near to hector, Lyn and Kent in killing potential and tankiness.

Gameplay: I loved the variety of maps and objectives. Really , Awakening felt really dull in that aspect now that I'm replaying it again. And the presence of siege weapons to be aware of , etc . Really , GREAT.

Difficulty : if you leave side missions aside, it has a nice learning curve. There are a couple of missions which can be specially tricky , like for example the two first in Dread Island . I liked how the side missions allowed you to farm exp and cool items, but also forced you to play very carefully sometimes. The one with Sonia was plain genius.  Compared it  Awakening, in which ,with the exceptions of the DLC maps and a couple more, there was a moment where I could simply steamroll through everything outside from lunatic. Might have to do with how many truly OP chars you get early on in FE:A, but idk.
Really glad you like the game so much. Awakening is great and I still play it to this day, but FE7 will always be a classic, and I will forever be biased and say it's the best thing. And is that a EliwoodxNinian shipper I spot? I paired them even on my first playthrough as well. I've always found them to be a great match.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 05, 2015, 09:03:21 pm
I don't think is being strictly biased to say that FE7 is the best Western entry in the series. Even in metacritics there's only 4 poinst of difference, which is basically nothing.

I mean, it lacks some things when looking at it now, but it has aged very well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 05, 2015, 10:39:52 pm
Speaking of epic battles... The battle Against Priam...  And that was when I realized just how many people I had...


this screwed me as well with reinforcements lol. had to position my troops so that my lvl 1~10 place holders are out of range and all the reinforcements attack nah.

I have no idea how to approach it... I've tried it quite a few times.

The best I've done was having Donnel and Miriel go distract The far left group of enemies (for about one turn before they died) and everyone else minus Vaike and Lissa, Chrom, Cordelia and Cherche, and Aversa go meet the enemy in the middle.

I had Vaike and Lissa stay as far back as possible, with Chrom a bit closer to the action,  and Cordelia and Cherche meeting the enemy on the right as a stronger set of decoys, with Aversa doing whatever.

It held well until those damned Generals and Priam got to me, in fact, before that, It was at about 26 (the Decoys died), to about 39.

Then it started falling apart when Ike, Alm, Ares, King Marth, and Roy got overwhelmed, and suddenly it was, 36 to 9, with only Vaike and Lissa, Chrom, Robin And Walhart, Aversa, Roy, Tiki and Nah left IIRC

And then Roy, Vaike, Lissa, Tiki and Nah got roflstomped, followed by Chrom, with Aversa, Robin, and Walhart remaining completely untouched over the course of the battle...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 05, 2015, 10:46:05 pm
To be honest, everyone has her team and strategies, and with Awakening which has map and skill customization is very hard to help other without much information.

In my case, when the paralogue of Priam came out I had already had almost everyone at level 20 of their best classes with max stats, so I just made the usual of Severa+Morgan kill everything in one side, Cordelia+MU on the other, and the rest hanging in the center and destroying everything with iron weapons due to their hax stats and skills
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 05, 2015, 10:50:58 pm
To be honest, everyone has her team and strategies, and with Awakening which has map and skill customization is very hard to help other without much information.

In my case, when the paralogue of Priam came out I had already had almost everyone at level 20 of their best classes with max stats, so I just made the usual of Severa+Morgan kill everything in one side, Cordelia+MU on the other, and the rest hanging in the center and destroying everything with iron weapons due to their hax stats and skills

Same here, I even had Robin, Chrom , Cordellia , Donnel, Lucian and Cherche with the Limitbreaker skill (increases caps by 10 points).  So , let's say they didn't stand a chance.

Aversa's paralogue though...was a bit harder with those overleved chars. Luckliy support and dual attacks are broken as hell.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 05, 2015, 10:57:49 pm
Anyhow, my units have stopped picking up weapon drops almost entirely, so I have to use Gangrel's Levin Swords sparingly, which doesn't help...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 06, 2015, 12:14:56 am
To be honest, everyone has her team and strategies, and with Awakening which has map and skill customization is very hard to help other without much information.

In my case, when the paralogue of Priam came out I had already had almost everyone at level 20 of their best classes with max stats, so I just made the usual of Severa+Morgan kill everything in one side, Cordelia+MU on the other, and the rest hanging in the center and destroying everything with iron weapons due to their hax stats and skills

Same here, I even had Robin, Chrom , Cordellia , Donnel, Lucian and Cherche with the Limitbreaker skill (increases caps by 10 points).  So , let's say they didn't stand a chance.

Aversa's paralogue though...was a bit harder with those overleved chars. Luckliy support and dual attacks are broken as hell.

i remember i had to relocate all the skills.

turn 3 and 9 people died with assassination proc.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 06, 2015, 03:22:44 am
I'm getting places, had it down to 4v 25, with at least half of those 25 at around 30-50 percent health, and it was looking good, because I had King Marth, and he can do a lot of damage and use aether almost every attack to keep himself alive, And then My poor Mariya got stomped...

I need Virion to be able to do damage so I can put that long bow of his to work, but he's so hard to level...

If I was to summon a Spotpass character and fight them, I could just summon them right back afterwards, right? Because I'm getting to a point where that's what's going to end up happening, and I don't want to perma kill about 50 strong characters just to get one.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 06, 2015, 04:43:30 am
or train your 50 unloved adorables to be strong as heck :D


youll need it to beat apothec.. or something dlc.

every enemy is maxed that beats your stats that are +10 over the cap.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 06, 2015, 04:48:41 am
or train your 50 unloved adorables to be strong as heck :D

What?

I mean, I'm running out of gold, and I still need to train my weak characters to beat Priam, and the way things are, I might have to fight some of the spotpass phantom teams that you summon from the bonus box,  but I don't know if I can summon them again afterwards or if they perma-die
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 06, 2015, 05:40:21 am
or train your 50 unloved adorables to be strong as heck :D

What?

I mean, I'm running out of gold, and I still need to train my weak characters to beat Priam, and the way things are, I might have to fight some of the spotpass phantom teams that you summon from the bonus box,  but I don't know if I can summon them again afterwards or if they perma-die

phantom teams will spawn back if you trigger the requirement again. normally you use spotpass teams (not efficient, but gives minimal exp) and theres a skill that at 50 lk, u never use up your weapon durability. This skill breaks game with forged weapons. (crap skill at very end game when you have too much money tho. Unless battle lasts ages or the weapon of your choice has less than 20 durability and is unique)

but to farm money right off the bat...

1. dlc 
farm maps aren't that great but eh. its worth it if you think of time you will spend for below.
2. reek boxes
zombies drop stuff too.
3. bandit spawns and etc
thugs drop stuff too.
4. family trip
falchion has unlimited use.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 06, 2015, 07:09:46 am
In general, using reek boxes makes you lose a little of gold depending on the characters and weapons, but if you go with bronze weapons I have more than once gained a net profit.

Also, never bothered with Virion (the only chars I never bothered with were him and Vaike, but it seems Vaike actually turns out decently), simply used Tharja's daughter. Not much of a game for snipers though, compared to previous entries. In my opinion, Heros and generals, which before were very limited due to their movement, turn excellent using pair up. And Pegasus are fairly strong in this game too, so they are perfect for pairing up with one of those and go switching depending on the need.

Also, you can summon spotpass teams again, and no need to be stinky, as there are a lot of of teams there (as a last note, it's not necessary to do apotheosis; it's the same as Lunatic+, fake difficulty to the top).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 06, 2015, 03:36:07 pm
In general, using reek boxes makes you lose a little of gold depending on the characters and weapons, but if you go with bronze weapons I have more than once gained a net profit.

Also, never bothered with Virion (the only chars I never bothered with were him and Vaike, but it seems Vaike actually turns out decently), simply used Tharja's daughter. Not much of a game for snipers though, compared to previous entries. In my opinion, Heros and generals, which before were very limited due to their movement, turn excellent using pair up. And Pegasus are fairly strong in this game too, so they are perfect for pairing up with one of those and go switching depending on the need.

Also, you can summon spotpass teams again, and no need to be stinky, as there are a lot of of teams there (as a last note, it's not necessary to do apotheosis; it's the same as Lunatic+, fake difficulty to the top).

Funny enough, you can nullify your fliers weakness to Bows with one of the DLC skills. It's not all that great, but all of a sudden, your Dark Fliers only have to fear being melee'd by an overleveled Berseker, or one of the Rogues and Redeemers 3 Lords.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 07, 2015, 07:23:17 pm
I want wallpapers with Fire Emblem's waifus! F and Awakening only  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 07, 2015, 08:42:32 pm
I want wallpapers with Fire Emblem's waifus! F and Awakening only  ::)

too bad take it all. ;D

Updated: August 07, 2015, 08:43:51 pm
other half are posted at armors thread.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 08, 2015, 05:01:00 am
Ain't mentioning waifus should be enough to explain what i need?
I want some nice pics on my desktop   :-\ by nice i mean with waifus(not with others :D )
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 07, 2015, 09:01:24 pm
i consider males to be waifus as well. my bad.
Elvis has all girls versions.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on August 08, 2015, 03:08:50 am
I want wallpapers with Fire Emblem's waifus! F and Awakening only  ::)

too bad take it all. ;D

Updated: August 07, 2015, 08:43:51 pm
other half are posted at armors thread.

Morgan always makes my day everytime I remember his pitfall trap support conversation.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 08, 2015, 07:01:39 am
i consider males to be waifus as well. my bad.

They ain't. Stop it  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 23, 2015, 05:08:55 am
there can only be one to rule them all right?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 23, 2015, 06:17:20 am
I need Aqua  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 23, 2015, 07:13:10 am
(http://40.media.tumblr.com/9098e4670ab21efe7acf62db2519fdaa/tumblr_nmvgbmTUfs1ssmn02o1_500.png)

water?

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/984/470/e31.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 23, 2015, 10:08:53 am
Well... i need my, potential, waifu Aqua  8)
As much as possible  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 23, 2015, 01:46:32 pm
Nohr Aqua >>> Hoshido Aqua.

Nuff said.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on August 24, 2015, 01:01:28 am
Nohr Aqua >>> Hoshido Aqua.

Nuff said.
Since I've just started with FE, can someone tell me what the difference is?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 24, 2015, 01:29:33 am
not worth heaving headache over till 2016.


but incase you have one for not knowing,

simply player 1 player 2 color.  great almighty lord gorchy will explain.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 24, 2015, 01:53:04 am
In one scene in Nohr she wears a different, black dress instead of the usual white. It's cool.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on August 24, 2015, 02:01:55 am
In one scene in Nohr she wears a different, black dress instead of the usual white. It's cool.
Is that all?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 24, 2015, 06:29:02 am
I hope there is more in that. At least i expect it...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 24, 2015, 11:52:34 am
I hope there is more in that. At least i expect it...

The dance in the Hoshido version is like " Aqua is sad" .
The dance in the Nohr version is like "I came here to dance the fuck out of you and chew bubble gum, and I'm totally out of gum" .


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 24, 2015, 01:49:20 pm
I hope there is more in that. At least i expect it...

The dance in the Hoshido version is like " Aqua is sad" .
The dance in the Nohr version is like "I came here to dance the fuck out of you and chew bubble gum, and I'm totally out of gum" .

Well yeah. I expect badass waifu in her Nohr version  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 24, 2015, 06:52:37 pm
I hope there is more in that. At least i expect it...

The dance in the Hoshido version is like " Aqua is sad" .
The dance in the Nohr version is like "I came here to dance the fuck out of you and chew bubble gum, and I'm totally out of gum" .

so does themesong change as well?

or is there different track for her theme other than one at the trailer.

I only found 1 version in the album.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 24, 2015, 08:08:56 pm
I hope there is more in that. At least i expect it...

The dance in the Hoshido version is like " Aqua is sad" .
The dance in the Nohr version is like "I came here to dance the fuck out of you and chew bubble gum, and I'm totally out of gum" .

so does themesong change as well?

or is there different track for her theme other than one at the trailer.

I only found 1 version in the album.

Hmmm, I think the song is different, let me check it. At least the one at the moment where the scene happens is different.  It might be different parts of the same theme.


HUGE SPOILERS

I couldn't find others than the ones with the cutscene. Don't watch it, just listen to them

Spoiler
Hoshido
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHBYM5lmg1I

Nohr
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHgyptUfqIA
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 24, 2015, 08:23:45 pm
Let your waifu to live in your desktop  ::)
https://youtu.be/FghPVw_1KJs

Aqua...
Spoiler
(http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/458611/26115709/1428339542497/3DS_FireEmblem_040115_Scrn07.jpg?token=6vSY2hhs5GckO5hIRt19bVaJDaA%3D)
lol i think such waifu is my weak spot  :-\

UPD:
I found spoiler... according  to it, if you want Aqua go for third route..
These damn...bastards >:(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on August 24, 2015, 08:55:14 pm
Please keep the section free of spoilers. Yes there's a big one with Aqua, but precisely because of that is best to let everyone feel it on the game~~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 24, 2015, 09:41:38 pm
Nice. almost everything as well as melody changes completely, tho it has the same frame. I guess album only has the artist's original version then. I'll have to wait for game's OST itself. Nohr prooves itself slightly better than hoshitdo once again! sound of man puking or something was annoying tho.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on September 10, 2015, 08:08:51 am
Got Tiki yesterday.
Spent the whole evening for her leveling up...

FF:A needs more waifu content  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 10, 2015, 10:32:11 am
Got Tiki yesterday.
Spent the whole evening for her leveling up...

FF:A needs more waifu content  :-\


I rather think what it needs Support wise is more Support options.

But what FE:A really needs is a better map and mission variety... There are a couple of good or interesting maps, but most are quite dull, consisting mostly of open fields and the objectives are always the same.

The chapter where you fight in Ylisstol would be so much better if you had to hold the enmies off for 11 turns or something like that, making reinforcements appear next to Validar. You could always go and finish him for some extra rewards, but really, the "Kill all Enemies, Kil the Enemy General" objectives are quite boring most of the time.

The DLC maps at least have some gimmicks, like using the FE7 Final Chapter Map and having the doors to the rooms open sequentially.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 10, 2015, 12:26:43 pm
Got Tiki yesterday.
Spent the whole evening for her leveling up...

FF:A needs more waifu content  :-\

B-b-b-but if FE: Awakening is literally Fire Emblem: Waifus (and husbandos)...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 10, 2015, 07:04:33 pm
Waifu Simulator: Matchmakening
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 10, 2015, 11:34:15 pm
i love inigo!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 11, 2015, 07:14:15 pm
i love inigo!

We all do.
Those who say otherwise are just denying it Severa style.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 11, 2015, 12:04:17 pm
Kjelle is the real hero of the kids' generation. She has the scars to prove it!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on September 11, 2015, 10:56:30 pm
Got Tiki yesterday.
Spent the whole evening for her leveling up...

FF:A needs more waifu content  :-\

B-b-b-but if FE: Awakening is literally Fire Emblem: Waifus (and husbandos)...


If it would be be FF: W i wouldn't say anything about insufficient content for my waifu  :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 12, 2015, 12:55:22 am
Kjelle is the real hero of the kids' generation. She has the scars to prove it!

yup!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on September 11, 2015, 07:43:18 pm
Kjelle is the real hero of the kids' generation. She has the scars to prove it!

"Do you want to know how i got these scars? Actually, it was a stray snapped violin string... But it looks badass anyway!
 Now I look like your average teenage delinquent from an anime!"

(http://i.imgur.com/gY2obuH.jpg)

(Also, that Kjelle. :3)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 11, 2015, 08:14:54 pm
But Kjelle got her's by saving Cynthia. Brady got his for saving...the music industry?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 11, 2015, 08:24:01 pm
Pseh, Kjelle's scars are not visible on her portrait, so that's a minus. A true scar is that which is worn proudly! even if the enemy was a violin
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on September 12, 2015, 06:00:43 am
But Kjelle got her's by saving Cynthia. Brady got his for saving...the music industry?

Pseh, Kjelle's scars are not visible on her portrait, so that's a minus. A true scar is that which is worn proudly! even if the enemy was a violin

Exactly! Brady's heroism is underrated.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 12, 2015, 06:32:11 am
this is how my brady was made and I was so happy.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 11, 2015, 10:31:12 pm
You don't make the best Brady until you give him royal blood! Him being Chrom's son is hilarious even if fairly bad meta-speaking, but only weaklings or players on Lunatic care about that Also, this way you can skip the part of "Pier Emblem: A bakening" Not my original pun, which is a shame as it's fairly good
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 14, 2015, 10:05:26 pm
damn.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 14, 2015, 10:06:35 pm
FE Cardgames FOR THE WEST!!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 14, 2015, 11:06:30 pm
I believe the cards can be purchased from a well-known internet-based shopping site for a (questionably) reasonable price. As for me, I need to acquire a Tharja statue as I foolishly missed the chance on release.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 14, 2015, 11:10:59 pm
I believe the cards can be purchased from a well-known internet-based shopping site for a (questionably) reasonable price. As for me, I need to acquire a Tharja statue as I foolishly missed the chance on release.

crunchy still owes me lucina
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on September 15, 2015, 07:20:45 am
FE Cardgames FOR THE WEST!!!!

Let's play children's card games on motorcycles IN AMERICA!

(Dat Tharja... omigosh! saved)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 14, 2015, 11:29:17 pm
FE Cardgames FOR THE WEST!!!!

Let's play children's card games on motorcycles IN AMERICA!

(Dat Tharja... omigosh! saved)

Fun fact: Bandit Keith was Canadian

And why not Europe? :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 15, 2015, 03:13:25 pm
Play card games EVERYWHERE
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 16, 2015, 12:18:45 am
Spoiler
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1442360294565.png
Spoiler
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1442360294565.png)
is the game like this for real? im lovin it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 16, 2015, 08:29:50 am
Spoiler
http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1442360294565.png
Spoiler
(http://i.4cdn.org/vg/1442360294565.png)
is the game like this for real? im lovin it.
I haven't played it or seen footage with it having english text, but the trailers show Sakura as a really nice quiet girl so I wouldn't bet on it.
Could be, though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 16, 2015, 09:17:22 am
Seems the typical bad dank meme created by 4chan to have some laughs.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on September 16, 2015, 04:19:20 pm
It can be proven as false for one simple reason!

Spoiler
Sakura is a first generation character, while Kinu is a second generation character! First, they cannot support unless mother and child, and then the conversation would be generic. And you can bet your last dollar that they wouldn't give a generic monther conversation to the wife and mother of the fox characters about hating said fox characters! Furthermore, again, the only possible way those two could support is being mother and child... and Kinu's hair doesn't match Sakura's!

I mean, obviously it was fake anyway, but I have the power of LOGIC! Bwahahahahahahaha!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 16, 2015, 04:23:04 pm
The funny thing is that in the third path there are a helluva lot more support options...

And I'm with Elvis: obvious fake is fake, jsut by looking at hair colours. But good job 4chan!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 16, 2015, 04:57:56 pm
but being fake allows imaginations D:
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 16, 2015, 05:01:23 pm
Fanfic is the answer to all problems. It isn't fake, it's fanfic!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 16, 2015, 05:04:32 pm
That reminds me of a certain comic where FeRobin is reading a doujinshi involving Chrom and Lucina, and Chrom's face is like : WTF?!?!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 16, 2015, 05:23:49 pm
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/57/8b/44/578b4427c3e23ae2ae16826839440774.jpg

I wonder what this tome is called...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 16, 2015, 05:44:05 pm
Ewan may know!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 16, 2015, 05:58:51 pm
AmeliaxFranz OTP
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 16, 2015, 06:00:43 pm
AmeliaxFranz OTP

Oh, someone with good taste!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on September 16, 2015, 06:02:14 pm
...ColmxNeimi better OTP.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 16, 2015, 06:02:49 pm
AmeliaxFranz OTP

Oh, someone with good taste!

Just finished Sacred Stones, and of all the supports, those were simply the best from Amelia

...ColmxNeimi better OTP.

Also made that one DUH
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 16, 2015, 06:08:09 pm
Haven't finished sacred stones yet. Should really get on that...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 16, 2015, 06:09:59 pm
...ColmxNeimi better OTP.

true that my friend.

Updated: September 16, 2015, 06:11:35 pm
but i also support seth and eri. Ephraim and eri. Lyon and eri. Ephraim and Innes. Amelia and myself. I can also accept Amelia and Dussel.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 18, 2015, 01:46:46 pm


Updated: September 16, 2015, 06:11:35 pm
but i also support seth and eri.


Seth x Erika is my favourite pairing for Eirika.And Seth.


For Innes I went with A support with L'Arachel : tsundere tactician guy + genki justice girl each boasting who's kingdoms food is better just made it for me.

And I almost forgot Joshua x Natasha .... they make a lovely pair as well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 18, 2015, 01:52:42 pm
I can happily agree with a Seth and Eirika pairing. And Joshua and Natasha while I'm at it. I find L'Arachel just a tad annoying, so dunno what to do with her.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on September 18, 2015, 01:53:38 pm
I can happily agree with a Seth and Eirika pairing. And Joshua and Natasha while I'm at it. I find L'Arachel just a tad annoying, so dunno what to do with her.

L'Arachel reminds me a lot of Cynthia. Or maybe the other way around?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 18, 2015, 01:55:19 pm
I can happily agree with a Seth and Eirika pairing. And Joshua and Natasha while I'm at it. I find L'Arachel just a tad annoying, so dunno what to do with her.

L'Arachel reminds me a lot of Cynthia. Or maybe the other way around?
I can sort of see it. They both have far too much energy!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 18, 2015, 10:08:10 pm
... In my first playthrough I went straight ErikaxEphraim... ( of course, that I was 11 and that the idea of supports as pairing didn't even register in my head probably helped that; in my second playthrough SethxEiri became OTP for me)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 28, 2015, 06:18:29 am
Before making a whole new thread, decided to discuss here for couple posts.

So I wish to make fire emblem THEMED MMOTRPG. why theme?
1. player controlling 7+ unit drags forever
2. player controlling 3 is still drag and hard to coordinate
3. whats fun of having one unit vs army. (in 100% FE system wise)

also why MMORPG? I tried log horizon TRPG and they had a systhem where sessions can be extreamly short to long, but players can join and leave rather freely like getting party members on mmorpg (people seems to use twitter to find partymembers in japan.) and this was done simply by ticket system, gm and players all get loot ticket which they use to earn treasure or level up etc. more you play stronger you get, no wipes unless you wish to (simply load back to certain data of your past you recorded) or make new char.
+ log hora trpg is set on square tile system during combat. sounds like fire emblem.


so some ideas ive been thinking were...
1. stats: follows the fire emblem awakening system.
2. turns: either speed (since late game enemy has 100% accuracy speed stat needs buff) determines how fast you act as well and turns are mixed (like berwick saga or homm) or keep it traditional my turn your turn.
3. player: looking at the map, they will act their turn and update map as result of action/battle. if the player is not acting (if someone finds a way to do this on forum thread system) either gm controls it or player waits on that tile for a turn.
4. skills: was wondering if i should make it player activated, x times per stage or triggers met type, rather than simple RNG. reduces dice rolls and makes game less luck based and most of all player is doing more things.
5. enemy: have fun GM. log hora trpg is same where gm plays strategy game against other players.
6. balancing and death: following log hora, putting cost on player and enemy to evenly match the strengths should be good. each level is 1 pt and promoted is automatically changed to 26 and goes up 19 more times. If you die, based on GM, you simply revive next turn, or you loose gear and levels based on GM, or character dies, unable to join this campaign at all. if GM and player agree, iron mode (or FE term, normal difficulty) is on and ur char is deceased and is deleted.
7. getting stronger: level ups and rare chance of stat item. due to stat item, promoted unit, even if done at lvl 10, treated same as done at lvl 20. for exp, awakening has system that keeps total gained levels. resulting 8 exp per kill late game.

feel free to suggest remove add.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 29, 2015, 05:21:49 am
never done a MMOTRPG before, what do I need/need to know?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 28, 2015, 09:17:03 pm
never done a MMOTRPG before, what do I need/need to know?
idk my self

from Loghora TRPG experience, data of your character and understandings of basic rule is pretty much it.
basic settings can be home brewed by the GM that recruited you and random people join in a quest GM announces that matches their level. get to know each other if you want, GM sets time, gather up, play session for 2~4 hours (with possible couple days if timing is good and scenario is big) and at end of session simply collect tickets and lvl up and etc.

for fire emblem, I am thinking of doing same, because player can have 40+ characters but is only able to deploy 5~11 most of the time, and thought 'kinda like this system anyway'

also i feel bad for GM overworking so this allows multiple GMs (or players being GM as well) perfectly fine without being left out forever and GMs can train their character by GMing as well since GM gets loots too for doing good GM.



also GM = DM if i start using both.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on October 09, 2015, 06:02:17 am
*Fap*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on October 09, 2015, 10:13:31 am
Akio, we are gettin´ cute Mozume with an even more closed and bad-spoken country accent, no need for FeDonnel anymore.
Some people have even done a fan made Voice Over for some of the characters and added it to the English translation patch.

In case any of you feels like taking a peek at support conversations , you might find this link useful. Obvious SPOILER ALERT
Spoiler
Note: some support conversations change depending on the path you take, and the ones for the Invisible kingdom path contain specially high number of spoilers. I've also found out some information on the background of many of the characters, and on some gimmicks and mechanics the devs have implemented in the game to encourage you to play well with a rather drastic risk/reward system.

Regarding the support conversations, they are far more spoiler heavy than the Awakening ones, to the point of some reaching and surpassing the level of the Future Past DLC conversations.

Link to support conversations compilation:
Spoiler
http://pastebin.com/N8VKGxR9
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on October 09, 2015, 12:05:21 pm
Akio, we are gettin´ cute Mozume with an even more closed and bad-spoken country accent, no need for FeDonnel anymore.
Some people have even done a fan made Voice Over for some of the characters and added it to the English translation patch.

In case any of you feels like taking a peek at support conversations , you might find this link useful. Obvious SPOILER ALERT
Spoiler
Note: some support conversations change depending on the path you take, and the ones for the Invisible kingdom path contain specially high number of spoilers. I've also found out some information on the background of many of the characters, and on some gimmicks and mechanics the devs have implemented in the game to encourage you to play well with a rather drastic risk/reward system.

Regarding the support conversations, they are far more spoiler heavy than the Awakening ones, to the point of some reaching and surpassing the level of the Future Past DLC conversations.

Link to support conversations compilation:
Spoiler
http://pastebin.com/N8VKGxR9
Before I destroy my no-spoilers-about-Fates policy by accident, this is spoilers about Fates yes? Not Awakening?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on October 09, 2015, 12:17:08 pm
Akio, we are gettin´ cute Mozume with an even more closed and bad-spoken country accent, no need for FeDonnel anymore.
Some people have even done a fan made Voice Over for some of the characters and added it to the English translation patch.

In case any of you feels like taking a peek at support conversations , you might find this link useful. Obvious SPOILER ALERT
Spoiler
Note: some support conversations change depending on the path you take, and the ones for the Invisible kingdom path contain specially high number of spoilers. I've also found out some information on the background of many of the characters, and on some gimmicks and mechanics the devs have implemented in the game to encourage you to play well with a rather drastic risk/reward system.

Regarding the support conversations, they are far more spoiler heavy than the Awakening ones, to the point of some reaching and surpassing the level of the Future Past DLC conversations.

Link to support conversations compilation:
Spoiler
http://pastebin.com/N8VKGxR9
Before I destroy my no-spoilers-about-Fates policy by accident, this is spoilers about Fates yes? Not Awakening?

Fates Spoilers, yes. It's indicated at the beginning of the doc that the link directs you to. It makes you copy links to access the conversations, so it's quite safe in terms that you don't accidentally spoil yourself anything.

I introduced two spoiler tabs, one for the link, and another one for some information regarding why thespoiler alert is quite important in this case, far more relevant than in Awakening's supports.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 11, 2015, 07:54:02 pm
Confirmed Nintendo Direct  on Thursdays12th of November at 2PM Pacific Time, 5Pm Eastern Time, 11PM Central European Time (if using winter light saving).

They might finally announce the western release date, with a bit of luck it might even be on December or January, as Xenoblade X haves a lot more text to translate and they've managed to do it in 7 months.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 11, 2015, 05:12:29 pm
I saw that, also hoping we finally get some release dates! Though they did say Q1 2016, so it's unlikely to be december
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 12, 2015, 11:22:21 pm
ATTENTION ALL EMBLEMERS!*
This is an official announcement** regarding information gleaned from the latest nintendo direct about our beloved series. As it stands, we cannot find (and indeed there may not BE) a Europe release date for Fates. America, however, is receiving this pure joy on the 19th of February. If you or anyone you know comes forward with source-given, trustworthy information regarding a Europe release date, do not hesitate to post it here STRAIGHT AWAY!!!!

*Yes, I'm double-posting. Yes, it is worth it. It's Fire Emblem, damn it!
**No, it isn't
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 12, 2015, 11:27:42 pm
Okay lads, first the good news for the 'Muricans , and the not so good news for Europe. (But as Lucina used to say, " I challenge my fate!")

US


Release Date
-------------------------

19th February 2016

Price
-------------------------

-39.99$ Dollars for one Physical Version (Nohr or Hoshido)
-Which grants you a 20$ discount on the other one.
+ 3rd Path coming out later via DLC.

-Or get for 80$ THe collector edition with all 3 + artbook + case for your 3Ds

No special New 3Ds editions have been announced so far


Europe

Release Date
---------------------------
 This is the scary part : No Official Release Date. Simply 2016
2016 . Not even Q1. I'm afraid we'll have to wait 4 more months... like with Awakening.

Prices...

Didn't watch EU direct. Let me make an educated guess

-37 - 39.99Euros/26-28 Pounds  for one Physical Version (Nohr or Hoshido)
-Which grants you a 17 -20 Euro/ 13-14 Pund discount on the other one.
+ 3rd Path coming out later via DLC.

-Or get collector edition for 74 - 80 Euros/ 50 - 55 Pounds . Includes all 3  games + artbook + case for your 3Ds

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 12, 2015, 11:34:07 pm
Prices weren't given in the EU one.

They're trying to brace us for the worst, I can feel it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 12, 2015, 11:50:15 pm
I'm going to be extremely pessimistic but taking Awakening publishing dates as a reference..

EU Release Date (My Guess)

June 2016

One whole year to translate it and adapt it . And it will only have minor changes compared with the US version, unless the German USK really goes nuts on this one, which would be strange as it wasn't so harsh with Awakening.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on November 13, 2015, 12:28:15 am
80 dollars ofcourse.


so i can laugh at all the asians who couldnt get it :3

Updated: November 13, 2015, 12:35:01 am
also yal already saw this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN3W-dKUs8I

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 13, 2015, 12:59:21 am
I'm going to be extremely pessimistic but taking Awakening publishing dates as a reference..

EU Release Date (My Guess)

June 2016

One whole year to translate it and adapt it . And it will only have minor changes compared with the US version, unless the German USK really goes nuts on this one, which would be strange as it wasn't so harsh with Awakening.
WAITING UNTIL JUNE?? PLEASE NO!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqrCAcoUZ5s)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on November 13, 2015, 01:05:58 am
Europe

Release Date
---------------------------
 This is the scary part : No Official Release Date. Simply 2016
2016 . Not even Q1. I'm afraid we'll have to wait 4 more months... like with Awakening.

Fire Emblem Awakening was released on February 2013 in the US and April 2013 in the EU and AUS, so I hope we'll have to wait just 2 more months, not 4.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 13, 2015, 01:13:23 am
Europe

Release Date
---------------------------
 This is the scary part : No Official Release Date. Simply 2016
2016 . Not even Q1. I'm afraid we'll have to wait 4 more months... like with Awakening.

Fire Emblem Awakening was released on February 2013 in the US and April 2013 in the EU and AUS, so I hope we'll have to wait just 2 more months, not 4.
....two whole months....? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-o8NHjkGO5o)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on November 13, 2015, 01:57:04 am
Damn it, no official date, and it's only a placeholder... But hell, preorder for the Special Edition made anyway.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on November 13, 2015, 02:07:42 am
well pics of kowashitai are from 4chan so wont be posting here...


but ill say look at fortissimo edition box art for FE#. its good.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on November 13, 2015, 04:09:05 am
Damn it, no official date, and it's only a placeholder... But hell, preorder for the Special Edition made anyway.
Holy Spit Take. :o

EB Games Australia just upped the placeholder price for the Special Edition to $199.95 (https://ebgames.com.au/3ds-208717-Fire-Emblem-Fates-Special-Edition-Placeholder-Price-Nintendo-3DS) (good thing my preorder still shows $99.95). WTF happened here.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on November 13, 2015, 08:53:56 am
Okay, they are going bananas. 100$ is still above the US version, but 199.95 is stupid.


On the EU release, I think it will be between April-June, depending on the number of languages they do translations of. Of course, as Awakening was a big hit maybe they'll try to bring in more languages, but as the big 5 are already accounted for, it would surprise me. Still, if they haven't revealed it it means they probably aren't sure of it.

But yeah, the price is probably going to be 1$=1€=1.4 pounds.


Updated: November 13, 2015, 12:35:01 am
also yal already saw this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN3W-dKUs8I

I don't know how they managed it, but I like all the other characters (even the bland lord or colour NPCs!) above the supposed heroine. It's like the pure embodiment of the worst idol tropes out there, and I like idols!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 13, 2015, 10:04:12 am

I don't know how they managed it, but I like all the other characters (even the bland lord or colour NPCs!) above the supposed heroine. It's like the pure embodiment of the worst idol tropes out there, and I like idols!

I´m not that fond on the crossover either, specially the heroine. Darn, all the other chars seems more interesting. But well, it´s not like I was  likely to purchase it in the first place. Only WiiU exclusive game that is really making me consider getting the console is Xenoblade X (and Bayonetta 2), as I´m not a big fan of either of the HD remakes, or the StarFox reboot.

Really considering getting the US version of FE, as I do have a US 3DS XL. But I´ll wait till they announce an official release date for Europe, as I was actually planning on getting the New 3Ds.



Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on November 13, 2015, 01:00:01 pm
Ofc i cannot hope to have jap dub...  :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on November 13, 2015, 03:03:08 pm
speaking of which, what do you think of censors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLyySrcOtjs

her zippers got replaced to leather pants.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on November 13, 2015, 06:15:51 pm
speaking of which, what do you think of censors?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLyySrcOtjs

her zippers got replaced to leather pants.

Considering that the area covered on the important parts continues being less than a bikini, I think that it's more of a stylistic change than censure


I don't know how they managed it, but I like all the other characters (even the bland lord or colour NPCs!) above the supposed heroine. It's like the pure embodiment of the worst idol tropes out there, and I like idols!

I´m not that fond on the crossover either, specially the heroine. Darn, all the other chars seems more interesting. But well, it´s not like I was  likely to purchase it in the first place. Only WiiU exclusive game that is really making me consider getting the console is Xenoblade X (and Bayonetta 2), as I´m not a big fan of either of the HD remakes, or the StarFox reboot.

The worst is that I actually like a lot some of what they're doing. Really, a game with stage-like battles and has a main focus on the entertainment world with genuine idols? It has lots of potential. But then the heroine is basically a Haruka clone that can only spout cheesy one liners and rely on the main hero while looking at him yearningly.

Well, that and that it seems the Mirage are simply useless fanservice, without their memories. And they gave precisely Sheeda, the seemingly innocent but actually almost manipulative and political princess to the main heroine?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on November 14, 2015, 04:26:29 am
Okay, they are going bananas. 100$ is still above the US version, but 199.95 is stupid.
Going by current exchange rates, USD $80 = AUD $112, so AUD $100 not entirely unreasonable.

Anyway, I'd expect the $199.95 tag to just be a placeholder to scare off the scalpers. But still, it just looks utterly ridiculous. :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 20, 2015, 11:21:33 am
And finally, I finished Radiant Dawn (on normal difficulty). 

The game does have it's flaws and some ridiculous difficulty spikes, specially on part 1, the Radiant Brigade section in part 3 and the infamous third and fifth part of "endgame", adding  to it that you a bombarded with a lot of shitty characters (Meg, Fiona, Astrid, Illyana get's a heavy nerfbat as well,Leonardo) in an already exp starved game, and it's hard to recognize on the first run which are completely and utterly useless.

But the art design, third tier promotion, returning characters and narrative were quite good, plus you get the very best villain from the series ...and imho one of the best lords. The character development of some members of the cast is also remarkable, and the map design + "defend from a cliff" combat mechanics give the game a lot of new options to play and win a battle.

After playing the Tellius games, I kinda understand why the art direction and map objectives from Awakening got so much flak. Don't get me wrong, I love the art and character design form Awakening and fates, but it's true that some classes armors, specially on females, look ridiculous. I also think they did a better use of most of the villains, the Black Knight in particular, and the story had a fair share of political intrigue and conflicting interests, even amongst playable characters who are even forced to fight each other.

Things I wont miss though:

-The brutal number of enemy units on each map. Remember those DLC maps in Awakening that faced you against 50 with only 12 units on your side? Get ready for 70 + vs 12
-Reinforcements popping out of multiple sides and even your spawn point, some of them being able to attack on the very same turn they spawn
-Bloody OP dragon laguz. Engame part 3 can go fuck itself forever.
-A starter team that hasn't a single unit until much later on that can take 3 hits without dying and that screws you over with character availability at times (like , all of a sudden, that unit that you had in the previous chapter and would be awesome to have in the next one, simply doesn't go because ..reasons?).
- The games throws a lot of underleveled and mostly useless units at you. And I don't mean it as some weaker unit that turns out to be brutally good later on, or that works differently. I'm talking about knights with pegasus knight growths, but still suffering from low speed caps. Or lvl 10 units that have worse stats than your starter character had at level 3.
- Lack of real support conversations and the low number of  paired/companion endings
- Laguz gauge system vs dragonstones/beastsones
- The final boss, with it's bullshit range-changing , muting and global map attacks.
- Lack of good class balance. Mages are pretty much useless in this game, for example.


Thing's I am going to miss if they don't appear in future FE games:

-Such good armor designs for Wyvern Knights and Fighters , plus them being bloody awesome. They should make the actual art designer and the one from the Tellius games work together on the next FE
-The Soldier-Halberdier-Warden tree. Fates is getting something similar, but it would be nice that you could either go Mercenary-Hero or Soldier-Halberdier in future games.
-The varied objectives and map designs. All castle battles were a blast to play.
-The writing was a step up from Path of Radiance
-The diversity and alltogether looks of the laguz. If they used beaststones or worked more like their royals, I would take them anyday over the tagel. I'm heavily biased here, bloody motherfucking Tibarn just looks awesome and saved my team's butt  many times.
-Galdr > Dancers
- We need more female characters that are like Titania and  Jill: badasses in heavy non-fan-servicey armor. I'm not including Mia or Nephenee as we did get quite a few good swordmasters and we're getting Mozume that is like mixing Donnel and Nepheene. 'Em country lasses really know how to kick some asses.
- Canto. As in, cavalry units can still move after attacking if they have any remaining movement points left. Makes them much more dangerous and versatile , while keeping foot units better in terms of stat caps. (toned down galeforce)







Fav characters:
- Haar.
- Jill.
- Mia. Kneesocks and awesome stats. What more do you want?
- Vanguard Ike
- Nepheene
- Boyd remains the best silly-and-boasting axe user I've seen so far.
- The Black Knight
- Shinon, and snipers having multiple 1-3 range bows.
- Tibarn
- Naeshala



TL,DR: while you wait for Fates, give the game a try. I would play Path of Radiance first though.That way you get to know the characters and the world  of Tellius, plus you can transfer capped units to make them a bit better in RD, and whatever supports they had, as they do change character interactions and endings.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on November 20, 2015, 09:50:53 pm
Oho, with this you only have Shadow Dragon left on the localized ones, right Titor? Welcome to the "cool" club!

On Radiant Dawn, did you by some case play the USA version? In the USA version the difficulties were switched around, so hard is actually normal, easy is normal, etc

In the PAL version, except for some of the cases you mentioned, thing were never as grave. And most characters weren't that bad? I had Illyana in my final team (you remember those dragons? well, they're toast now) even if she was not as good as in PoR, and both Leonardo and Astrid served me well for a time (they were kinda bad, just not unusable). And mages ruled, at least for me: Soren murderized everything, and Sanaki and Micaiah could do surprising damage if you took care of them (and as I said, dragons+Illyana=toast). I mean, they weren't Haar, Ike or Shinon (god, those three broke the game as much as any of the laguz kings...), but they did well in my army.

On RD writing, I don't agree that much. While some of the villains were very good, the senators felt like a step-down, specially compared to PoR (really, after playing RD you realize the only thing similar to a cackling villain we had was Ashnard and maybe the mad scientist, and he was one of those that were awesome for it). The writing also was also kinda jumpy, it went from one place to another, skipping some parts at light speed while at others crawling like a snail. The war came a little out of nowhere, and some of the plot jumps became almost ridiculous (super-secret hidden laguz kingdom here! Super secret contract that can kill an entire country there!)

Yes, it's true, the plot itself and the lore revealed were awesome, but 75% of that was already established and foreshadowed in PoR, and I felt that overall PoR's writing was a lot more smooth and thoughtful. Probably PoR was at the beginning supposed to take care of all its plot points, but due to shifting from portable to console the development was likely troubled. RD felt too many times like simply dumping "Here is this awesome development we hinted at PoR", instead of trying to execute it more gracefully.
Spoiler
I mean, seriously? "Ike, you remember the BK, that guy you killed? Well, he is alive and he's Zelgius." "K, thks, bye."

Also, while the number of enemies were brutal, the "epic battle" stages were also incredibly awesome. I did not mind fighting against 70 enemies in half of those scenarios, with a number of allies to help you and all the ups and down, walls, etc. I mean, while some in the last part were too long, I find the majority of them in part 3 to be simply be a lot of fun.

On the rest I agree. The design were very cool (I don't mind the change on the characters themselves, but the armours were fairly worse), and Canto has always been one of the greatest skills; fairly subtle but devastating. Is a shem they also constantly have to take it away because they never manage to balance things adequately (whenever we have Canto, cavalry classes are always slightly better, whenever we don't the inverse happens).

PS: Also, I've been hearing FE 7 OST again, and it maybe my nostalgia speaking, but I really find it extremely outstanding, specially for a GBA game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 20, 2015, 10:49:54 pm
I did play US version, but I doubt it was really on hard. I mean, the BEXP wasn't that scarce, I managed to train Edward more less fine . But I got totally rng screwed wit Ilyana , she ended up having more str than magic, and almost zero speed. I also think Endgame chapter would have been easier if I had gone all away picking more Laguz Royals, so I'll simply blame my skill for the difficulty spikes.

And about the mages being bad, I just got the feeling that with a couple of exceptions (Soren and Sanaki being two of them), they were very lacking in speed growths, making them not so good offensively except for very specific enemies.

Again, I wasn't bothered by the number of enemies the whole time, I liked it in maps that made sense them being a lot more than you, but some maps in part 1 *the one where you recruit useless Fiona, for starters* or maps that consisted on routing enemies and reinforcements kept on spawning until you managed to kill the boss, felt a bit tiresome at times.

Hell, the one ambushing the Coalition army was awesome, and also the defense/last stand in the castle after Pelleas reveals 
Spoiler
how to break the bloodpact
is plain cool. All of Elincia's /Geoffreys maps are solid as well and of course, the Greils Mercenaries maps are a blast to play.

I've been thinking of playing shadow dragon, and the remade sequel... but then again, I've heard they're not as good, and man..those graphics ... WHy couldn't they use the cool FE6-8 sprites :(

But I will finish them before Fates comes out. Maybe
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on November 20, 2015, 11:46:14 pm
Shadow dragon is nice... If you think of it as basically and HD port of the NES game. However, it's challenging and probably has one of the tightest gameplays on FE (I remember sweating on not having enough exp for everyone). While the objectives aren't varied, the maps truly are, the lunatic there isn't bullsh*t like the one in Awakening, no, and even normal has more than one spot where you can sweat buckets.

Oh, and while in RD it was more of a matter of growing them, in Shadow dragon 90% of the characters you get are in fact completely useless. Also, as a personal pride I completely ignored the gaiden chapters: no matter how useless those guys are, I'm not going to let them be slaughtered just to get some extra chapter.

On other good things, I genuinely liked the translation a lot: while the game is very classic, having it been in an English (or in my case Spanish) purposely thought to remind you of classic plays and books enhanced it a lot more than what I thought it was possible. Oh, and the music is also very nice (I doubt there's even one FE with a weak OST)

The sequel is a lot better, and has a fan translation patch, but I've actually don't have it. Everything I heard points to some good things, though it seems some of the flaws seen in Awakening also start to appear there.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on November 21, 2015, 03:37:15 pm
Well, I'm giving Shadow Dragon a try. Just finished the prologue (playing in normal difficulty because I'm a scrub)  and I see they really love the "kill X unit to advance" kind of thing. And just by looking at the huge amount of cavaliers I'm getting FE7-8 vibes , as in : "How many paladins should I have? ALL OF EM!"

Hope I don't fuck up after the Tellius games, I've got far too used to using Canto ...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on November 21, 2015, 06:37:32 pm
Shadow Dragon is a lot of fun, in my opinion. Has it's flaws, sure, but playing Hard 5 in that game was incredibly satisfying. Sure, I had to resort to a walkthrough most of the time because my skills weren't quite up to par, but it was still very enjoyable. I specifically remember a map that had several ballista, making it incredibly difficult to recruit one of the characters, not lose mine, and get to the villages that might have existed, before the enemy just completely overwhelmed me. Also, one chapter in which I was stuck for about two weeks, as I needed a Warp staff to get everything, but really didn't want to start over to get one. And then realized one of the enemies on the map had one, and felt stupid. ...and now I'm wanting to replay Shadow Dragon.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 11, 2015, 12:05:25 am
Finished Shadow Dragon on normal. Before you ask, yes, I abused the crap out of the arenas.

 The gameplay was enjoyable, and even though the map objectives are not very varied, I found the map design to be good.  But darn, the lack of support conversations is kinda tough . There is little to no place for character development for the great majority of the cast, aside from Marth, Caeda and other plot relevant characters.
Roster I used:

-Marth (duh)
-Shiida aka Caeda ('cause pegasus knights that can promote into wyvern riders are awesome)
-Cain (aka Kane, "Peace through power!")
-Abel
-Frey <----- Proof that I completed it on normal mode, otherwise he get's rekt on the prologue
-Ogma
-Barst
-Lena
-Julian
-Sedgard
-Merric
-Linde
-Tiki
-Elice


I'll try and see if I'll find a working rom and a translation patch for FE12, to see Marth's story to the end and...check if it's true that the avatar character is so bad as 80% of the people at serenes forest forums seem to think.





Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 11, 2015, 12:08:31 am
i wanna hug tiki and nephenee!


also gj beating the game. so ur tiki is alive... ;)

the game forces you to murder peeps to get new waifus. shame system
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on December 11, 2015, 12:16:22 am
To be fair, Serenes Forest seems to hate everything about the series at some point or another. And, congratulations on beating the game! Also, using Barst. Best character that has zero lines, ever! Also, Tiki.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 11, 2015, 12:21:23 am
i wanna hug tiki and nephenee!


also gj beating the game. so ur tiki is alive... ;)

the game forces you to murder peeps to get new waifus. shame system

Yeah, I didn't feel like sacrificing anyone to get the gaiden characters.Did sacrifice Jeigan though because of the following reasons:
- bad growths
- unecessary on normal mode
- Not Seth
- Not Titania
- Not a butler
- Not kawaii

 And of course Tiki ended up alive! Tiki is too cute to kill.  I looked for the requisites in advance to make sure I didn't end up killing her. That's all the use I gave Bantu.  I challenged her fate!   We will sacrifice one of the generic scrub level mercenaries/axe users instead if needed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 11, 2015, 11:31:24 am
kinda spoiler i guess but here is what i did to tiki


Spoiler
i murdered tiki with my bare hands, marth's hand covered in blood like eliwood.

good thing I had staff. 
Spoiler
I got nagi and tiki. a lovely reunion!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on December 11, 2015, 08:47:59 am
kinda spoiler i guess but here is what i did to tiki


Spoiler
i murdered tiki with my bare hands, marth's hand covered in blood like eliwood.

good thing I had staff. 
Spoiler
I got nagi and tiki. a lovely reunion!

Oh, I was tempted to do the same, but in the end thought it was too much of a bother and was kinda afraid that I would make a mistake somewhere and end with nothing. My Aum staff ended without being used...

Oh, and good work on beating Shadow Dragon, though how much do you mean by "abusing" the arena? I played it on the DS, so I used it only 3/4 times in the stage it was in. Overall though EXP was precious so I don't rebuke you for abusing it, specially without the gaiden chapters.

However John, I haven't seen any of the pegasii sisters in your team. I would be outraged if I didn't already know how much you suffered by going through the game with only a competent flier during all of it, and it being Caeda. Catria was so much better than her that it wasn't even funny; I had to give Caeda the upgrade to Falcon Knight so that she had at least some niche and could still be on my team.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 11, 2015, 09:01:50 am

However John, I haven't seen any of the pegasii sisters in your team. I would be outraged if I didn't already know how much you suffered by going through the game with only a competent flier during all of it, and it being Caeda. Catria was so much better than her that it wasn't even funny; I had to give Caeda the upgrade to Falcon Knight so that she had at least some niche and could still be on my team.

I really abused the arena. More like 10-20 battles with 4-6 characters every map there was one. I think Lena made it to 20/20 before chapter 18, simply out of the 10 exp points she got each time she healed one of the dudes in the arena. Linde got to level 16 on the map she join at level 1, for example.

I didn't end up using the pegasi sisters as much, which I kinda regret, then again Caeda got rng blessed on the wyvern knight phase and leveled str one point each level up, so she ended up hitting like a truck. 20 str, 23 speed 18 def Caeda was like having a flying barst but with higher skill and speed.

There really were a couple of maps where they might have been specially useful, but for the most part I managed nicely with 3 paladins, a horseman/bow knight and caeda (and an ocassional warp staff).

If I recall correctly , I did use them in maps with a lot of magic users (the desert map and Gharnef's base), but I only ended up promoting Catria  out of the three.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 11, 2015, 05:47:07 pm
i abuse heal exp alot.

specially enemy healers. surround them with 6 beefy guys
they heal each other as we beat them . free exp at fullest.

most benefit is weapon rank rising tho.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on December 11, 2015, 10:14:23 am
I didn't end up using the pegasi sisters as much, which I kinda regret, then again Caeda got rng blessed on the wyvern knight phase and leveled str one point each level up, so she ended up hitting like a truck. 20 str, 23 speed 18 def Caeda was like having a flying barst but with higher skill and speed.

STR: 26, SPD:23, SKLL: 26, DEF:22

I'm just going to leave the natural stats (not being lucky or unlucky) of a promoted Catria do the talking for me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 15, 2015, 10:21:55 pm
Looks like at thsi rate we will get Kamui/Corrin in Smash before the game is released in EUrope..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbL6ALc9Dj8
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 15, 2015, 10:38:43 pm
"Big brother became big sister!"
R63 noted. We'll be round shortly.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 15, 2015, 11:05:20 pm
Looks like at thsi rate we will get Kamui/Corrin in Smash before the game is released in EUrope..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbL6ALc9Dj8


so basically roy. (he also showed up in smash earlier than the game)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 15, 2015, 11:09:41 pm
Looks like at thsi rate we will get Kamui/Corrin in Smash before the game is released in EUrope..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbL6ALc9Dj8


so basically roy. (he also showed up in smash earlier than the game)

Yep.


GIMME THA FAKIN RELEASE DATE ALREADY!!! I'M RUNNING OUT OF FE GAMES TO PLAY!!!

*Just started 12. So far the support thingy and char development is done better than in SD. Difficulty is nice.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 15, 2015, 11:13:01 pm
>best buy still says game released on dec 31st of 2016


keep up the work -_-
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 15, 2015, 11:16:13 pm
After thorough mental trauma, I've decided I am actually hyped for Corrin. Sakura's VA was what put me off, but then I remembered some of her other lines later on, so I've half-forgiven her for it. Whoo!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 15, 2015, 11:28:27 pm
so according to asian news, reason fates got CERO C is not cuz of gay love, nude baths with each other, massaging people, costume play etc, but apparently


'we judges found Camilla's intro scene to be too perverted and erotic.'
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 15, 2015, 11:29:33 pm
That the clip from the trailer? I haven't looked into the game beyond what official trailers have shown
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 15, 2015, 11:31:50 pm
yeah. where she holds her arm out to you. in game its supposed to be bit more extended but... what does she do pole dancing? XD

she is 2nd most popular char in female cast vote tho. kamui (f) got 1st place.

kamui (m) got 5th
place in male cast and LEON GOT 1ST IN MALE WOOOO
NOHR FTWWWWW

lobsterbro is 6th in males.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 15, 2015, 11:35:39 pm
....I really need to learn the names of these people. I know Corrin, Camilla, Sakura, Leon and Marx.

P-p-pole dancing?! I don't remember that part! Time for a rewatch maybe?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 15, 2015, 11:40:08 pm
Leon is a bloody aweosme character. And he's bloody awesome and sly in all 3 routes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on December 16, 2015, 01:05:01 am
Looks like at thsi rate we will get Kamui/Corrin in Smash before the game is released in EUrope..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbL6ALc9Dj8
I'm honestly more excited for OMFG IT'S BAYONETTA!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 16, 2015, 01:11:21 am
Looks like at thsi rate we will get Kamui/Corrin in Smash before the game is released in EUrope..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbL6ALc9Dj8
I'm honestly more excited for OMFG IT'S BAYONETTA!!!

We all are! Who isn't?!?!

But I thought mentioning the Roy-deja-vu feeling I'm getting with Corrin and FE:Fates for PAL regions  would be a good excuse to jump onto the big stuff. I totally didn't see Bayonetta to be hte ballot winner, I'm glad she did, we need more PLatinum games characters in smash!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on December 16, 2015, 01:48:31 am
But I thought mentioning the Roy-deja-vu feeling I'm getting with Corrin and FE:Fates for PAL regions  would be a good excuse to jump onto the big stuff. I totally didn't see Bayonetta to be hte ballot winner, I'm glad she did, we need more PLatinum games characters in smash!!!
On that note, preorder for Bayonetta, Roy and Corrin Amiibo placed. 8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on December 16, 2015, 06:54:54 am
On that note, preorder for Bayonetta, Roy and Corrin Amiibo placed. 8)

Oho, Mike, you sly, we already know why you are so excited about Bayonetta...

Jokes aside, I actually found the sister's voice better than I expected, and actually was deceived by both big Brothers. I mean, they sounded almost the same and kinda soulless? I hope they're better in the game, because for what we saw in Trailers Fates also had phenomenal male seiyuus, and it would be sad to pass on the hard part (sisters with animu tropes) and faceplant on the traditional characters (honorablu knight and samurai) they're supposed to do well without extra effort.

Well, besides that, they have clearly released him to promote the future game and despite some of the whining I think it will have a fairly positive effect. But yeah, we at EU we will have to continue waiting: Luckily, I've been so busy lately a month has passed and I barely realized it!! HAHAhahaha...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 16, 2015, 08:13:49 am
Luckily, I've been so busy lately a month has passed and I barely realized it!! HAHAhahaha...
Really? Wow yeah, how did that happen?
The Ryu and Roy amiibos were announced a couple of months ago so that came as no surprise, but a Corrin amiibo? NOW you have my attention, Nintendo. Must. Get. All. Fire Emblem. Amiibooooss!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 16, 2015, 05:10:12 pm
NOW you have my attention, Nintendo. Must. Get. All. Fire Emblem. Amiibooooss!!!

FE amibos grant the characters in Fates. And I don't know if it's via Amiibo or DLC, but you can get some of their classes , such as Ike's vanguard, Marth's Lodestar , Lucinas' Master Lord/Great Lord and ( I'm not sure about this last one) Grandmaster from Robin.



Well, besides that, they have clearly released him to promote the future game and despite some of the whining I think it will have a fairly positive effect. But yeah, we at EU we will have to continue waiting: Luckily, I've been so busy lately a month has passed and I barely realized it!! HAHAhahaha...

I'm gonna guess it was a mix of final term exams, and completing SC.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 16, 2015, 12:34:44 pm
I knew it brought the characters in, didn't know about the classes though. I have all the fire emblem ones currently out, but I spy moaaarrrrr
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on December 16, 2015, 09:05:04 pm
I knew it brought the characters in, didn't know about the classes though. I have all the fire emblem ones currently out, but I spy moaaarrrrr

I cannot purchase figurines, family would judge me and I'd bring great dishonour to my cow, forcing me to leave the country and never return until I save the world from a great disaster and acquire socially acceptable hobbies.

Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnw_9PIkyGE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pnw_9PIkyGE)



...that or I don't have a good place where to put them. Maybe I should buy some display cases ...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on December 16, 2015, 09:20:24 pm
Really? Wow yeah, how did that happen?
I'm gonna guess it was a mix of final term exams, and completing SC.

SC? I haven't even touched it. My steam copy at least though

The answer is actually Assignments, assignments, assignments and papers. I've got at least one written assignment weekly that requires me 3 to 4 hours to resolve (if everything goes well) and 2 hours (sometimes 3) to write in a neat, decent report-like way (well, the later part is half my fault as I use LaTeX to do it while handwritten would take a little more than an hour, but my handwritten work is really messy), and some others that may appear some week or another (another subject, the first one is sacred), just as long if not fairly easier. Just that and it would still be OK, a little overloaded but nothing too bad, but then there are Papers. I like reading and I like Physics, but they're incredibly dry and dense, I need like 20 minutes for 3 pages only to both read and understand what is said. The god-blessed ones have around 30 pages, but some surpass the 100. And then synthesize everything in a 15 minute presentation.

October was actually more or less fine, but November and December so far have been horrible, with 2 partials and 4 presentations, plus the weekly assignments and entirely different assignments that also popped up on November. It's not entirely bad, I've had one week where I was fairly more free and it luckily coincided with my birthday (of course, while fun that was also something that made me a little busy), but of these last 6 weeks I only remember one where I wasn't constantly worrying over "Will I have enough time for this and that, and those and...?"

So yeah, sorry for the rant (feel better taking it all out). Some of my classmates actually have it way worse, and in a way it's actually my fault because I've overloaded a little my first semester in order to have an easier time on the second, but overall I've been busy.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on December 29, 2015, 11:24:47 am
Alright guys!

Illusory Revelations aidoru song track is out!

01 [untitled] 02 Reincarnation by Yoshino Nanjo
03 [untitled] 04 Feel by Inori Minase
05 [untitled] 06 BLACK RAIN by Yoshimasa Hosoya
07 [untitled] 08 Dream☆Catcher by Ayane Sakura, Inori Minase
09 [untitled] 10 Beastie Game by Sumire Morohoshi
11 [untitled] 12 Dear☆Majo!Sweet♡ Kiria Ver by Yoshino Nanjo

total of 6 songs and 6 10 sec voice of character... warm up chant i guess.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on January 16, 2016, 03:07:48 am
I pre-ordered Fire Emblem Fates: Conquest and Birthright.  Now I just need to wait until around this time next month for them to release here in America
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on January 16, 2016, 12:21:44 pm
Release date in Europe is still unknown...  :'(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 16, 2016, 08:40:22 pm
Release date in Europe is still unknown...  :'(

Aye. A moment of silence for us poor release date-less people
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on January 16, 2016, 01:09:59 pm
Release date in Europe is still unknown...  :'(

Ye... they are not fond of Europe.
I though can play american version, but i'm planning to stick with euro to avoid possible issues with dlcs or any other downloaded content
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 16, 2016, 02:35:24 pm
Release date in Europe is still unknown...  :'(

Ye... they are not fond of Europe.
I though can play american version, but i'm planning to stick with euro to avoid possible issues with dlcs or any other downloaded content

I do have a 'Murican 3DS , but I'm kinda pissed about the delay...
The euro loc teams don't start working ubtil teh nglish version is finisbed or the process/paperwork takes longer because they have to convince the german rati g agency that FFS , there is no need to censor anything and that it should start worrying about other stuff?

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 16, 2016, 02:39:23 pm
get confirmed on 50 states (actually just esrb prolly)   vs   get confirmed on 50 nations (unless EU has some unified stuff for games too, but prolly not)


also bestbuy still says my fire emblem arrives on 12/31. :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 16, 2016, 02:42:23 pm
get confirmed on 50 states (actually just esrb prolly)   vs   get confirmed on 50 nations (unless EU has some unified stuff for games too, but prolly not)


also bestbuy still says my fire emblem arrives on 12/31. :(

Someone call Merkel , Putin or Cameron and tell them to demand a Febr 13 Euro release date , or that we will all stop consuming japanes H content from now on and go for the chinese and taiwanese alternative.

Sometimes you got to get rough with things that matter.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on January 16, 2016, 02:55:56 pm
get confirmed on 50 states (actually just esrb prolly)   vs   get confirmed on 50 nations (unless EU has some unified stuff for games too, but prolly not)


also bestbuy still says my fire emblem arrives on 12/31. :(

Someone call Merkel , Putin or Cameron and tell them to demand a Febr 13 Euro release date , or that we will all stop consuming japanes H content from now on and go for the chinese and taiwanese alternative.

Sometimes you got to get rough with things that matter.

Well you might as well try to tell Nintendo to get off with region lock.
Of course you can avoid with homebrew but who knows what issues you might have with online content due to that ???
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on January 16, 2016, 03:29:01 pm
get confirmed on 50 states (actually just esrb prolly)   vs   get confirmed on 50 nations (unless EU has some unified stuff for games too, but prolly not)

Some countries have their own rating systems (e.g. German USK system).
The PEGI system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pan_European_Game_Information#Where_PEGI_is_used) is commonly used, but legislative basis about it is rare even in the countries that support it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 27, 2016, 08:35:14 am
First they're censoring Soliel's Support because "omg gay conversion", now Nintendo is removing the Touch minigame?
*sigh*
Nintendo, when will you learn that the perpetually outraged brigade don't have to be your audience, and that they were never really your customers in the first place?

At least Sekai Project is on the ball (https://twitter.com/sekaiproject/status/692063916554194948) over this, lol.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 27, 2016, 08:51:20 am
Such a bitter disappointment. Might be time to invest in some imported copies as well...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 27, 2016, 12:43:40 am
I would be upset, but I honestly forgot the feature existed entirely.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 27, 2016, 08:54:26 am
It's basically perversion simulator at best anyway. We don't need it.

But we still wanted it. A little bit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 27, 2016, 09:17:05 am
What annoys me is that it's an entirely optional feature for interacting with the characters, the likes of which also appears in games like Project Diva and Project Mirai. Not interested? Just ignore it entirely... It's not like you're basically forced to hold it sideways and literally fap to it like Monster Monpiece, as part of the key gameplay mechanic.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on January 27, 2016, 01:15:21 am
You can't headpat waifus in Fates but you can do this (http://i.imgur.com/VGASFaE.gif) in Pokémon-Amie?

Srsly, Nintendo... ¬¬
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 27, 2016, 09:27:50 am
You can't headpat waifus in Fates but you can do this (http://i.imgur.com/VGASFaE.gif) in Pokémon-Amie?

Srsly, Nintendo... ¬¬
Funny thing is, it's exactly the same thing in this one ^.^ I'm sure I saw a gif of someone doing that to Camilla around...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on January 27, 2016, 01:49:46 am
What annoys me is that it's an entirely optional feature for interacting with the characters, the likes of which also appears in games like Project Diva and Project Mirai. Not interested? Just ignore it entirely... It's not like you're basically forced to hold it sideways and literally fap to it like Monster Monpiece, as part of the key gameplay mechanic.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

wat.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 27, 2016, 02:19:25 am
wat.
Refer to GIF image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Monpiece

(It's part of how you level up cards in Monster Monpiece.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on January 27, 2016, 02:57:04 am
wat.
Refer to GIF image: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Monpiece

(It's part of how you level up cards in Monster Monpiece.)

Wat?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on January 27, 2016, 11:27:19 am
Your lord sees Nintendo of America is at it again.  Gorchnik is so glad he knows Japanese and owns a Japanese 3DS along with his American version.  Having the best of both worlds is always so nice.  Guess Gorchnik can cancel his 2 special edition pre-orders as well.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 27, 2016, 03:22:48 am
Wat?
Am I doing a poor job in explaining the context?

P.S.
Hell, Tomodachi Life lets you tap and rub the characters' heads. Maybe that should get censored next. (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on January 27, 2016, 03:27:16 am
Wat?
Am I doing a poor job in explaining the context?
  • The touching game in FE If/Fates is quite tame (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHRjnTVQ_Ug), and entirely optional (Not interested? You don't have to use it).
  • The touching game in Monster Monpiece is rather blatant (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monster_Monpiece#/media/File:Monster_Monpiece_gameplay.gif), and basically mandatory (Want to progress in the game? You have to use it).


NO, no no... I saw the gif, I understood all that... just why the fapping-movements? why? Just why?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on January 27, 2016, 12:07:29 pm
Honestly it's not a feature I care about, and it won't stop me buying, playing, and enjoying the game at all. I think that this feature is a little stupid, but harmless, and see no reason why it either should or shouldn't be there. It's a gimmick. However, I don't like when content gets removed.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 27, 2016, 04:14:14 am
I wonder if it'll be replaced with something else to make up the points you could get from it. I certainly wouldn't mind some extra conversations between characters, or somethin' like that... though I doubt they'd go to the trouble of doing that much.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on January 27, 2016, 04:17:13 am
I wonder if it'll be replaced with something else to make up the points you could get from it. I certainly wouldn't mind some extra conversations between characters, or somethin' like that... though I doubt they'd go to the trouble of doing that much.

they better or I'll slap a bitch/
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on January 27, 2016, 12:28:25 pm
Not likely. They'll spend time and effort to dummy out a feature, but not to replace it with something else to make up for its non-inclusion.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 27, 2016, 05:24:51 am
P4G also had feature cut out cuz they cant voice act a voice actor.

and for this its not even on youtube cuz sega and atlus does copyright run often.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 27, 2016, 07:04:49 am
...Oh well, I found the petting stuff a little silly from the beginning, but it's rather irritating they have to remove it for us because, I don't know?

To be honest, contrarily to some other expected removals, like for example the whole Soleil thing (though I'm a little angry how they felt the need to announce it specifically, they did greater rewrites in Awakening without telling nobody, so if they wanted to be sure they could do the same here too and not announce it specifically, like if the pair of idiots who thought stupidly about gay conversion without even worrying about context were right) I don't get quite the reason to leave it out?

I mean, hardcore FE fans will cry and all, but we're also going to buy the game like if it's nobody's business (and if we got turned off, it will be for other things besides a silly petting thing), while the waifu crowd adores the feature. And the mainstream buyers wouldn't even know if it's in or not, and likely would at most laugh at the silly minigame.

So, it really feels strange. It's also not like it's something really racy or like that. At most Camilla's or similar characters, but that could have been solved lightly reworking the whole thing (for example only putting shoulders up). Either they are being very lazy, or fairly stupid.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 27, 2016, 07:24:46 am
Mm, spending nearly four hundred dollars in total for the sake of the game, and the news hasn't shaken my resolve in that decision at all. I get why some people are a bit more bothered by it- all in all, the feature never needed to exist, and it isn't something I think anyone would ever specifically asked for. However, it does exist, and there are people that see it and think, 'wow, I want to do that!', and other people who merely feel like 'it exists, so it should be in my version of the game'. Neither of those is wrong, as the first is exactly what the people that wanted the feature included were hoping for, and the second is just matter of opinion. But, they removed it. Maybe it would hurt sales somehow to leave it in. Maybe it would hurt sales just as much, taking it out. Either way there will be some level of controversy. This is merely the path they decided to choose. Now, I'll try and find the reset button so we can take the other path, instead.

Though I admit I'd never be comfortable enough to use the feature in public/around anyone else at all anyway. And probably wouldn't get much of anything out of it in private. I mean, that's what I have actual porn for. To be entirely honest, I've never completly understood 'ecchi'-based things in games and anime. For the most part it just means I can't share those things with the more prude-ish people I know (literally everyone I know offline) without them looking at me funny, and, again, generally looking at porn does the job better than those things.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on January 27, 2016, 03:53:30 pm
I don't really like ecchi stuff myself, but some people do. Not gonna judge them for it, that's their thing, and it isn't hurting anybody. I'm in the camp of "It exists, so it should be there." However, as I said before, I also think it's a stupid gimmick and I won't miss it. It won't stop me buying the game, but it does make me ask 'why this specifically?' I'm told that there are worse things in the game, and hell, you can get married to your adoptive siblings, apparently. So why this? It just doesn't strike me as consistent, I suppose, and rather silly. Also, courting controversy for the sake of controversy.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on January 27, 2016, 04:49:25 pm
I really hope they ain't going to cut off fanservice for waifus....
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 27, 2016, 06:12:53 pm
I really hope they ain't going to cut off fanservice for waifus....

I doubt they'll do much:

- Animations? No way , too much work to change it.
- Designs/Outfits?  Maybe in the 3D model , but they won't change the art of the CGS.  <--- To be true, I wouldn't mind them female armored designs some pants, some awesome armor designs get ruined on promote because of this.
- DLC Cgs? Maybe some tactical curtains, but I doubt it, Camilla aside, they are all pretty tame
- Ages of the characters: This might go up a bit, specially for Elisse, Midoriko , Mozume, Sakura and some of the very child-looking chars.
- Support/Conversations/Personalities?  They will surely change some of them, but mostly to adapt it to western humor/memes/culture.  Even the Soleil support, which was completely misunderstood, will get a little change in the B part. I doubt they'll really change the main script/idea of any of them
- Personalities? Pieri might be toned down a bit, and maybe Zero....Niels might not do as many innuendos.
- Wouldn't mind them adding more support options for a couple of the so called Kamui/Corrin Sexuals

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 27, 2016, 07:05:25 pm
im personally on side of abusing SJW crap for this,

so im gonna buy game and advertise to others how great the game is.

then tell them nintendo censored LBGT stuff like before, unlike their announcement to be more 'gender equivalent'

(tho I am against such SJW going 'this game only has males sexist gg  or  no asian nazi game confirmed)

tl;dr  i prefer nintendo earning money then get talked shit cuz owners feel cheated for loosing contents rather than boycott from start. Won't make too difference but faster way of changing average gamers POV.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 27, 2016, 08:13:13 pm
im personally on side of abusing SJW crap for this,

so im gonna buy game and advertise to others how great the game is.

then tell them nintendo censored LBGT stuff like before, unlike their announcement to be more 'gender equivalent'

(tho I am against such SJW going 'this game only has males sexist gg  or  no asian nazi game confirmed)

tl;dr  i prefer nintendo earning money then get talked shit cuz owners feel cheated for loosing contents rather than boycott from start. Won't make too difference but faster way of changing average gamers POV.

It's the problem when people try to bring political and sociological views into a game, specially when, like in 90% of the cases people make a fuss about something, is due to a misunderstanding of an unofficial statement brought totally out of context.

I hate that kind of thing as well, but I tend not to make a fuss about it. New types of gamers are entering our now large community, it's just fair to expect not all of them are going to be as open-minded.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 28, 2016, 11:39:37 pm
There is this "rumor" , hasn't been confirmed, and we all know kotatsu is not something very trustworthy... but they say Skinship has been removed (the petting people thing).


http://kotaku.com/the-english-version-of-fire-emblem-fates-wont-have-the-1755121353 (http://kotaku.com/the-english-version-of-fire-emblem-fates-wont-have-the-1755121353)

While the English version of Fates still includes many relationship-building activities by way of robust castle functionality, Nintendo confirmed to me that petting is 100 percent out. It’s unfortunate, given that moments of physical intimacy are so rare in games, especially as a means of building character relationships. The rep explained, defending the original intent of the Japanese version:

“Yes, that is the case [that petting isn’t in the English version]. You might have heard somewhat misinterpreted or exaggerated information about the Japanese original game, but even in the Japanese original version, we have not included any features which are considered inappropriate in Japan.”



Personally, I think it's just someguy trolling.



I hope it's not true, not because of the feature itself, but I'm kinda tired of buying full-priced games that have some features removed with nothing added to fill the gap, specially when it's about some peoples sensibilities on optional content, or that fan translation is more robust than the official releases in the West *Looking at you, more than a few VN's* .



Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 29, 2016, 03:29:35 am
Thank you for contacting Best Buy.

I am sorry to hear that the estimated release date of your order is on this coming December 2016.
Let me provide you options.

On that note, Since it's the system that is giving the turn around time of the product of the item and I'm afraid that we don't have any chance on changing it.
What we can do is to cancel the order and give you a refund.

We will wait for your response.

---

bestbuy what just give me the fire emblem fates on February what do you mean i have to cancel it
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on January 29, 2016, 11:46:21 am
So, it really feels strange. It's also not like it's something really racy or like that. At most Camilla's or similar characters, but that could have been solved lightly reworking the whole thing (for example only putting shoulders up). Either they are being very lazy, or fairly stupid.

You never could pet or touch anything below the shoulders anyway. Even in the original version.  For taller characters you would ser their chest/bust section but even if you poke it with your styles absolutely nothing happens.  The only area that provokes a response is the hair, face, and neck.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 29, 2016, 06:51:55 am
You never could pet or touch anything below the shoulders anyway. Even in the original version.  For taller characters you would ser their chest/bust section but even if you poke it with your styles absolutely nothing happens.  The only area that provokes a response is the hair, face, and neck.
I had seen some chest in some of the models, so I thought maybe they had introduced something, even if only [email protected] jokes. However, if this is right, then I don't even understand... ? I mean, it's not like the rest of the game is pure-clean. It seems extremely arbitrary. Has there been some kind of trick or something I've been missing?

Something I've too though about is that it could also be some cultural differences? Some Americans I've seen call the concept of petting your step-sibling (as in "petting" family) as "creepy". While I know my family is slightly clingy, I've petted my little brother hundreds of times (even if sometimes only to annoy him), and I've seen plenty of other people do similar things.


Personally, I think it's just someguy trolling.

Some people contacted Nintendo to confirm it. And they got a "We've not announced this yet". The moment they choose to not officially deny it, is the moment almost everyone took it as confirmed. Of course, there's still the chance they've simply been idiots, but it grows dim with every passing day. It has been a hot topic this past days with a fairly big amount of controversy; if it really was only a rumor then Nintendo would have went all the way trying to deny it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on January 29, 2016, 04:52:45 pm
I think i'm going to wait up with buying FE:if just in case
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 29, 2016, 06:43:35 pm
To be certain, the thing that pisses me off the most of the potential (again, it hasn't been confirmed and even though as Marx said, nintendo's answer can be interpreted as a "We are going to remove it, but we haven't done th official announcement yet" , I think it's more of a  "Ignore those buds, wait for our official announcement at the beginning of february, we're to busy playing XCOM2 and getting ideas for a FE game spinoff set in the future )"removal of the minigame is the following:

1st: Some of the phrases the characters said revealed important stuff from theirbackground that isn't shown in the support conversations
2nd: Will have to grind more to get the support levels, and with some characters, don't wanna spoil it, it will afffect availability.  + Buddy sealing everyvody into path-locked classes with MU


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 30, 2016, 04:07:37 am
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE


so vids are coming out for fire emblem illusory i guess
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 30, 2016, 12:41:05 pm
Spoiler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE


so vids are coming out for fire emblem illusory i guess

I can agree with the comments that this is the bestworst thing ever. I'm really impressed; on one hand the courage, passion and simply balls needed to do something like this is awesome. On the other hand, well, a little too cringe-worthy? I mean, I eat cheese like this anywhere and utterly love it, but I thought the game wanted me to take it seriously...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 30, 2016, 08:58:50 pm
Ahh I saw this XD
Too busy enjoying how weird it was to hate on it. It made me laugh so I approve!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 30, 2016, 03:12:59 pm
from play video the combat seems pretty fun, (combined SMT and FE system)

and I still like kowashitai.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 30, 2016, 04:24:24 pm
It's interesting that Shinmegami X FE was initially planned as crossover Strategy RPG and eIS pretty much said to ATLUS : "That would be boring, really, go nuts , make a FE how you would make one of your own RPGS .

But yeah, aside from being a bit cringey at times, that video is epic xd
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 30, 2016, 05:39:04 pm
I suppose part of the conflict is the franchise thing. I mean, it's been long since I've stopped seeing it as having any direct relation with SMT, but with FE the relation is more explicit, heck, even the song is probably a transcription from the original theme voice for FE6.

If it was completely on its own then I think I could safely embrace it as incredibly fun, cheesy, campy and awesome. Yeah, a little cringey, but that's par of the course. But it's trying to be FE too, and that creates a small conflict for me.

I mean, I've cried with FE games. I cried with FE7, a little with FE8 and a fair lot with Path of Radiance. After I grew older I just enjoyed most of them, but even Awakening had some touching moments and wanted to be treated seriously. Oh, and then there's FE4 and FE5 with their wonderfully understated narrative, but I would need to make a wall of text just explaining what I love about them. So, all in all, I'm a little conflicted with it.

Despite this, I hope the scene in context is a lot stronger. I mean, P4 Dance was similarly ridiculous, but within context things managed to fit well (and the final battle seemed similar to that, and they managed to pull it off), so I hope the same happens here.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 30, 2016, 05:47:42 pm
They also technically changed the theme from SMTxFE to ATLUSxFE  now.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 05, 2016, 07:15:51 am
So, it seems the 'skinship' feature hasn't been quite as 'removed' as people expected (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRknFRt5wOU). You don't actually touch the screen anymore, but literally everything else seems to be intact.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 05, 2016, 08:39:23 am
... Wow. On one hand I want to laugh, but on the other NoA really seems to be bad at marketing and expressing themselves...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 05, 2016, 08:48:19 am
Fates available for PreLoad.

Rumor: No Dual Audio in US version, accoding to gameplay video in youtube
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 05, 2016, 09:31:22 am
Not sure if we'll get dual audio or not- though I personally hope so, even if I'd likely mostly use the English. Either way, for those interested, who don't mind some spoilers, you can find some videos with the English voice acting, here (https://www.reddit.com/r/fireemblem/comments/436zxt/fire_emblem_fates_english_voices_compilation/). Personally really like Nishiki's, especially that laugh~ Nyx, though... not sure whether to be upset she doesn't sound mysterious or sophisticated, or happy that she actually sounds like a loli. Not that she ever looked like one in the first place. Though, honestly, considering how much I like Rika, I admit, the idea of her looking like she does, yet sounding entirely mature, was something I'd have liked.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 05, 2016, 05:41:11 pm
pre load huh....

hopefully mine arrives in time
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 05, 2016, 06:25:00 pm
NA already has pre-load?
Suppose i can find out if i should buy EU version from you all :)

p.s. no jap dub, waiting for undub then....
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 06, 2016, 07:36:02 am
NA already has pre-load?
Suppose i can find out if i should buy EU version from you all :)

p.s. no jap dub, waiting for undub then....

Maybe if we raise our pitchforks they'll add a patch with the original voices...which were awesome.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 06, 2016, 05:55:08 am
NA already has pre-load?
Suppose i can find out if i should buy EU version from you all :)

p.s. no jap dub, waiting for undub then....

Maybe if we raise our pitchforks they'll add a patch with the original voices...which were awesome.

i kinda doubt it will work...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 10, 2016, 01:11:39 pm
Sooo..

They revealed some stuff about the whole "Private Quarters" thing  + some localized names on some review videos.

-Skinship is out, but you can still invite people, talk to them, enjoy tge Live2D models and raise support. Only the petting is out.

-The petting feature seems like it will be available for your spouse, + the hilarious waking up game. (Rub gently or falcon punch, the choice is yours)

-Swimsuits and baths are untouched

-Looks like they made some good localization adaptations. Izanna has been given a real humorous and sarcastic tone,  and the saddists on each side have been adapted quite nicely , which is nice.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 10, 2016, 01:21:51 pm
Aw... skinship was kinda cute  :-\

p.s. and yet no info about euro release
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on February 11, 2016, 02:55:54 am
Aw... skinship was kinda cute  :-\

p.s. and yet no info about euro release

US: Fire Emblem in February, Bravely Second in April
EU: Fire Emblem in April, Bravely Second in February
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 11, 2016, 05:20:29 am
Wow Gorchik, you're kinda useful!
Thanks
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 11, 2016, 08:31:59 am
Aw... skinship was kinda cute  :-\

p.s. and yet no info about euro release

US: Fire Emblem in February, Bravely Second in April
EU: Fire Emblem in April, Bravely Second in February
Source for Eu dates?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 11, 2016, 05:46:06 pm
Aw... skinship was kinda cute  :-\

p.s. and yet no info about euro release

US: Fire Emblem in February, Bravely Second in April
EU: Fire Emblem in April, Bravely Second in February
Source for Eu dates?

I made a similar guess, saying that Fates would come out when Bravely came out in the US, so that they don't overshadow each other. Both are quite time consuming jrpgs...

Seems reasonable enough to be true.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 11, 2016, 08:39:37 pm
Aw... skinship was kinda cute  :-\

p.s. and yet no info about euro release

US: Fire Emblem in February, Bravely Second in April
EU: Fire Emblem in April, Bravely Second in February
Source for Eu dates?

I made a similar guess, saying that Fates would come out when Bravely came out in the US, so that they don't overshadow each other. Both are quite time consuming jrpgs...

Seems reasonable enough to be true.
It's my theory as well, but the sooner we get official confirmation the better. And it's totally not fair that it's this way round!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 11, 2016, 09:05:53 pm
Aw... skinship was kinda cute  :-\

p.s. and yet no info about euro release

US: Fire Emblem in February, Bravely Second in April
EU: Fire Emblem in April, Bravely Second in February
Source for Eu dates?

I made a similar guess, saying that Fates would come out when Bravely came out in the US, so that they don't overshadow each other. Both are quite time consuming jrpgs...

Seems reasonable enough to be true.
It's my theory as well, but the sooner we get official confirmation the better. And it's totally not fair that it's this way round!

Yeah... still, Bravely Second looks bloody awesome. Sad that they're not going in the Rock Opera direction for the music.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 11, 2016, 09:20:07 pm
The beta came out today. I shall play it this evening
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 12, 2016, 06:04:59 pm
In europe i have bravely second beta...
Like i need this trash when there is supposed to be FE  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 17, 2016, 06:01:35 am
Seems like someone also worried about harmful localization  ::)
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=60728f
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 17, 2016, 09:13:13 pm
Ill have to see VA list again for voice change, assuming it will only be worth it if i can do VA jokes. (cant understand most VA jokes atm in pixiv)

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 19, 2016, 06:28:50 am
I literally just got FE Fates (Rebirth and Conquest, for reasons, even though I know I could have gotten one and DLC of the other for cheaper.) I did save exactly $1000 with my purchase (receipt said "You saved $999.99 Today" and I got a penny back from preordering.)  ^-^
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 19, 2016, 07:57:59 am
*check mail*


*We fixed your order! it won't be arriving on december 31st.*

*But we are having trouble shipping so see you in march 14th.*


literally every pre order game is delayed. (last one was final fantasy zero collectors edition. delayed by 5 months.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 19, 2016, 09:18:32 am
Had my dled edition, but had to go to work. Managed to hear the english version of the intro song though....

Rena Strober did an awesome job , and from what I've heard , there other songs are even better.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 19, 2016, 09:44:30 am
Stay calm...stay calm...stay calm...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 19, 2016, 12:22:56 pm
Lucky you
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 19, 2016, 07:01:09 pm
cant stay calm

cant stay calm

Updated: February 19, 2016, 08:19:25 pm
friend down the street got it why not me -_-

Updated: February 19, 2016, 11:30:04 pm
Hey I have question


is phoenix mode possible in lunatic +++ stuff?

I feel like it is going to be interesting, instead of playing it like fire emblem, play the game like world in conflict or any other reinforcement system games. send your characters off to death to keep the front lines and have them reinforce next turn.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 20, 2016, 05:27:49 am
Ok undub is already made guys.
If anyone has homebrew you can try it out
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 21, 2016, 01:03:38 am
cant stay calm

cant stay calm

Updated: February 19, 2016, 08:19:25 pm
friend down the street got it why not me -_-

Updated: February 19, 2016, 11:30:04 pm
Hey I have question


is phoenix mode possible in lunatic +++ stuff?

I feel like it is going to be interesting, instead of playing it like fire emblem, play the game like world in conflict or any other reinforcement system games. send your characters off to death to keep the front lines and have them reinforce next turn.

Phoenix mode was not available to me when I chose Hard Difficulty on the Nohr Path.  And about reinforcements, don't worry, they're not hte bullshit from Awakening or FE11-12 that could attack just as they appeared.

Then again, the game is hard enough as it is ....  Fair. But hard...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 20, 2016, 06:28:44 pm
enemy having turn after reinforced was top bs so if they fixed that this game is already good for me lol.


bestbuy did special delivery so its in my area now so it might arrive in few hours, tho its saturday so i think school postal service is closed for next few days.

also bestbuy sent 20 dollar gift card as apology. square enix can learn from this :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 20, 2016, 10:05:40 pm
enemy having turn after reinforced was top bs so if they fixed that this game is already good for me lol.


bestbuy did special delivery so its in my area now so it might arrive in few hours, tho its saturday so i think school postal service is closed for next few days.

also bestbuy sent 20 dollar gift card as apology. square enix can learn from this :P

Best of luck!

And that's a nice detail coming from them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 21, 2016, 03:27:27 pm
Well now i'm waiting for all your impressions you lucky USA bastards  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 21, 2016, 04:28:38 pm
Well now i'm waiting for all your impressions you lucky USA bastards  ::)

Since it's not a spoiler (Like, written on the box.), I can say Damn, that's a rough spot to be in.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 21, 2016, 09:01:33 am
I still have to wait until I get home from class Monday to get my copy, as UPS is a bunch of dicks that won't deliver until the estimated delivery date, even if it could be delivered before then. I was all excited when I got my shipping confirmation on Thursday, but dispite it showing up in the next town over Friday night, they just left it sitting there all day, and since UPS doesn't deliver on Sundays, I have to wait until Monday. It's agonizing to know it's so close, yet not be able to have it... It must be terrible for places it's not out yet.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 21, 2016, 09:05:22 am
I still have to wait until I get home from class Monday to get my copy, as UPS is a bunch of dicks that won't deliver until the estimated delivery date, even if it could be delivered before then. I was all excited when I got my shipping confirmation on Thursday, but dispite it showing up in the next town over Friday night, they just left it sitting there all day, and since UPS doesn't deliver on Sundays, I have to wait until Monday. It's agonizing to know it's so close, yet not be able to have it... It must be terrible for places it's not out yet.
You said it, buddy.

Forget not out yet, I'd settle for just knowing when that'll be at this point!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 21, 2016, 10:41:30 am
Well now i'm waiting for all your impressions you lucky USA bastards  ::)

Since it's not a spoiler (Like, written on the box.), I can say Damn, that's a rough spot to be in.
I don't mind spoilers and what's so rough about having Fire emblem finally  ???
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 21, 2016, 01:54:09 pm
Well, feel free to ask any questions, at least concerning the Nohr chars and gameplay, I'm quite a bit in already and can more less give you an idea of how it is.

But well, let's start with some general stuff.

Gameplay wise:
-Pairing up is not always the best option. It's the safe bet, but it can really screw you, since a lot of classes and weapons appmy stacking debuffs to hp and stats
-The enemy will aleays try to fight in groups to make sure it can double attack you and benefit from the increase hit and avoidance blnuses
-All this makew tge game more challenging, but far more strategic and not so dependant on RNG. It's a blast to play,

Map design
-Map design and varias d objectives are a huge step up from awakening. Some of the maps are amlngst the best I've seen in the series (and I've played and completed every game from FE7 till Awakening, including the SD and NME remakes



-Characters: at least the Nohr are very likeable, and are not so fixed to the stereotypical troupe. You do get a lot of them, and being Nohr, you will have to choose. However, none of the chars are so to say, unusable. It's more a case of some having better availabilith while other need more gold and exp invedtment than others.

Before you ask, the Killager has a perfect recruitment chapter, and due to how exp works, you are better off giving her 6 levels there than earning a maximum of 3 spread amongst yojr army.

And the personal skills add quite a bit of verdatility and uniqueness to every unit.


Voice Acting:

Some voices might be harder to get used to if you have listened a lot to the JP voices, but most of them are spot on. Azura's songs are brilliantly brought to english, Saizou sounds like Solid Snake, Arthur sounds like your stereotypical 50's super hero, and Setsuna and Dia sound like they were high the whole time.

My castle:

Welcome to the FE:FATES initiative, commander.

Nah..not really, but it's a nic hub, allows for personalization, some shousing simulation etc, and it's the key to improving your arsenal lf weapons, restocking items and rubbing waifus


You can visit other peoples castles to get resources or items, fight them and raise support levels, weapon ranks , exp and even purchase skills (only the first and last point apply in the Nohr Route, but then again, none of us here is a casual Hoshidon't weeb miko fetishist, right?)


Feel free to post any questions
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 21, 2016, 02:51:37 pm
I'm interested mostly in comparison with FE:A.
Plot-wise and waifu-wise.

For gameplay part i'm kinda sure that's going to be win, but i'm curious about "dark" story.
Is it the same FE or really something new and dark?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 21, 2016, 03:13:32 pm
If you're posting plot points, please put them in spoilers. Some of us do not yet wish to know >.>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 21, 2016, 04:18:26 pm
You can visit other peoples castles to get resources or items, fight them and raise support levels, weapon ranks , exp and even purchase skills (only the first and last point apply in the Nohr Route, but then again, none of us here is a casual Hoshidon't weeb miko fetishist, right?)

I personally got the Special Edition because it give all three games, though I will indeed be going Nohr first. I figure I need to preemptively defend my honor though, lest my later Hoshido run raise question and tarnish my glory!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 22, 2016, 01:19:02 am
Well now i'm waiting for all your impressions you lucky USA bastards  ::)

Since it's not a spoiler (Like, written on the box.), I can say Damn, that's a rough spot to be in.
I don't mind spoilers and what's so rough about having Fire emblem finally  ???

No, to be in the spot of having to pick between the nation where you grew up, and the nation where you were born.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 22, 2016, 04:29:36 am
if you look at the game features advertised there is spoiler to that choice too.

also im going hoshido so i get story done fast then make PVP team on nohr side.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 22, 2016, 06:56:00 am
Well now i'm waiting for all your impressions you lucky USA bastards  ::)

Since it's not a spoiler (Like, written on the box.), I can say Damn, that's a rough spot to be in.
I don't mind spoilers and what's so rough about having Fire emblem finally  ???

No, to be in the spot of having to pick between the nation where you grew up, and the nation where you were born.

To me it seems to be obvious. You have been raised in nohr, so priorities should be obvious  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 22, 2016, 07:17:09 am
Well now i'm waiting for all your impressions you lucky USA bastards  ::)

Since it's not a spoiler (Like, written on the box.), I can say Damn, that's a rough spot to be in.
I don't mind spoilers and what's so rough about having Fire emblem finally  ???

No, to be in the spot of having to pick between the nation where you grew up, and the nation where you were born.

To me it seems to be obvious. You have been raised in nohr, so priorities should be obvious  :-\
I agree, but only assuming he doesn't remember his time in Hoshido. If Nohr raised him as family and he grew up with them as family, then that's the relationship he has with them regardless of whether they are blood related or not.
Awakening spoiler but never can be too careful
It's basically exactly what Robin did; turn his back on Validar and side with his new family instead. Robin chooses Nohr route, so you should too!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 22, 2016, 07:54:02 am
btw  just to double check.

if you pick birthright you cant go conquest no matter what right?

So I should play birthright first then make new save and play conquest to have my pvp team have nohr chars.

idk how 3rd campaign works with previous two so double checking. My collector edition should be here within 20 hrs
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 22, 2016, 08:06:02 am
Birthright is the easier of the two games anyway, so I'd start with it if you're planning to play both.

No idea with regards to 3rd campaign saves.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 22, 2016, 02:53:44 pm
Birthright is the easier of the two games anyway, so I'd start with it if you're planning to play both.

No idea with regards to 3rd campaign saves.

I'm getting the Special Edition (aka all 3 games together), so I'm planning on playing each of them at least once, but I'm still going to start with Conquest rather than Birthright. But that doesn't really matter if my game doesn't show up when it's suppose to. Hopefully I'm home when it gets to my house.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 22, 2016, 03:59:15 pm
Btw does SP includes all 3 campaigns or only 2 main?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 22, 2016, 04:03:14 pm
Special edition is all 3 I think
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 22, 2016, 04:28:35 pm
Hopefully i can get euro FE:I SP then...

3ds sucks with its region locks even when i have hacks to avoid it(no download content  :'( )
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 22, 2016, 05:50:53 pm
Hopefully i can get euro FE:I SP then...

3ds sucks with its region locks even when i have hacks to avoid it(no download content  :'( )

As I recall, the Special Edition is all three on a single cartridge. Mine is suppose to be on the way (the tracking says it went out for delivery almost 7 hours ago, so hopefully I'll have it soon), so I'll let you know for sure once I get it. Unfortunately, regional differences can be pretty severe with some things, so even if the NA version is all three combined, it may not be the same with EU release.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 22, 2016, 05:55:48 pm
Hopefully i can get euro FE:I SP then...

3ds sucks with its region locks even when i have hacks to avoid it(no download content  :'( )

As I recall, the Special Edition is all three on a single cartridge. Mine is suppose to be on the way (the tracking says it went out for delivery almost 7 hours ago, so hopefully I'll have it soon), so I'll let you know for sure once I get it. Unfortunately, regional differences can be pretty severe with some things, so even if the NA version is all three combined, it may not be the same with EU release.
No, i doubt that they would make different version for EU.
It is most possibly copy-paste of US i hope.

Regardless i still need to wait a lot.

I can play US games as of now, but i will not able to get any patches or updates or dlcs and no online content
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 22, 2016, 06:37:54 pm
My internet connection is quite shaky at the moment , so you will have to wait until the weekend for a proper post, but let's go with some brief answers/

Plot:
-Children stuff was better done in Awakening
-The story has some issues trying to meld together "player avatar" and giving him/her his/her own personality. The biggest issue...without wanting to go into spoilers...is that Hoshido and Nohr are not morally grey for the most part. Hoshido is "glorious pacifist goodie-two-shoes nippon" and Nohr is "barbaric genocidal western Europe", and what a flip Corrin's personality has in each route.
-Marx will surely flip a table or two at some of the plot devices, that put the RD Blood Pact to shame. PS: Just beat RD on HARD with all the paired endings btw, and this time I did nurse Ilyanna to be the ultimate dragonslayer.

- Siblings ,specially the male ones, play quite an active role in the story and are well developed characters.
- Story includes decisions and bonus objectives that affect the "fate" of some of your playable characters.It really gives you that extra "kick" to make you want to play it right.
- The plot does deal with darker themes , has it's fare share of tragedy , and it doesn't go for the "happily ever after" as much.
- Have I already said that some of the characters aside from the siblings are MOTHERFUCKING AWESOME?!?!
- The decision part really weights heavily and it's brilliantly implemented in the later chapters as well. This could mark the beginning of a more dynamic storytelling in the Fire Emblem saga, without going to much into the VN area.

Waifu wise:
-Maids and mikos, dancers and bersekers, lolis and keekis, psychos and danderes, tsunderes of all kind, a pair of hawt ice cold assasins, A to F cups, kitsune's , wolftsunes, gothic lolitas, tomboyish soldier types, elegant nobles and himederes as well as more lewd, kinkier and suggestive nee-sans. And incest, for those who like it.  Hmmm, I think it's a sincere improvement from Awakening. For those who enjoy good supports and character dev, there are also quite a few good choices. Also, yuri.

-Oh, and the husbando department is freaking golden as well. Waaaaaaaaaay better than in Awakening IMHO. No homo, but homo is an option as well.



-
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 22, 2016, 06:59:06 pm
found this while googling,

about my question on 'end game pvp team path'

Spoiler
While the packaged games see you taking sides in the war, this third campaign has you picking neither, instead gathering forces from both armies to fight the true enemy.

This third path, while functioning like a “true end” kind of deal, does not require you to have played through both Birthright and Conquest, so fear not.


-----
sounds like 3rd campaign is the way then..?
I'm also hearing that if you pvp alot and grind in mycastle you can get everything but will have to see.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 22, 2016, 07:06:17 pm
My internet connection is quite shaky at the moment , so you will have to wait until the weekend for a proper post, but let's go with some brief answers/

Plot:
-Children stuff was better done in Awakening
-The story has some issues trying to meld together "player avatar" and giving him/her his/her own personality. The biggest issue...without wanting to go into spoilers...is that Hoshido and Nohr are not morally grey for the most part. Hoshido is "glorious pacifist goodie-two-shoes nippon" and Nohr is "barbaric genocidal western Europe", and what a flip Corrin's personality has in each route.
-Marx will surely flip a table or two at some of the plot devices, that put the RD Blood Pact to shame. PS: Just beat RD on HARD with all the paired endings btw, and this time I did nurse Ilyanna to be the ultimate dragonslayer.

- Siblings ,specially the male ones, play quite an active role in the story and are well developed characters.
- Story includes decisions and bonus objectives that affect the "fate" of some of your playable characters.It really gives you that extra "kick" to make you want to play it right.
- The plot does deal with darker themes , has it's fare share of tragedy , and it doesn't go for the "happily ever after" as much.
- Have I already said that some of the characters aside from the siblings are MOTHERFUCKING AWESOME?!?!
- The decision part really weights heavily and it's brilliantly implemented in the later chapters as well. This could mark the beginning of a more dynamic storytelling in the Fire Emblem saga, without going to much into the VN area.

Waifu wise:
-Maids and mikos, dancers and bersekers, lolis and keekis, psychos and danderes, tsunderes of all kind, a pair of hawt ice cold assasins, A to F cups, kitsune's , wolftsunes, gothic lolitas, tomboyish soldier types, elegant nobles and himederes as well as more lewd, kinkier and suggestive nee-sans. And incest, for those who like it.  Hmmm, I think it's a sincere improvement from Awakening. For those who enjoy good supports and character dev, there are also quite a few good choices. Also, yuri.

-Oh, and the husbando department is freaking golden as well. Waaaaaaaaaay better than in Awakening IMHO. No homo, but homo is an option as well.

-
Hearing "Way better than Awakening" makes me so happy, because it's probably my favourite ever game. I SHALL BUILD SOME MORE HYPE
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 03:28:41 am
Still it misses dragon loli  ::)

Though well, if it is really such big improvement over awakening then i'm going to play it quite a lot  8)

Spoiler
Considering they my favourite waifu is going to live only in 3 route i might be a bit sad  :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 22, 2016, 07:24:51 pm
found this while googling,

about my question on 'end game pvp team path'

Spoiler
While the packaged games see you taking sides in the war, this third campaign has you picking neither, instead gathering forces from both armies to fight the true enemy.

This third path, while functioning like a “true end” kind of deal, does not require you to have played through both Birthright and Conquest, so fear not.


-----
sounds like 3rd campaign is the way then..?
I'm also hearing that if you pvp alot and grind in mycastle you can get everything but will have to see.


Spoiler
Yes, that's one of the things that takes away from the other stories...how that route seems to be the "cannon" one and have the best of all the endings. PLus you get to use...pretty much any character from both routes (some of the Nohr units arrive way to late, though). Gameplaywise though, I've heard this route get the most flak. Haven't played it yet, will probably leave it for last .


And to DUke:

It's more that there are more characters in total and there is more variety in design and personality, some of the best supports for a lot of them are not with Corrin though.

To Douman:

You have herb-gathering loli, genki loli, dandere loli, grumpy loli... but no dragon loli, that is true.

Spoiler
That's what I was saying about the third route and plot convenience
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 03:41:53 am
You have herb-gathering loli, genki loli, dandere loli, grumpy loli... but no dragon loli, that is true.


Oh please why do we need genki!?

Though i still have feeling that third route is going to be too cheesy...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 22, 2016, 09:19:17 pm
So titor, is 3rd campaign start from scratch as well or does it follow on one of the clear files?

if its brand new file then ill minimize grinding on nohr path to speed up the process much more. Grinds are to happen in final data i use to raid your castles :3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 23, 2016, 05:58:52 am
Plot:
-Children stuff was better done in Awakening

B-b-but the children stuff in Awakening was already pretty terrible... I mean, they needed to put out DLC to finally give them some susbtance...

-The story has some issues trying to meld together "player avatar" and giving him/her his/her own personality. The biggest issue...without wanting to go into spoilers...is that Hoshido and Nohr are not morally grey for the most part. Hoshido is "glorious pacifist goodie-two-shoes nippon" and Nohr is "barbaric genocidal western Europe", and what a flip Corrin's personality has in each route.
-Marx will surely flip a table or two at some of the plot devices, that put the RD Blood Pact to shame. PS: Just beat RD on HARD with all the paired endings btw, and this time I did nurse Ilyanna to be the ultimate dragonslayer.



Oh, joy. Well done. Her and Kurthnaga wrecked that chapter for me


Well, putting negativity aside, I like the rest of what you say. While I was prepared for the worst when I knew they chose a manga author for this, it seems that in the end something good will come out of it (not that manga's stories are bad, I in fact love a lot of them, it's just that they are quite different to what the usual FE is and the author was relatively unknown). And dynamic storytelling for FE would rock: old FEs already could have substantial implied changes depending on your recruits, and now it would be to take the next step and put it on the forefront and add different routes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 22, 2016, 10:21:29 pm
personally story was never the strong point, its about tales series level of story. more mad at they bother to get famous author to do story and advertise they did.

also unboxing here to be hated by douman.

artbook and signature printed wallpaper covering the game case
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 22, 2016, 10:33:02 pm
personally story was never the strong point, its about tales series level of story. more mad at they bother to get famous author to do story and advertise they did.

also unboxing here to be hated by douman.

artbook and signature printed wallpaper covering the game case

>>>>>.>>>>>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 05:33:18 am
also unboxing here to be hated by douman.
um... why?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 23, 2016, 06:57:20 am
Something, Something, Ryoma and his magnificently glorious mane.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 23, 2016, 04:43:56 pm
I think I have found the answer to the question of 'pvp final team'

pic is spoiler of chpt6, all famous decisions route... tho cant call it spoiler lol. its on their trailers.

enjoying lunatic atm so i think ill continue all 3 in lunatic now.
holy chapter 4 was hard lol.

so yeah i think
Spoiler
path you take continues to ending, and that is your pvp team for my castle. prolly 3rd path sounds unbalanced compared to others but who knows. sounded like my castle let you learn every skill with some gold. i'll go hoshito nohr revel in order still.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 09:12:20 am
Srsly learn to rotate photos  :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 23, 2016, 12:22:12 pm
The best part is if you save the photos, they save the right way round ^.^
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 08:34:52 pm
So it is forum being kinda stupid  ???
Lame, well sorry then
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 23, 2016, 12:48:42 pm
Akio, playing on Lunatic Classic on the first run? If you thought CH 4 was hard...wait till Nohr Ch10.  Took me 7 trys on hard till I figured a way of killing everything and not losing any units

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 23, 2016, 04:16:51 pm
I had said that once I got my copy of FE that I'd confirm whether or not all three games were on the Special Edition cartridge, and I forgot to do so before going to sleep last night, so I'll answer that now. Yes, Birthright, Conquest, and Revelations are all together. You get to choose your side shortly after getting to see both sides temporarily, and then you get a sort of route intro. I've only done Nohr so far, but things have been fun. I stopped after my third attempt at Chapter 7 because I needed to sleep, but that may simply be because I screwed up by not leveling one of my characters in the early stuff. Hopefully I'll get to play more between classes in a little while, though I'm not gonna say more unless people ask me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 23, 2016, 06:24:09 pm
Akio, playing on Lunatic Classic on the first run? If you thought CH 4 was hard...wait till Nohr Ch10.  Took me 7 trys on hard till I figured a way of killing everything and not losing any units

what, camillia go off killing everyone as AI? lol

had to re do chp4 few times to get exp cuz lobster bro kept last hitting everythimg.

Spoiler
so i let him die chpt5
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 23, 2016, 07:10:20 pm
Akio, playing on Lunatic Classic on the first run? If you thought CH 4 was hard...wait till Nohr Ch10.  Took me 7 trys on hard till I figured a way of killing everything and not losing any units

what, camillia go off killing everyone as AI? lol

had to re do chp4 few times to get exp cuz lobster bro kept last hitting everythimg.

Spoiler
so i let him die chpt5

Spoiler
It's more a matter of figuring that the best defense is a brutal frontal assault to the enemy positions while you rain death upon them using busty nee-san (now, seriously, Camilla is the best flier in the game PERIOD) and having two archers makes the pegasi an easy farm.


I'm about to face against Nohr Chapter 19. I think I should start pairing more units to get more levels to level up my A-Team, so I might spam my Castle battles. By the way, if I manage to get any good skills on my characters, specially Corrin, I will put an easy wireless team so you guys can pick the skills.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 08:21:12 pm
It is curious how quickly FF If styled 3ds consoles have been sold  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 24, 2016, 04:41:07 am
They doing that well? I haven't looked at sales figures...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 23, 2016, 08:40:04 pm
They doing that well? I haven't looked at sales figures...
I'm not really sure how much they sold, but they are out of stuff already.
Though there are obvious issue of re-selling for profit  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 23, 2016, 11:08:09 pm
So, yeah...  started off with the Hoshido route. Well, that's a lie. I started off on Nohr with a Female Avatar and then switched over to Hoshido with a Male Avatar.

King Garon at the opera house. I had a number of really strong characters and a burning desire to smack a bitch.

Normal difficulty, Phoenix...

Took 10-15 turns(?) of Takumi doing assists and attacking the old bastard to beat him... meanwhile, Xander's sitting on his ass and watching (Thankfully), and it took only 3 turns to kill his entire lot.

Favorite pairing, though:

Kaden and Orochi...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 23, 2016, 11:25:19 pm
Isn't Kaden's laugh just the best?

On an unrelated note, I should have my new 3DS within a week! So soon I can join the party.

I'd make waiting sound like the most terrible thing ever, but Europe.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 23, 2016, 11:42:23 pm
Isn't Kaden's laugh just the best?
Kaden in general is the best.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 24, 2016, 01:49:45 am
so far idk who to like in hoshido other than hinoka and tsubaki. setsuna seems nice but i need to get her in my army first.


nohr is full of people ill gladly give my virgini*** to.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on February 24, 2016, 10:29:01 am
Gorchnik just got back from a co-workers place tonight after having some drinks and playing some poker. He busted out his copy for Fates and your lord played the first six chapters.

Whoo boy that translation is awful. Like top-tier terrible. Gorchnik would love to sit down and have a few words with the team that localized this.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 24, 2016, 01:17:09 pm
Gorchnik just got back from a co-workers place tonight after having some drinks and playing some poker. He busted out his copy for Fates and your lord played the first six chapters.

Whoo boy that translation is awful. Like top-tier terrible. Gorchnik would love to sit down and have a few words with the team that localized this.

Lol they decided to over "localize" it?

UPD:
Found where to order new 3ds Fire Emblem themed  8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 24, 2016, 09:31:25 am
Gorchnik just got back from a co-workers place tonight after having some drinks and playing some poker. He busted out his copy for Fates and your lord played the first six chapters.

Whoo boy that translation is awful. Like top-tier terrible. Gorchnik would love to sit down and have a few words with the team that localized this.

Lol they decided to over "localize" it?

Totally an utterly. Normally I don't like to enter in this quagmire (I prefer a liberal localization than the simple disaster of mistranslations and bugs Koei sometimes gives us, for example), but I'm starting to think they're taking it to absurd levels...

At this rate, if they ever remake FE4 Lachesis would be changed to a stalker, Levin will make spoony bard jokes even when his mother is dying, and Sylvia would become... I don't know what they would make with her, but it would be bad...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 24, 2016, 10:04:16 am
I've unfortunately been following it since I have some friends who do follow the quagmire that is localisation, and I'm in a unique position as a beta tester and proofreader of VNs. Some of the things that I've seen are just... atrocious. I don't think translation has to be 100% direct, and it shouldn't, but when you replace an entire scene with "..." "..." "..." "..." Support Rank Up! then I think you've gone way too far. Now, I'm not necessarily blaming the translators or editors here - I don't know who was calling the shots. But I was super on board for Fates when I first learned about it and its themes, and I preordered the Collector's edition, which is estimated at $200 here. And still not out. I'm considering cancelling it and buying the game pre-owned to send a small message about bad localisation. I don't know if I will, because it'll likely mean I won't get the collector's edition with everything on it, and I'd still have to buy the other stuff as DLC, but that I'm even thinking about this with something I had such high hopes for...

Frankly, Nintendo, I'm disgusted with you.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 24, 2016, 10:18:03 am
Well now that sounds as disaster...

I then place my hope on re-translation project and will not order Fire emblem If until there will be a proper re-translation patch.
Hopefully there will be patch for HANS to work.
For anyone interested you can follow it here http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=60728f

I do hope that someone will teach them about how to translate things.

I also hope to hear more from Gorchik, since i suspect he played original game?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 24, 2016, 07:19:18 pm
The localization has it's fair share of... Let's call it room for improvemnet.
Now i know no japanese, but I did follow the fantranslated scripts and supports, and I will play devils advocate and say that some of the localization changes are done nicely and they've managed to pseudo adapt some of the jap-cultural puns to a good western equivalent.

I like some of the support conversations  more than the fantranslated ones, Lazlow's supports for example, on the C supp with MKamui it added some nice callback to his traits and way of being.

And the supports between the male Nohr siblings seem pretty untouched, as well as most of the few I've seen in the Nohr side so far.

But I agree, the ".." support is like a bad joke, hurts me a lot because it's between two characters who are imho amongst the most interesting  on how similar yet different they are. (Yeah, it's part from one of my OTP chains, gotta problem, punks?!?! Come 'ere and I'll give ya all a handfull ye peasant shippers!)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 24, 2016, 11:55:02 am
If it was more they did it for a quick joke and restored the conversation in full for the next rank in addition to the normal one - so an extra long support - then I would say fair enough. But they just outright removed it. Who chooses what stays and goes, and why? And I don't like that Nintendo's being quiet about it - not that I expected them to stand up and take ownership of their changes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 24, 2016, 01:34:23 pm
To be true Arraxis, as it's a Revelations support, at first I thought it was a grand mistake that had to do with them forgwtting to remove a "Place holder text".

I mean, a man can dream, right!??

Turns out it really seems it's an atgempt to make fun of one of the text heaviest supports and the personalities of both characters, which is sad because one of them is rather silent and it wa snice seeing them exchange their opinions on the topic.


Spoiler
Was it finally a joke referencing the hacked Rath and Jaffar support or did they go full Metal Gear Solid because both of the characters involved are  assasins/infiltrators and the easiest to draw analogies to? If thats the case why weren't any blxes present!?!? I demand Saizou hiding under a box being found by Beruka and glorious Arthur bashing in shirtless and screaming " Nanomachibes, son!" fanart 

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 24, 2016, 01:38:48 pm
If it's a mistake, and I doubt it is, they have a duty to patch the game - frankly there's no way something like that should have gotten through beta testing. Console games can be patched now, so they have no excuse.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 24, 2016, 01:45:45 pm
Of course they must, if it's the case which I also doubt... But if it is, might have to do with kt being part of the DLC route which SE aside,  is intended to be published later on.

Turning to the good things of the game.. Conquest Hard Classic is the best FE experience in terms of gameplay and difficulty I've had in the series so far.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 24, 2016, 01:47:59 pm
I can't play Classic. It frustrates me to no end. Only reason I bought Awakenings was because it had the option to turn off permadeath. I've touched on other games, but I get really upset with them and having to restart.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 25, 2016, 03:20:33 am
I normally play on casual then restart gameif someone dies.

to prevent when I play at night, i forget kellan died and move on.

had to go back 4 chapters because of that.

but because in pvp it shows ur classic, playing on classic for final acc all the time.

Updated: February 25, 2016, 03:22:10 am
also reminds me of tiamo/Cordelia doing weed reference cuz localization team didnt know what weed means in US
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Gorchnik on February 25, 2016, 02:44:44 am
Gorchnik hates having to endorse Gawker but Patrick has a good article on it right now

http://kotaku.com/the-fight-over-the-best-way-to-translate-fire-emblem-fa-1761106038
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 25, 2016, 03:04:19 am
god has really chosen me to be nohrian.


siegfred crit lobster and ended his terror in first fight at chpt6
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 25, 2016, 05:36:05 am
Gorchnik hates having to endorse Gawker but Patrick has a good article on it right now

http://kotaku.com/the-fight-over-the-best-way-to-translate-fire-emblem-fa-1761106038

Quote
That whole mindset—that Japanese has ‘correct’ translations into English and that localizers are people who mangle those perfect answers—is misguided
Oh yes, when they start to re-write text it can be called localization  ::)

The sad thing about it is that a lot of pre-orders will make this game looks like success
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 25, 2016, 10:15:08 am
Oh yes, when they start to re-write text it can be called localization  ::)

The sad thing about it is that a lot of pre-orders will make this game looks like success

The problem is that when XSEED translated things, they do that, and they actually do it very well while still maintaining most of elements intact (Trails being a very good example). And Koestl does the same when translating Visual Novels, and that doesn't stop his translations from Grisaia and Gahkthun from being very good.

While the article is good, I think the problem with NoA's localization is not the quality of the translation and localization itself: it's well edited, nicely written and generally well done. It's that they tend to add some silly things trying to spice things up: for example, Sumia's thing with pies in Awakening was basically mad in the localization from a relatively throwaway line in the Japanese. The problem is that the original support for Sumia and Chrom was totally and utterly bland in a way only that pair can be (I still believe them to be one of the blandest pairs in Awakening even with the rewriting). The famous support they changed with ... is because they probably deemed the original as too standard, emo, and typical.

The problem however of that mindset is that assumes it knows better than the original writer.  And that is a huge, enormous, sin for a translator: assuming they know better than the original writer what he/she wanted to express. I mean, I don't blame them after Awakening, but not all games are like that. And that is kinda something no translator should ever do.

An extreme localization example can be Phoenix Wright: but even that was born from a respect of wanting to put that strange, incredibly fun and interesting game on the states. Yes, they wrote themselves in a corner as the series went on, and I personally disagree on what they did, but I still felt that the translator was trying to respect what the original writer did, trying to translate it to the typical Americentrism most media in the United States take but with all the zanyness and plot of the original.

And from what few translation I've seen, it seems like NoA is lacking that respect: changing characters and supports to make a quick joke, etc.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on February 25, 2016, 10:27:30 am
My position is it more radical.
I generally think that translation's priority is accuracy, not adaptation.

You're not making remake or anything.
You're putting product to be available in different languages.

And it is bothering me because usually it is jp stuff that is being mis-translated.
I doubt that translation to other languages would be significantly different from english one.

Xseed knows how to do things at least from what i can see in Trails.
There are some silly things, but they do not tend to bother you.
And that's should be example of HOW to translate jap stuff
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 25, 2016, 02:05:56 pm
Issue with fidelity in the translation, which I can stand behind, is that youd had to add a whole lot of context and cultural explanations for some of the puns they do, which could alienate most of the fandom, the "not active in forums or fansites " one.

And some localizations do change even amongst "western countries" greatly. Take the BoBoBo anime for an example.

Anyway, not every translation company works like ATLUS or XSEED make their depts do it.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 25, 2016, 03:32:03 pm
i recall one of localization issues case was on zelda skyforce or something, an extra character no one remembers in japan is popular in west because they modified story or some sort.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 26, 2016, 03:54:15 am
Best Birthrights Villain.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/disneyvillains/images/f/f3/Iago.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121027214640)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 26, 2016, 05:06:21 am
note to self: GBA tactics does not work on fates.



I wanted to lure that 1 guy.

not squadron of 10 ninjas.

Updated: February 26, 2016, 08:07:55 am
well. xander is nice guy.
below is spoiler describing what spoiler is about
Spoiler
in hoshido route, aqua fk up and u fight xander.
Spoiler
issue is xander couldnt kill lvl 15 oboro.
oboro with guard nakata and silas buddy hit 24 def. xander did 15 damage at a time which heal was enough to cover. 5 hp at a time he went. finish blow went to spectator.(http://puu.sh/nlTwX/8d22a8b927.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 27, 2016, 07:56:29 am
note to self: GBA tactics does not work on fates.



I wanted to lure that 1 guy.

not squadron of 10 ninjas.


In the later chapters of Nohr, the enemies cannot be lured easily. Most of the time the whole Army will march against you if you try that xD

And CH23 + surprise reinforcements + rally skill spam by the enemy = "Hah, we can use cheap tactics too"

And let's not forget the infamous Ninja with Lunge and Poison Strike combination.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 28, 2016, 03:42:51 am
'enemy starts to stack rally and debuff'

Ok I didnt plan to make my self a rally unit like awakening cuz that broke the game but guess I have to.


also whats with this streetpass people with +5 shuriken this is op lol




also campaign wise, I notice my self using real life infantry tactics and its hilarious.

and first game for most of my guys to hit 20 then promote and still have less than 30 hp. 
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 28, 2016, 08:13:55 am
Akio, I have 2 rspeed and defense falllers in my team. I can share my castle adress and deploy them  in such a way it's easy for you to win so you can bjy them.

Rally Str is harder to get, as your potential bersekers, albeit good units, turn out to be the bedt pair up fodder in the game.

If you are having a hard time and feel a bit underleveled,/ poor, consider doing a child paralogue . Some of them are  quite useless if you don't go full eugenics, so it's their level adaptive enemies  you'll use the most.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 03, 2016, 04:09:13 am
Nintendo Direct coming tomorrow, peeps!

This is it, they finally tell us the release date TOMORROW!

BRACE YOURSELVES!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on March 02, 2016, 11:28:49 pm
Be about time they gave us a solid launch date for FE:F in "PAL" regions. Might hear a bit about Miitomo, that should be launching this month too.


P.S.
... Still getting random chuckles out of Pokemon S&M.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 03, 2016, 09:20:43 am
Be about time they gave us a solid launch date for FE:F in "PAL" regions. Might hear a bit about Miitomo, that should be launching this month too.


P.S.
... Still getting random chuckles out of Pokemon S&M.

And me still waiting for restoration patches...
Playing Devil Survivor 2 for now
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 03, 2016, 03:31:46 pm
ill hope kamui's pickup lines are fail of translations... oh my
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 03, 2016, 10:34:18 pm
We have our release date at last, people!!!! Prepare yourselves...

Fire Emblem: Fates will be released on MAY 20TH

Also, SMT x FE IS coming to the west! On June 24th, no less!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 03, 2016, 10:49:20 pm
Fire Emblem: Fates will be released on MAY 20TH

So May, eh... I think it may even take longer than Awakening... Oh, and May will probably the only time of this Semester when I will actually be busy! joy.

Any news on the special edition?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 03, 2016, 10:51:53 pm
Special edition has all games on one card, comes with a steelbook, artbook and a double-sided poster, one of which shows a map of the two countries. There's also the special edition new XL, which from what I can tell is the same as the american one in design.

Oh, and there's a gold coin too. Has the hoshido symbol on one side and the nohr symbol on the other. Might be a My Nintendo item from the looks of things.

Link to the Fates part of the Direct (https://youtu.be/WTXWfbGRqZM?t=32m20s)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on March 04, 2016, 12:37:04 am
Also, SMT x FE IS coming to the west! On June 24th, no less!
Funny enough, the Western name of the game is a clever reference and combination of both the original placeholder title (SMTxFE) and its final Japanese title (Genei Ibunroku #FE):

Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE
= TMS#FE

And TMS spelled backwards = ...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 04, 2016, 12:42:52 am
new issue is they changed title to atlus x fe saying smt was nintendo's doing.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 04, 2016, 12:47:37 am
And TMS spelled backwards = ...
Yeah, I spotted that. Sneaky little swines XD
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 04, 2016, 01:02:58 am
Best Birthrights Villain.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/disneyvillains/images/f/f3/Iago.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121027214640)
Spoiler
lobster's son.  someone fix his ai please
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on March 04, 2016, 01:40:21 am
Best Birthrights Villain.

(http://vignette2.wikia.nocookie.net/disneyvillains/images/f/f3/Iago.gif/revision/latest?cb=20121027214640)
Spoiler
lobster's son.  someone fix his ai please
??? What about Ryoma's son's ai?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 04, 2016, 03:23:34 am
He charges at enemy hero.


he should know better his spear skill is too shit for that.

Either rescue him in 2 turn or he dies.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 04, 2016, 07:52:02 am
Co sidering you can grind till yer hat falls off in Birthright, rescue staffs shouldn't be that hard o come by and ware dropped by certain enemies , right?

Have Nohr Ch27 , if you don't get lucky with the enemy Entrap staffs, or have your healer with a couple rescue staffs, that unit is directly dead.
Being tped to a 40 str berseker does that to people. Or a 28 str and 37 sp ninja when you are a healer.

And you get exactly 2 rescue staffs in the whole playthrough (aka 4 uses)

There are ways to work around it, but ther eis a bit of RNG to it
---------

Edit:
I haven't played Shiro's paralogue yet, but wouldnt you be able to reach Shiro in time using to fliers , one of them carrying Azura,/Aqua and another one carrying Great Lobster Shogun?
It's a potential 18 tile movement, and if you reach shiro the Offspring seal should make him OP as fuck/proud prawn Lobster-to-be

---------------------------------------------------------

Update:

I finished Fire Emblem Conquest on Hard Classic. *#ProudNohrian*


The endgame chapter can be a bit tricky, but I'd say the objectively hardest yet coolest chapter in the game is Ch 25. Ch 26 is tough, but not as much as 25. Design wise, Ch10, 11, 17, 21-23 and 25 are the best imho.


Will start tackling Birthright on hard classic soon enough.

For those struggling with Nohr, I have characters with Rally Str, Def, Spd and SKill and an OP as fuck Corrin with Swordfaire, Speeddrain, Lifestealer, Rend Heaven , Aegis and Rally Speed/ Astra/ Nohrian trust amongst others.

+ if you are looking to train some specific characters, I might have good skills for a bunch of them, including Profiteur for Mozu and Midori.


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on March 05, 2016, 05:26:29 am
I haven't played Shiro's paralogue yet, but wouldnt you be able to reach Shiro in time using to fliers , one of them carrying Azura,/Aqua and another one carrying Great Lobster Shogun?
It's a potential 18 tile movement, and if you reach shiro the Offspring seal should make him OP as fuck/proud prawn Lobster-to-be

I got to him in two or three turns, but I guess normal allowed him to not get his shit rekt. Actually, due to the chapter I was in, he was the one dishing out the hurt.

but Hinoka Airlines Lobster transport is best
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 06, 2016, 07:19:06 pm
Got the game(s). Played through the first six chapters on Lunatic, though only half of them really qualify as real battles. After that, moved to Conquest, Hard. I've read so many complaints about this game, so much vitriol and bitterness, but I must say, so far I like the characters, the story, the gameplay, and everything else. I think people might have blown things out of proportion, a little. So far, liking Xander more than I expected, and liking Camilla less than expected, though she's still cool. Silas is definitely my best unit, and a really nice guy, and I'm being entirely serious when I say I'd S-Rank him with Corrin, if it were possible. They're cute together.

Of course, I'm currently just around Chapter 10, so all of my opinions are subject to change. As a final note, the online multiplayer is fun. Only won one match so far, but it was a nice win: started by moving all my units to the middle of the map, the opponent broke a wall, moved to a Dragon Vein, activated it, and reduced the health of all my units, aside from Corrin, to one, before I'd managed to damage their units at all. This being the only match I've won does amuse me. Also, recruited Nyx, and she is adorable. And mean. But mostly adorable. And after a time, I've grown to like Felicia a lot, especially since I didn't care much about her before playing.

Anywho, those are my first impressions. Glad I chose Nohr. Plan to move to Birthright's Lunatic mode once I beat this, then Revelations' Lunatic, then maybe try Conquest on the same, assuming I feel confident in my abilities by that point.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 06, 2016, 08:09:04 pm
Got the game(s). Played through the first six chapters on Lunatic, though only half of them really qualify as real battles. After that, moved to Conquest, Hard. I've read so many complaints about this game, so much vitriol and bitterness, but I must say, so far I like the characters, the story, the gameplay, and everything else. I think people might have blown things out of proportion, a little. So far, liking Xander more than I expected, and liking Camilla less than expected, though she's still cool. Silas is definitely my best unit, and a really nice guy, and I'm being entirely serious when I say I'd S-Rank him with Corrin, if it were possible. They're cute together.

Of course, I'm currently just around Chapter 10, so all of my opinions are subject to change. As a final note, the online multiplayer is fun. Only won one match so far, but it was a nice win: started by moving all my units to the middle of the map, the opponent broke a wall, moved to a Dragon Vein, activated it, and reduced the health of all my units, aside from Corrin, to one, before I'd managed to damage their units at all. This being the only match I've won does amuse me. Also, recruited Nyx, and she is adorable. And mean. But mostly adorable. And after a time, I've grown to like Felicia a lot, especially since I didn't care much about her before playing.

Anywho, those are my first impressions. Glad I chose Nohr. Plan to move to Birthright's Lunatic mode once I beat this, then Revelations' Lunatic, then maybe try Conquest on the same, assuming I feel confident in my abilities by that point.

Glad you are enjoying it. The complaints come more from teh story part (starts to go ..bad? on chapter 15 or so. But it's more because it had the potential that become something much greater than what it turned out to be . Plus, most of the people who hate on it tend to forget the circumstances Corrin is in...).

Characterwise and gameplaywise it's helluva lot of fun.

If you want any tips for Nohr Hard Classic, feel free to ask :D

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 07, 2016, 08:35:44 pm
Looked up special edition on Amazon.
A lot of reselling for 200+$

Damn bastards.

P.s. maybe i have hope for EU special edition  ???
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 07, 2016, 04:43:20 pm
IMO playing all 3 route slowly, hoshido main, and I find most of hoshido characters blend sadly compared to nohr,

Oboro is nice tho, but thats cuz I like these type of char (ex setsuna and azama)
hinoka's voice is nice too.


nohr is full of marriage candidates... hahaha
also 3rd path im doing Femui cuz not enough female chars for males in hoshido atleast.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 07, 2016, 06:02:41 pm
I agree with you Akio. Fknished conquest, running through Hoshido atm and most of the characters seem so...bland...

I do like Oboro though, and can't wait to finally get her and turn her into  a frontline powerhouse. I think I will end up using at least two ninjas (because they are broken as fuck, and Saizo is too badass not to use) , and maybe one swordmaster apart from king lobster.

Might add Mozu to he mix later on.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 07, 2016, 06:51:12 pm
I noticed kage has steroid str growth so made her swordmaster after lethality. setsuna and kaze are dreads cuz i didnt want too many ninja yet have op ninjas.


end of the day I give oboro javelin and she 1shots everyone. its like nephenee all over again
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 08, 2016, 10:28:45 am
Oboro is Jill-like personality in a Nepheenes class and body. Win-win. Need more units like her.

Sad thing that I think taht without Appropiate S ranking she can't have acces to Sol. Might use greatlord seal on her for Aether...

Let's hope Kaze doesn't get str screwed like in my conquest run...Then again, Hoshido you can grind like there's no tomorrow...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on March 08, 2016, 11:26:35 am
I hate you all. Fates doesn't come out here until the 21th of May. It's just ridiculous. 
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 08, 2016, 12:26:58 pm
I hate you all. Fates doesn't come out here until the 21th of May. It's just ridiculous.

Well if you have hacks on your console you might get share of restoration patch  ::)
http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=60728f
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on March 08, 2016, 12:30:46 pm
With any luck NoE is doing a different translation - if so it's a worthwhile wait. There is precedent for this, too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 08, 2016, 12:38:30 pm
NoE?  ???
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on March 08, 2016, 12:39:39 pm
Nintendo of Europe.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 08, 2016, 12:42:03 pm
That would be good but it seems very unlikely that they would want to do double work.
Though i'll wait for someone to report about it since i'm waiting for restoration patch and Special Edition...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 08, 2016, 01:00:09 pm
Idk of different translation, maybe they do, but people are spreading rumors of NoE not cutting the content from the JP version.

As in, rubbing people kn your room making it in.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on March 08, 2016, 01:08:30 pm
I know it sounds dumb, but I've said this before - Nintendo DOES do double work in different regions. Look at Advance Wars, for example. Different script for each region. Harvest Moon, too. That's why I'm holding out hope.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 08, 2016, 01:19:54 pm
Well then i hope to hear report on EU version then
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 08, 2016, 02:42:55 pm
I mean, if it's going to be localized to Deutsch , Francais , Italian, Spanish and Russian? , changing things in the PAL English version doesn't seem very far fetched.

Nintendo does do a lot of double work for localizations, so hey, cheers if they do and it makes ya guys happy.

My bro will.be getting the game himself (EU version), so it's not like I have to choose one or the other
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 08, 2016, 08:48:45 pm
advanced wars. AHHHHHHHHH  U SAID U WILL MAKE THIS IF FIRE EMBLEM HAS ENOUGH ATTENTION U MADE FATES INSTEADD
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 09, 2016, 05:04:02 pm
Advance wars with RPG elements and waifus?

Jetvpilots instead of pegasi girls?
Sniper luuderes instead of silent assasins ?
A tsundere special operative?
Yandere heavy tank commander?


This needs to happen.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 09, 2016, 09:35:54 am
Advance wars with RPG elements and waifus?

Jetvpilots instead of pegasi girls?
Sniper luuderes instead of silent assasins ?
A tsundere special operative?
Yandere heavy tank commander?


This needs to happen.


It's called My Little Dictator, and it comes out NEVER.

Seriously though, it would be basically a more massive scale, waifu XCOM
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 09, 2016, 09:56:47 am
Advance wars with RPG elements and waifus?

Jetvpilots instead of pegasi girls?
Sniper luuderes instead of silent assasins ?
A tsundere special operative?
Yandere heavy tank commander?


This needs to happen.

This is indeed a beautiful picture!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 09, 2016, 08:12:39 pm
Advance wars with RPG elements and waifus?

Jetvpilots instead of pegasi girls?
Sniper luuderes instead of silent assasins ?
A tsundere special operative?
Yandere heavy tank commander?


This needs to happen.


It's called My Little Dictator, and it comes out NEVER.

Seriously though, it would be basically a more massive scale, waifu XCOM

XCOM is great. Waifus are good. The roar of the cannons, the imposing sound of tank treads and the scriech of the dive bombers are also awesome.

What is to lose?


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WeAreTheMeta on March 09, 2016, 12:17:07 pm
Advance wars with RPG elements and waifus?

Jetvpilots instead of pegasi girls?
Sniper luuderes instead of silent assasins ?
A tsundere special operative?
Yandere heavy tank commander?


This needs to happen.


It's called My Little Dictator, and it comes out NEVER.

Seriously though, it would be basically a more massive scale, waifu XCOM

XCOM is great. Waifus are good. The roar of the cannons, the imposing sound of tank treads and the scriech of the dive bombers are also awesome.

What is to lose?

If you remember to add a loli russian singing a russian song on a tank, nothing
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on March 09, 2016, 12:19:25 pm
My Katyusha senses are tingling!

https://youtu.be/rIY36UbDbQQ (https://youtu.be/rIY36UbDbQQ)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 09, 2016, 01:47:36 pm
I'm ok with that, but I demand gorgeous  trench coat wearing tank commander chridtmas keeki singing Panzerlied
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 10, 2016, 04:43:17 am
lunatic status:
surrounded from start by enemy 2-3 lvl above me. i can farm or....

send ryoma to slay 60 enemy himself.

giant enemy lobster i mean friendly

Updated: March 10, 2016, 04:45:06 am
i should just call him lobster jedi.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on March 10, 2016, 05:25:16 am
lunatic status:
surrounded from start by enemy 2-3 lvl above me. i can farm or....

send ryoma to slay 60 enemy himself.

giant enemy lobster i mean friendly

Updated: March 10, 2016, 04:45:06 am
i should just call him lobster jedi.

The Grand Poobah of the lobsters
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 10, 2016, 05:31:00 pm
If you manage to get Sol on Lobsterbking (friendship seal ftw) , just pair him up with some Str and Skl unit , equip him with vantage and enjoy soloing Birthright lunatic.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 18, 2016, 09:13:50 am
Found some images a while back, realized I forgot to post them, so here they are.

She's already adorable, but this look suits her well.
(http://i.imgur.com/68ExOkU.png)

A strange twist, but I can't say it isn't interesting.
(http://i.imgur.com/4Q2XoLa.jpg)

I find myself oddly liking all of these. Especially Leo.
(http://i.imgur.com/Tifyoe0.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 18, 2016, 02:31:49 pm
Nice find indeed Elvis.

Bit sad about FXander , MCamilla and the genderbended lil sisters design though... MHinoka looks bloody awesome, an dI do like FLeo and FTakumi.

And yes, Elise looks great with loose hair... Is that Ophelias or Camilla's haircut, though?

Anyway, another proof , if any was needed, that Nohr is clearly the superior choice. Best imouto, best gameplay, best music, best tsundere. You do miss on the Jill in a Nepheene body, though...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 18, 2016, 06:28:18 pm
most people i find through spot pass has leo look.

dark falcon + femui + blonde side tail
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Ledabot on March 22, 2016, 08:53:02 pm
I know it sounds dumb, but I've said this before - Nintendo DOES do double work in different regions. Look at Advance Wars, for example. Different script for each region. Harvest Moon, too. That's why I'm holding out hope.

I think I might forgive the wait if this turns out to be the case with FE
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 04:14:14 am
Ok i started Fire emblem.
Advices what are the best skills to look for?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 31, 2016, 02:03:15 pm
sol (heavily nerfed but lobster jedi build uses it)
astra (best tanking skill imo due to dual guard)
shuriken slayer (shurikens op. remove plz)
all of MC's skills
amaterasu (20% heal to teammate on start of turn in 2 spaces)
vantage (without this all of your close range dps won't survive)
merchant skills (gold ez always gud)
blacksmith skills (reason why we dont use silver weapons.)
renewal (self heal on start of turn)
shelter (useful for switching rows in formations)
that dlc skill that increase stat cap by 10.


good but not op tier

all slayer skill
all sorts of 10~40% heal skills
nameforgot - its skill that lets u drink potion without spending a turn.
shove
air superiority
trample
dlc skills (gale force, etc. dreadfighter has op anti magic skills)
aegis & pavise
all the seals (-6 stat op)

also some PSA are:
silver weapon debuff stack infinity. don't use them unless have to.
weapons can be upgraded, to upgrade is bit hard but its very worth it. breaks game balance as usual.
seals are infinite purchasable at lvl 3 rod/staff. if not, go to other castle who has lvl 3 and u can buy them 1 at a time.
skills are now learned 1 per level always, from lowest you can learn. (so if your merc become hero lvl 15, and seeks to learn other skills, when he become paladin he learns cavalier skill for 16, 17, then paladin skills for 18, 19.)
due to hack characters, theoretically every character can learn every skill. so based on how you minmax children stat bonus, your children might be weaker than parents unlike awakening.
also its common knowledge now but fathers decide kid this time, not mothers.
Spoiler
not enough female character so highly recommended to not have gay relationships and having male mc... thx nintendo

bit tired so not too accurate.

some strat suggestion is  (open spoiler if u dont wanna strategize ur self.)
Spoiler
dual guard tanker with astra, vantage, and sol, (sol is overkill most of the time if your tank can dodge well)
3 range poker (available as u play game) with all sorts of seals possible, and maybe 20% hp dmg at end of combat ninja has. Tanks who have astra and vantage works well with seal too. ninja can do this without all the seals because they already debuff def res.

damage dealers always needs vantage, enough stat to survive few dmg otherwise they cant dual attack without risking their life. sol is sorta ok, they also loose chunk so won't be a game changer, just saves you from healing.
luna is good but i don't use it because it is inconsistent, normally have it on sub tanks or tanks. I generally had dealers have all sorts of good but not op skills because they generally help damage always, not in procs.

tl;dr vantage op
also beat nohr chapter 8, without
Spoiler
rescusing a single village, so got 0 gold at the end. best adviced to rescue 3, instead of letting enemy rally all 5. I used mostly sillas effie and arthur and they are all lvl 10. I expected lvl 14s...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 08:23:07 am
hm.. ok i too started Norh chapter...
But men... this MC is so whiny about peace... Really hate it.

btw, no free maps without dlc again?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 31, 2016, 08:35:43 am
hm.. ok i too started Norh chapter...
But men... this MC is so whiny about peace... Really hate it.

btw, no free maps without dlc again?

Not in Nohr. Hoshido and Revelations have them though
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 09:21:56 am
hm.. ok i too started Norh chapter...
But men... this MC is so whiny about peace... Really hate it.

btw, no free maps without dlc again?

Not in Nohr. Hoshido and Revelations have them though

that's totally unfair.
Not only i cannot play a badass, i'm without free maps...
Wonderful
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 31, 2016, 06:51:33 pm
that's totally unfair.
Not only i cannot play a badass, i'm without free maps...
Wonderful

 A true badass doesn't need free maps. That's the FE classic essence!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 07:13:35 pm
that's totally unfair.
Not only i cannot play a badass, i'm without free maps...
Wonderful

 A true badass doesn't need free maps. That's the FE classic essence!

Well let's use this argument when we'll have badass MC
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 31, 2016, 11:39:57 am
Pacifism and a desire to save as many people as possible regardless of alignment is totally badass~ At least, it's a type of moral strength I can respect, as well as what makes Corrin the only self insert I've ever even remotely been able to relate to. Though, I know those traits are the exact reason lots of other people dislike some characters, and that's entirely understandable- sometimes you just want to crush everything with no hesitation.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 02:00:04 pm
Pacifism and a desire to save as many people as possible regardless of alignment is totally badass~ At least, it's a type of moral strength I can respect, as well as what makes Corrin the only self insert I've ever even remotely been able to relate to. Though, I know those traits are the exact reason lots of other people dislike some characters, and that's entirely understandable- sometimes you just want to crush everything with no hesitation.
Well i kinda could understand if he would care only for own family, but he cares for every single person...
That's insanity.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 01, 2016, 01:50:38 am
that's totally unfair.
Not only i cannot play a badass, i'm without free maps...
Wonderful

 A true badass doesn't need free maps. That's the FE classic essence!

#Nohr Master Race.

After playing Nohr in hard, Lunatic/noGrind is the only way to go in Hoshido


Anyway Douman, a little trick if you are having a hard time in Nohr. It will solve all your money issues and doesn't require DLC.It doesn't solve Exp issues, true, but it helps a LOT.

Spoiler
1st: Get Profiteer  from castle battles/or reclassing a unit into great merchant. Mozu and WeedLoli are the best candidates
2nd: Play "Before Awakening" until you are rich (you should get about 7 gold bars per run = 2100G)
3rd:  Now you can improve your gear ad infinitum and get those pesky Eternal Seals





Also , While I don't like MC being a bit too whiny at times, IMHO he has good reasons to in the Nohr route. His situtation is far more messed up than in the other two routes

Beat both Birthright and Nohr in hard classic (Should have gone lunatic for BR..), so if you want any hints and recommendations, PM is the way to go.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 31, 2016, 05:56:29 pm
would make no sense if kamui doesnt want no death stuff. i cant relate to him actually taking out entire castle without killing but idealy he only knows peace.

Spoiler
and i enjoy kamui suffering from war taking his dear friends away.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 06:22:03 pm
Thanks for advised, but if i would want money i would just take save file and hack it  ::)
The exp is really nice to have so that i could learn all skills for perfect army  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: IgrasilStudio - Kaoru on March 31, 2016, 06:23:29 pm
Ohayo~! emm....some people here started to calling me Mrs Stalker ^^"" so...emmm here I'm
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 31, 2016, 06:29:42 pm
Ohayo~! emm....some people here started to calling me Mrs Stalker ^^"" so...emmm here I'm
Surely a fair lady couldn't be called stalker  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 01, 2016, 03:08:46 am
Thanks for advised, but if i would want money i would just take save file and hack it  ::)
The exp is really nice to have so that i could learn all skills for perfect army  :-\


Your other option would be to abuse child paralogues, as they tend to have totally promoted enemies at your level, allowing you to earn a lot of exp .

Ohayo~! emm....some people here started to calling me Mrs Stalker ^^"" so...emmm here I'm

Welcome!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 31, 2016, 11:15:11 pm
suddenly reminded of stalker in 4chan /a/

i keep my children safe from war by not rescuing them until the end!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 01, 2016, 06:09:16 am
Anyone knows how many items i can stuck in convoy?
99?

UPD:
yes 99
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 02, 2016, 02:56:38 am
imma stop here cuz i suck at this
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 02, 2016, 06:41:42 am
Fire emblem SE has been sold on pre-orders pretty quickly... :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 02, 2016, 07:36:59 am
Fire emblem SE has been sold on pre-orders pretty quickly... :-\

Yep. The fact that there's like a dozen of stores that could sell them but it seems none have higher than 1.000 copies doesn't help.

To be honest, while I could understand the problems with the American edition, here Nintendo of Europe should have been ready from the beginning and prepare at least a lot more.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 02, 2016, 08:40:59 am
japan did same and US didnt change. nintendo just doesnt wanna sell them lol.


USA people were so thirsty some guys raided gamestop warehouse to buy it from there.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 09, 2016, 08:38:38 pm
Ok, i beat Nohr route.
Can i take my castle into new game?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 09, 2016, 08:43:55 pm
Ok, i beat Nohr route.
Can i take my castle into new game?

nope. like awakening game don't let u save end game
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 10, 2016, 06:04:05 am
Ok, i beat Nohr route.
Can i take my castle into new game?

nope. like awakening game don't let u save end game
damn it, i'm really annoyed to rebuilt everything from a scratch
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 10, 2016, 06:17:26 am
hoshido route is litterally ryoma jedi story so you dont need to bother with castle building, and do every support etc on the revel route.

certain char is hoshido only tho so keep a save file.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 10, 2016, 06:26:44 am
hoshido route is litterally ryoma jedi story so you dont need to bother with castle building, and do every support etc on the revel route.

certain char is hoshido only tho so keep a save file.
i'm going for revelations straight.
I can imagine what shit i'm going to witness in Hoshido route...

P.s. surprisingly my skill cap is usually around 35. Very low % for skill based activation even with Hoshido trust  :(
Sol/Luna looks kinda lame with that
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 10, 2016, 07:28:07 am
I generally give MC astra, 2 nohr skill and 10% skill chance of hoshido and sol, and pair with jakob/kaze  with astra as well.

basically tank and survive long as possible while debuffing every enemy that comes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 10, 2016, 07:38:06 am
I generally give MC astra, 2 nohr skill and 10% skill chance of hoshido and sol, and pair with jakob/kaze  with astra as well.

basically tank and survive long as possible while debuffing every enemy that comes.

even with 10% sol is not very reliable. You're having like 40% chance to get healed? And for astra to work there is even lower chance.
Too random  :-\
Though yes, dragon hex is good skill to have in later game when you cannot one-shot enemies.
As well as galeforce+lifetaker if you can reach 35 level  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 13, 2016, 06:02:04 am
Got Hinoka...

No one told be that she's such good waifu :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 13, 2016, 07:41:56 am
Got Hinoka...

No one told be that she's such good waifu :-\

I had good expectations of her. Glad to see she will fulfill them.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 13, 2016, 09:07:55 am
Got Hinoka...

No one told be that she's such good waifu :-\

I had good expectations of her. Glad to see she will fulfill them.
Well there is lots of good waifus
Especially among MC's sisters  ::)
Maybe except for Elise... i'm not into genki type
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 13, 2016, 06:42:51 pm
I'm still scared of sakura haha.  Hinoka was nice because she broke all my expectations (shit strength was sorta expected but she had low skill and average speed as well. However her def and res was higher than oboro.)


I need more Oboro.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 10:26:26 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 10:58:47 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 11:02:38 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 11:12:35 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 11:20:50 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 11:23:56 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 11:28:25 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 11:55:11 am
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 12:04:21 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 12:10:08 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 17, 2016, 12:19:12 pm
It seems the 863th Waifu War (WW DCCCLXIII) has started.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 12:45:12 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 01:09:39 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 01:16:13 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 01:24:21 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 01:36:14 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Half and it does not matter anyway.
Waifu is waifu regardless.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 01:46:09 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Half and it does not matter anyway.
Waifu is waifu regardless.

ew...  Half-sister is one half too much.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 01:54:02 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Half and it does not matter anyway.
Waifu is waifu regardless.

ew...  Half-sister is one half too much.
No, even full-sister is fine.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 01:55:35 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Half and it does not matter anyway.
Waifu is waifu regardless.

ew...  Half-sister is one half too much.
No, even full-sister is fine.

EW, EW, EW, EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK THAT SHIT!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 01:56:17 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Half and it does not matter anyway.
Waifu is waifu regardless.

ew...  Half-sister is one half too much.
No, even full-sister is fine.

EW, EW, EW, EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK THAT SHIT!
Are you child or what? Don't you play VN?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 02:02:55 pm
Revelations Ch. 20 and i still haven't decided best waifu  :-\

But she's literally one of the first people you meet in the game!
#Feliciabestwaifu
Wat?
I would expect Aqua... but Felicia? Not much of great....

Aqua/Azura is shit. Felicia is justice!
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka > Felicia  :P

HERESY!!!!

(https://d304k3mn1nwj0a.cloudfront.net/meme/no.png)

Yes.
I believe this is going to last forever...

I still need to chose the best waifu for myself
Choose Felicia!

I believe i already stated it but my choice is going to be from:
Aqua/Nyx/Hinoka/Camilla/Sakura/Beruka

Then your choice is wrong no matter what it is. Besides, Sakura, Hinoka, Azura, and Camilla are like, the avatar's sisters. Gross as fuck.
No, it is not gross.
Besides technically it is not even incest

It is with Hinoka and Sakura. They're still blood-related to you.
Half and it does not matter anyway.
Waifu is waifu regardless.

ew...  Half-sister is one half too much.
No, even full-sister is fine.

EW, EW, EW, EW!!!!!!!!!!!!!! FUCK THAT SHIT!
Are you child or what? Don't you play VN?
It's just nasty.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 02:04:27 pm
Rape is nasty.
To love your waifu - is a beauty.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 02:12:25 pm
Rape is nasty.
To love your waifu - is a beauty.


Unless your waifu is related to you.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 17, 2016, 02:14:15 pm
Rape is nasty.
To love your waifu - is a beauty.


Unless your waifu is related to you.
I suppose it is pointless to talk with you any further.
You cannot possibly understand...

Poor... sad child...

Anyway stop this flood
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on April 17, 2016, 02:17:10 pm
Rape is nasty.
To love your waifu - is a beauty.


Unless your waifu is related to you.
I suppose it is pointless to talk with you any further.
You cannot possibly understand...

Poor... sad child...

Anyway stop this flood

I'm not a child.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 19, 2016, 06:27:50 pm
First, Flora/Beruka >>>>> All

And about the incest thing... well. It's a matter of perspective.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on April 20, 2016, 02:32:47 am
Didn't Douman say something about raping naughty girls in the past....


i had a screenshot of it
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 20, 2016, 08:00:55 am
Didn't Douman say something about raping naughty girls in the past....


i had a screenshot of it
Well in rare cases you need educational rape  ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on April 21, 2016, 10:23:49 am
Wot?! Europe and PAL region not getting screwed over with an Atlus developed game (https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/722757082072657920)? What is this madness!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on April 21, 2016, 12:23:39 pm
Wot?! Europe and PAL region not getting screwed over with an Atlus developed game (https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/722757082072657920)? What is this madness!
Never thought I'd see the day... *sniff*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on April 21, 2016, 12:55:01 pm
isn't it for wii u or something like that?
I dont care
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 21, 2016, 06:36:16 pm
Wot?! Europe and PAL region not getting screwed over with an Atlus developed game (https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/722757082072657920)? What is this madness!
Never thought I'd see the day... *sniff*

Unbelievable . This could be the dawning of a new Era....an era of ATLUS games being released with a good schedule in the West outside of NA?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 21, 2016, 07:33:36 pm
I refuse to believe it until they release SMT: IV Final in Europe physically...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 25, 2016, 05:51:23 pm
Adorable~

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/wonderfestival3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on July 26, 2016, 09:44:10 am
Adorable~

(http://www.siliconera.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/wonderfestival3.jpg)

Where did you get your adorable imouto?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on August 06, 2016, 12:46:26 pm
Where did you get your adorable imouto?
Good Smile Company have just opened preorders (http://www.goodsmile.info/en/product/5838/Nendoroid+Elise.html) for her a couple of days ago, due for release January 2017... Although realistically, probably better off ordering from another vendor (e.g. AmiAmi (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIGURE-021975) for 4,640 yen, instead of 5,370 yen, and usually cheaper shipping).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on August 06, 2016, 12:58:35 pm
Where did you get your adorable imouto?
Good Smile Company have just opened preorders (http://www.goodsmile.info/en/product/5838/Nendoroid+Elise.html) for her a couple of days ago, due for release January 2017... Although realistically, probably better off ordering from another vendor (e.g. AmiAmi (http://www.amiami.com/top/detail/detail?scode=FIGURE-021975) for 4,640 yen, instead of 5,370 yen, and usually cheaper shipping).
Indeed. Get your preorders in quick, it's rather high on the popularity at the moment!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on August 06, 2016, 07:57:42 pm
Any other waifu figures?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on August 06, 2016, 09:56:35 pm
This is the first from fates, as far as I'm aware. There's a figma of FeCorrin on the way, but that's a while off and figma's might not be what you're asking after.
For awakening, I know of two. There's a Cordelia one and a Tharja one, shown here in respective order:
(http://img.amiami.jp/images/product/main/153//FIGURE-012602.jpg)
(http://img.amiami.jp/images/product/main/132//FIGURE-000673.jpg)
The water plate on the base of the Cordelia figure can be removed to show a cracked tile base instead, which is rather fun~

Edit: I just remembered: there's a Camilla figure for Fates coming out actually! I've only seen the unpainted one thus far though, but it should be good :D
Spoiler
(http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/150/700/ea7.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on August 25, 2016, 05:19:40 am
Totally off subject, but

(http://i.imgur.com/viNjEFy.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WeAreTheMeta on August 25, 2016, 10:23:18 am
Totally off subject, but

(http://i.imgur.com/viNjEFy.jpg)

After the acclaimed MaidRp, I give to you....MAID EMBLEM
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on August 25, 2016, 10:48:40 am

Totally off subject, but

(http://i.imgur.com/viNjEFy.jpg)



Glorious!!! Now we need to dress all the girls with Butler outfit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on August 25, 2016, 02:18:38 pm
stay handsome xander!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on September 11, 2016, 07:00:59 pm
this game is persona tbh but

tokyo mirage is very fun!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 11, 2016, 07:18:35 pm
this game is persona tbh but

tokyo mirage is very fun!
Indeed. The songs are amazing, and though there's not much fire emblem in ratio to other series that may or may not have been meant to be there, the dungeon fighting is very entertaining. :D

Also the shopkeepers are redheads with ponytails, and all look the same. Hmmm....
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on September 14, 2016, 11:09:19 am
this game is persona tbh but

tokyo mirage is very fun!
Personally, I find that it has much more in common with Digital Devil Saga:

Bottom line:
The storyline is sadly a bit on the mediocre side for a SMT spinoff game, but damned if the great gameplay overall doesn't put it near the top for JRPGs in this console generation... I'd happily sink a hell of a lot more hours into it than I already have, if I wasn't so busy with studying these days.

P.S.
Probably the single biggest gameplay issue with TMS... Is that normal attacks are almost completely redundant, since you'd want to use Skills at every opportunity to trigger Session attacks, while if you wanted to finish off an enemy that's weak/near-dead without using EP, you'd just activate auto-attack instead of selecting normal attack.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 14, 2017, 05:14:04 pm
Hello friends! Just wanted to mention that Fire Emblem Warriors was recently announced on the Nintendo Switch! Not exactly a new Fire Emblem game, but it may still prove fun and interesting. There's also going to be a Fire Emblem event held this Thursday that will probably reveal more info about that, and possibly some other stuff like the mobile game and such. And, though the chances are slim, perhaps word of a new game? Elvis would certainly be happy with that~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 14, 2017, 06:15:07 pm
A Fire Emblem Warriors game is certainly something that I always wondered why it hadn't happened yet, specially after Hyrule Warriors. Now to see if they're mainly using Awakening and Fates, or if older FEs will also get a chance (personally, I believe the FE4/5 setting is perfect for a Wariors game, but I'll keep my expectations low).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on January 14, 2017, 07:02:37 pm
If they do it like they did Hyrule Warriors, they'll just mash all the big names from the various games together. The important question is going to end up being "which characters do they think people like most?"
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 14, 2017, 07:57:39 pm
If they do it like they did Hyrule Warriors, they'll just mash all the big names from the various games together. The important question is going to end up being "which characters do they think people like most?"

Let's consider a list of candidates  that balances popularity and playstyle

-Well, I guess the Awakening Lords, Marth , Ike and maybe one or two royals siblings from Fates will be there by sheer popularity.

-Add a pegasus Knight, maybe Caeda (Shiida) or one of the pegasus Sisters. Or maybe we get Nephenee . She is a fan favourite after all and also uses a lance.

-Robin/Corrin ?

-Hector. Axeguy FTW.

-A thief of sorts. Matthew, Gaius and Sothe come to mind.

-Bow User:Maybe Takumi out of sheer popularity. Or Niles

-Magician/Sorcerer: Tharja. No question about it. I mean it IS TEAM NINJA we're talking about.EM BEWBS!!

-A NINJA!!! .... Nah...jk. Or maybe yes.

Baddies:

-Black "Motherfucking" Knight. He's more imposing than the final boss in both of Ike's games. And that's saying something
-Nergal
-Mad King Ashnard?
-Gangrel? He's a swifty guy, like Girahim was for Hyrule warriors.
-Garon? Huge bulky armor, huge twohanded axe. + beard. Needs a beard.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 14, 2017, 09:06:02 pm
If they do it like they did Hyrule Warriors, they'll just mash all the big names from the various games together. The important question is going to end up being "which characters do they think people like most?"

The problem is that if we do that we can kinda get a 100+ roster... I mean, discounting remakes we have 12 games, each with 1-3 lords and a cast of 20+. Even if we take only the lords and 3 fan favorites for each game we already have 55 characters...

Baddies:

-Black "Motherfucking" Knight. He's more imposing than the final boss in both of Ike's games. And that's saying something
-Nergal
-Mad King Ashnard?
-Gangrel? He's a swifty guy, like Girahim was for Hyrule warriors.
-Garon? Huge bulky armor, huge twohanded axe. + beard. Needs a beard.

Oh it's true we have the baddies too... Then I really hope we can have them from something besides Awakening/Fates. FE7 and FE4 had the best enemies by far.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 15, 2017, 03:38:00 am
Tharja or riot. That is all.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on January 15, 2017, 11:42:39 am
Let's consider a list of candidates  that balances popularity and playstyle

-Well, I guess the Awakening Lords, Marth , Ike and maybe one or two royals siblings from Fates will be there by sheer popularity.

-Add a pegasus Knight, maybe Caeda (Shiida) or one of the pegasus Sisters. Or maybe we get Nephenee . She is a fan favourite after all and also uses a lance.

-Robin/Corrin ?

-Hector. Axeguy FTW.

-A thief of sorts. Matthew, Gaius and Sothe come to mind.

-Bow User:Maybe Takumi out of sheer popularity. Or Niles

-Magician/Sorcerer: Tharja. No question about it. I mean it IS TEAM NINJA we're talking about.EM BEWBS!!

-A NINJA!!! .... Nah...jk. Or maybe yes.

At least Chrom was confirmed by the official trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POsTR5iy_TI). Not sure about Lucina, though. She already appeared in SSB as a Marth clone. Chrom's Falchion appears in the trailer and so does the Yato, so I guess Corrin will be playable, too.

I also expect a Manakete class character such as Tiki. Having a thief and an axe user (Hector ftw) would be nice, indeed. Not sure how pegasus knights would work, though. (Haven't played Hyrule Warriors enough to see if there were any mounted playable characters.) I guess a few popular child characters such as Severa and Iñigo, who already appeared in Fates, could be included, too.

Last but not least, I think Anna's appearance (at least as an NPC) is mandatory.


Tharja or riot. That is all.

This. :3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 18, 2017, 10:41:38 pm
A Fire Emblem-exclusive Nintendo Direct aired today, and boy was it packed with stuff. In total, the stream covered FOUR upcoming Fire Emblem titles:

Fire Emblem Warriors
This was briefly touched on, and showed a little of the gameplay. As you probably already thought, think along the lines of Hyrule Warriors but with Fire Emblem characters and you're about there. Release date- Autumn 2017

Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadows of Valentia
Remember Fire Emblem Gaiden? So do they. And it has been graced with a completely new makeover in a game inspired by it. Third person dungeon travelling along with the regular Fire Emblem gameplay, as well as all new cutscenes and more. All lines are fully voiced by their characters, rather than just the general snippets we're used to. Release date of May 19th. Oh, and Alm and Celica are getting amiibos too. You may begin cheering.

Fire Emblem Heroes
The mobile Fire Emblem game. It's basically the Fate series, but with Fire Emblem characters instead (noticing a theme? :P ). As such, it features heroes from all fire emblem games rather than just the recent ones, which is a welcome feature (Lyndis is in it. My happiness levels are high!). All characters are voiced by their originals (if they had original voices), and gameplay looks pretty cool for a mobile game. It has a whole new storyline too, so that's pretty cool as well. One of the characters had a gun of some sort, which could shake things up a bit! A web-based vote for heroes to add in is running online, and the game will be released on February 2nd to the app store and google play.

Fire Emblem for Switch
Nothing much was mentioned about this, other than it is happening. A game for the Switch will be coming some time in 2018.

SO much to be excited about! And I somehow need to find a way to get money enough for Heroes after all this switch money has bled me dry~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on January 18, 2017, 11:01:41 pm
A FE mobile game? Well then, perhaps my Android will gain something new soon then :)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on January 18, 2017, 11:09:37 pm
/me cries conflicted tears, as his wallet can hardly take such abuse, but the hype is real...
 T_T
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 18, 2017, 11:18:59 pm
/me squees happily.

Everything looks awesome~ Gaiden was a game I never really thought I'd play, but now I find myself really looking forardto doing so! New Switch game is just obviously gonna be awesome. And the mobile title, seems to be very similar Phantom of the Kill (which is fair, since it's a Fire Emblem ripoff to begin with, if a fun one) which just so happens to be what I was hoping for there. Plus, what seems to be all or most old characters, with bbrand new art and voiced lines? There's no way I'm not gonna give that a shot. Very happy to have bothered openingmyself up to mobile games lately~

Oh, and Warriors is cool too, but we already knew that~

/me thinks he  kegitimately more excited for today's news than all the Switch stuff put together, and he was pretty excited about that!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 19, 2017, 12:45:14 am
The aforementioned voting site, complete with descriptions and sprites of the new heroes and some older ones~
https://events.fire-emblem-heroes.com/vote (https://events.fire-emblem-heroes.com/vote)
Bonus: Clothing damage WITHOUT being ecchi trash. Beautiful~ ^.^
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on January 19, 2017, 01:33:14 am
I'm just gonna urge people toward voting for Anankos. It's not like I'm aiming to build a team of villains or anything >_>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 19, 2017, 01:35:12 am
I'm going to give a lot of votes for Mustafa. I really wanted to recruit him in Awakening, and here's his chance~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on January 19, 2017, 01:40:00 am
Oh gosh, I somehow forgot about him. Thankies for the reminder~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 19, 2017, 02:41:19 am
I may be wrong, but I think most, if not all, of the presented options will be in the game regardless of who wins. The winners will probably just have a special event around them that let's people get them really easily for a limited time, or perhaps they'll become starter units or such. Of course, that's pure speculation based only on how I've seen other games like this act, so take it with a grain of salt!

Still, we all know the winner will be from Awakening, Fates, or Smash Brothers~ That said, voting Lyon all the way- still my absolute favorite Fire Emblem villain~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 19, 2017, 02:42:35 am
I may be wrong, but I think most, if not all, of the presented options will be in the game regardless of who wins. The winners will probably just have a special event around them that let's people get them really easily for a limited time, or perhaps they'll become starter units or such. Of course, that's pure speculation based only on how I've seen other games like this act, so take it with a grain of salt!

Still, we all know the winner will be from Awakening, Fates, or Smash Brothers~ That said, voting Lyon all the way- still my absolute favorite Fire Emblem villain~
The top hero and heroine will be included, and all the top ten will get special wallpaper style artwork, released daily from 1st through to 10th following the end of the competition~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WhydidIbuytheunionfrigate on January 19, 2017, 04:04:02 am
So... If the (possibly next installment) 'new' FE game is on the Switch... Do you think Nintendo will break the game into bits and sell them at full price like with Fates? (Again Duke, a 3DS+FE Awakening+Fates, all of them, would break my wallet. And would be hard to justify cost-wise...)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 19, 2017, 04:35:50 am
Not sure about the future mystery title, but I did have a thought regarding theGaiden remake. Specifically, the way they titled it! Fire Emblem Echoes: followed by something relating to the specific story. The thing is, they could have just called it FE: Echoes, or just FireEmblem and the last section of title. I can't help but feel that this isn't going to be the only Fire Emblem Echoes title we ever see. I think it might be a new subseries sorta thing, that they have a lot more remakes in mind eventually! Well, it would be cool, anyway~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 19, 2017, 09:05:43 am
Gaiden remake and with Hidari art? Yes, please!

That took me completely by surprise, and I'm hyped beyond believe. I just hope they don't go overboard with the remake and end destroying the lore even more. It was hard to reconcile Awakening with Gaiden and the Mistery, so I hope they make the transition more smooth...

Also, I only saw FE 1/3/6/7/13/14 characters in the mobile game, which while better that my worst fears it's also not as good as it could be. Will definitely vote for either Ike, Ephriam or Leif.

Also, Elvis has a good point with Echoes, but seeing how it went I think there is the possibility that Echoes may just be the subtitle of FE remakes from now on; the change of art and the fact that another team is working on a "mainline" FE on the Switch makes me think they have these two teams working on parallel, and it's pretty likely they move on to another remake when Shadows of Valentia is finished. On the good side, FE 4/5/6 may be approaching!

On the bad side I don't trust FE with 4 and 5, especially after what they did in Fates...

EDIT: There's more promotional art for FE Echoes here (http://imgur.com/a/jGtVc)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on January 21, 2017, 02:39:03 am
So..I just preregistered for FE Heroes^^ Good news, I saw Sakura on a preview! *thimbs up for moe*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 21, 2017, 02:30:38 pm
(https://cdn.meme.am/cache/instances/folder502/500x/58986502.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 23, 2017, 10:03:15 pm
Hello friends!

Random requestion unrelated to most recent news/hype. I wanna play through Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, but I wanna use the Super Trainee classes, which can only be unlocked if you have a save file that beat both routes of the game. Was wondering if anybody had a save file like that, so I don't have to beat the game twice before I... play the game.

Looked online, couldn't seem to find anything that obviously matched, and I'm far too lazy to download and try out various saves up to the point where it would actually be possible to test.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 23, 2017, 10:13:49 pm
Hello friends!

Random requestion unrelated to most recent news/hype. I wanna play through Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, but I wanna use the Super Trainee classes, which can only be unlocked if you have a save file that beat both routes of the game. Was wondering if anybody had a save file like that, so I don't have to beat the game twice before I... play the game.

Looked online, couldn't seem to find anything that obviously matched, and I'm far too lazy to download and try out various saves up to the point where it would actually be possible to test.

I have beaten both paths... on my European GBA, which I doubt will help you in anything, sorry.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WhydidIbuytheunionfrigate on January 24, 2017, 02:19:33 am
Hello friends!

Random requestion unrelated to most recent news/hype. I wanna play through Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones, but I wanna use the Super Trainee classes, which can only be unlocked if you have a save file that beat both routes of the game. Was wondering if anybody had a save file like that, so I don't have to beat the game twice before I... play the game.

Looked online, couldn't seem to find anything that obviously matched, and I'm far too lazy to download and try out various saves up to the point where it would actually be possible to test.

I have a save file for I believe is the intermission before the last battle. The file is for a GBA emulator on my Android, so... if you want it, you can grab my save file , beat the game (or lvl grind everyone to 20 like I was trying for some reason) and restart the game to play it on Ephraim's path. Sorry I haven't beat it yet because I finished Path of Radiance first and am on Radiant Dawn. Also I learned that I was playing the easiest FE game so... I felt ashamed of myself.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on January 24, 2017, 04:33:00 am
I'll have to find my game first and then see if I can rip data from cartridge haha.

by the way, anyone voting for the FE Mobile site?  I threw 4 votes for Hector already
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 24, 2017, 07:36:29 am
I'll have to find my game first and then see if I can rip data from cartridge haha.

by the way, anyone voting for the FE Mobile site?  I threw 4 votes for Hector already

O shit, you can vote for different characters on different days?! Damm, going to vote Seliph today then.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 24, 2017, 02:50:35 pm
I'll have to find my game first and then see if I can rip data from cartridge haha.

by the way, anyone voting for the FE Mobile site?  I threw 4 votes for Hector already
Ew >.< why everyone be likin hector so much? Worst lord in the game confirmed.
I've voted for Soren, Mustafa twice, Lethe and Myrrh. Because cute things and mages and mustafa
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on January 24, 2017, 03:00:39 pm
Clearly the rest of my votes must go to Beruka.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on January 24, 2017, 11:05:56 pm
Huh... The voting won't work for me. I did preregister though :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 25, 2017, 09:31:35 am
Oh, yeah, there's another trailer for FE Heroes (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuulksGCeRI). Still only FE 1/3/6/7/12/13, but seeing old fan-favourites is nice. Some of the illustrations and voices are pretty mediocre though...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on January 26, 2017, 06:12:21 am
Clearly the rest of my votes must go to Beruka.
You can actually just save the link if you expect to vote for a specific character often, like so (https://events.fire-emblem-heroes.com/vote/series/112/heroes/112038).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WhydidIbuytheunionfrigate on January 26, 2017, 01:45:32 pm
I'm assuming that because I don't have a Nintendo Account, I can't vote on any characters outside of Shadow Dragon?...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 26, 2017, 01:50:26 pm
Anyone can vote for any of them. Nintendo account is only used to give you points for voting, as far as I'm aware
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on January 26, 2017, 02:27:26 pm
The site wouldn't work for me at first, but by going through the link provided by mikebrand I was finally able to vote.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WhydidIbuytheunionfrigate on January 26, 2017, 04:24:24 pm
Anyone can vote for any of them. Nintendo account is only used to give you points for voting, as far as I'm aware

It won't allow me to swap game titles and choose from the other characters.

The site wouldn't work for me at first, but by going through the link provided by mikebrand I was finally able to vote.

I swapped to Firefox instead of Chrome and it seems to like it. Also, I'm not sure if my AdBlocker Extension on Chrome had anything to do with it... But I tried to turn it off for the site and it still hated it... Oh well... At least I have 3 browsers to choose from when stuff like this happens...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 27, 2017, 08:16:25 am
Heroes voting is drawing closer to the end, and it seems like, so far, Ike and Lyn are winning! Switching all my votes to Lyn from now on; definitely wouldn't mind my favorite Lord getting some special treatment~ Kinda surprised so many people are voting for older characters, though also happy about it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 27, 2017, 04:40:22 pm
Heroes voting is drawing closer to the end, and it seems like, so far, Ike and Lyn are winning! Switching all my votes to Lyn from now on; definitely wouldn't mind my favorite Lord getting some special treatment~ Kinda surprised so many people are voting for older characters, though also happy about it.
I'm glad Lyn is winning, though I'm going to keep voting with whatever takes my fancy. I want her to win, but I want to support others too and she'll do fine with or without my help. Gave her a vote already :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on January 31, 2017, 12:15:53 am
I just wanted to say, thats its only 3 more days left until Heroes is released! Have you all voted for Matthew or Soren yet? :P (Voted for Nephenee today tho~)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 31, 2017, 01:05:26 am
My first vote was soren, my last will be Odin :D


"I am Odin Dark!" ~ Odin Dark
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on January 31, 2017, 01:24:15 am
My first vote was soren, my last will be Odin :D


"I am Odin Dark!" ~ Odin Dark

Odin eh? Nice guy....has a Coca Cola addiction. Or at least, he did in college lol
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 01, 2017, 08:35:24 pm
Elvis is unashamed to admit he voted for Lyn, like, a bunch of times. The other votes went to Lyon, Leila, Silas, Nino, and Lyon again... I believe in that order. Looking forward to seeing the results of the poll. Also looking forward to the game itself- only one more day left~

also looking forward to creating an entire team of loli mages
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 01, 2017, 08:42:30 pm
Kana is a little bit ashamed that he didn't vote at all because he's a procrastinator, but he saw who the rest voted for and is okay with it. Voting for Beruka, Matthew and Lyn (for example) is good taste and Mustafa definitely deserves more love. Let's hope our favorite characters will appear!  ;D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on February 01, 2017, 09:00:01 pm
I voted for Beruka. Lots of times.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 02, 2017, 08:23:04 am
It seems that Fire Emblem Heroes is available to download and play!

In some places.

Not where I am, so I'll probably wait 'till I wake up to start it since Imma sleep soon, but still!

Hope everyone manages to get characters they like~ Try not to die!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 02, 2017, 09:12:30 am
You can play with an emulator if you want. I don't feel like it, though. I might if it comes out here officially, but I barely even have time for Grand Order.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 02, 2017, 11:29:26 am
It seems that Fire Emblem Heroes is available to download and play!

In some places.
Still in intro section and not actual gameplay yet, but installed and seems to be working fine here in Australia, on both Android and iOS. Though trying to play on either one will log you out of the other, so sticking with the Android version on my phone.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 02, 2017, 11:34:02 am
Looks like it's available and working in Europe right now. There's a lot of stuff to download, though (both from google play and in-game) so make sure you have enough space (>500MB).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Jynx on February 02, 2017, 11:41:05 am
Currently playing it from Europe. As Kana said, lots of stuff to download. But the game looks nice~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 02, 2017, 12:00:32 pm
Quick heads up:
Make sure to log into My Nintendo, where you can grab 10 extra Orbs for free (0 Platinum Points). Among other items for the game, if you have points that will expire soon anyway.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 02, 2017, 12:28:19 pm
I might try it out this weekend since it's in Australia. With any luck Nintendo's servers will have stopped crapping out by then.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 02, 2017, 01:29:12 pm
I've been trying since hours ago, but the game keeps crashing when I start it (I managed to download it just fine though). I thought it might be due to server issues, but I've looked and the message seems different. Anybody knows the minimum requirements? My phone is 2 years old and not that cutting-edge, but I thought it would suffice...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 02, 2017, 01:36:18 pm
I'm gonna credit it with Nintendo without any further information. They're terrible at internet things and server capacity.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on February 02, 2017, 02:43:15 pm
It doesnt even look available yet to dl on the US Google Play store -_-;
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 02, 2017, 04:02:31 pm
According to these pages
Spoiler
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nintendo.zaba&hl=es
http://www.meristation.com/noticias/fire-emblem-heroes-ya-disponible-en-ios-y-android/2173535
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/features/nintendo-fire-emblem-heroes-release-date-time-download-ios-android-apk-1655027
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/273000-fire-emblem-heroes-requires-internet-connection-at-all-time-conn
the minimum requirements are:

- iOS 8 or above / Android 4.2 or later
- 2GB RAM
- 1GB free space for the download and installation (full game is actually 547MB according to my phone)

The game seems to require you to be always online (but connects to servers intermittently), so it's highly advisable to use Wi-Fi as much as you can so it doesn't eat up your mobile data. (It eats up a lot of battery, too, by the way.) Speaking of internet connection stuff, everything worked perfectly for me while using my home's Wi-Fi, so I'm not sure where all these problems that most people seem to have come from. :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 02, 2017, 04:37:06 pm
Didn't have a single error while I was playing, though it probably depends on server capacity at different regions. As far as the game goes, been enjoying it so far. My luck with the gacha hasn't been too bad, either.

First set of 20 orbs used for summoning got me three 4* characters, even if all three were Blue. Out of the three, Oboro works well both as a tank (with anti-armour bonus on top) and for providing Def buff, while Peri also tanks like a champ while being fast (both as a Cavalry unit and Spd).

On my second summoning (once I got to 20 Orbs again), I was about to cry when I saw 4 Blue stones and only a single Red (while I had been hoping for more of both Red and Green characters). First summon I picked the Blue, and got a dud. Second try was the Red, and I got...
Spoiler
The 5* Marth.

... That's when I stopped, and used 8 Orbs to upgrade the castle to +60% EXP, instead of summoning more Blue characters, lol.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 02, 2017, 05:31:18 pm
According to these pages
Spoiler
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nintendo.zaba&hl=es
http://www.meristation.com/noticias/fire-emblem-heroes-ya-disponible-en-ios-y-android/2173535
http://gadgets.ndtv.com/apps/features/nintendo-fire-emblem-heroes-release-date-time-download-ios-android-apk-1655027
http://www.gonintendo.com/stories/273000-fire-emblem-heroes-requires-internet-connection-at-all-time-conn
the minimum requirements are:

- iOS 8 or above / Android 4.2 or later
- 2GB RAM
- 1GB free space for the download and installation (full game is actually 547MB according to my phone)

The game seems to require you to be always online (but connects to servers intermittently), so it's highly advisable to use Wi-Fi as much as you can so it doesn't eat up your mobile data. (It eats up a lot of battery, too, by the way.) Speaking of internet connection stuff, everything worked perfectly for me while using my home's Wi-Fi, so I'm not sure where all these problems that most people seem to have come from. :(

Buff, just barely have the 2GB of RAM. Okay, the game in my phone is only 70 MB, so something has probably gone wrong during the download/installation. Will try to reinstall and hope this time it works. Thanks everyone!

EDIT: Nope, it continues crashing. It doesn't even start, it just says the application has stopped...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 02, 2017, 07:34:41 pm
Hmm~ Still seems unavailable here. Elvis will continue to wait semi-patiently, I suppose~

Everything I've read and watched make it seem even more fun~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 02, 2017, 09:35:50 pm
Didn't have a single error while I was playing, though it probably depends on server capacity at different regions. As far as the game goes, been enjoying it so far. My luck with the gacha hasn't been too bad, either.

First set of 20 orbs used for summoning got me three 4* characters, even if all three were Blue. Out of the three, Oboro works well both as a tank (with anti-armour bonus on top) and for providing Def buff, while Peri also tanks like a champ while being fast (both as a Cavalry unit and Spd).

On my second summoning (once I got to 20 Orbs again), I was about to cry when I saw 4 Blue stones and only a single Red (while I had been hoping for more of both Red and Green characters). First summon I picked the Blue, and got a dud. Second try was the Red, and I got...
Spoiler
The 5* Marth.

... That's when I stopped, and used 8 Orbs to upgrade the castle to +60% EXP, instead of summoning more Blue characters, lol.
Pretty good shtuff! I got a 5* Lyndis fairly early on. Her and 4* Ogma carried my lessers to good levels. Shortly after that, Hana appeared. So revon should keep playing until he can be worthy of her :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Megillot on February 02, 2017, 10:02:03 pm
Summoned my first extra hero and got Jagen. He's higher rank and stronger than all the others and can clear early maps alone. It's Fire Emblem alright.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on February 02, 2017, 11:20:13 pm
My first summon was none other than Sakura 4*~ so a moe miko already means great things abound! I also have Matthew as well so..Im starting strong!

My ID is: 7031376204 if you all want to add me 8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 03, 2017, 12:20:20 am
Something I read about Heroes that I find really awesome in it's own way: of the initial characters you can summon, they all come in some combination of Three, Four, or Five Star variants. While there are several characters that are only Five Stars, there is only a single unit, as far as I can tell, that can only be obtained at the lowest rating, with no higher version. Who is this unit?

Spoiler
Nino.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 03, 2017, 12:31:20 am
If you see a five star version of them, you know a lot of love and care went into raising that little cutie ~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 03, 2017, 12:39:27 am
The game seems to require you to be always online (but connects to servers intermittently), so it's highly advisable to use Wi-Fi as much as you can so it doesn't eat up your mobile data. (It eats up a lot of battery, too, by the way.) Speaking of internet connection stuff, everything worked perfectly for me while using my home's Wi-Fi, so I'm not sure where all these problems that most people seem to have come from. :(

Downloads are working fine for me from home wifi too, but by "The game seems to require you to be always online (but connects to servers intermittently), so it's highly advisable to use Wi-Fi as much as you can so it doesn't eat up your mobile data." do you mean it will connect in the background?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on February 03, 2017, 12:52:04 am
I got another 4* Sakura x_x My moe miko army grows...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Deeox2 on February 03, 2017, 01:03:02 am
Add me, kids.

8967712581
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 03, 2017, 01:16:28 am
8352046541 here.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 03, 2017, 01:22:35 am
The only 4* I got this far is Merric.

Downloads are working fine for me from home wifi too, but by "The game seems to require you to be always online (but connects to servers intermittently), so it's highly advisable to use Wi-Fi as much as you can so it doesn't eat up your mobile data." do you mean it will connect in the background?

Not sure what the websites I visited actually meant (something like this (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Always-on_DRM), maybe?), but I guess it only connects when you're using the app. The intermittently part sounds somehow similar to Nintendo 3DS' Streetpass. (Not sure if the energy recovery is also tracked this way or if the timer works offline.)

Btw, where can I find my ID?  :o
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 03, 2017, 01:36:56 am
The place where you add friends. The location at the bottom left of the home screen, then the magnifying glass for search.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 03, 2017, 02:15:18 am
ID: 6285385413
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 03, 2017, 02:24:46 am
Mine is 9400820722
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Megillot on February 03, 2017, 07:06:04 am
ID is 0642023663. I don't usually keep playing such farm games for long, so don't expect me to have high level army any time soon.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 03, 2017, 07:45:50 am
Added (hopefully) all of the currently revealed IDs to the first post! Might have missed some. I'll try and keep that list updated as more people reveal theirs, just as a way for everyone to stay connected~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 03, 2017, 08:13:58 am
Hector is 3rd place in votes yay!


How is Roy 2nd D:
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 03, 2017, 08:23:02 am
Your mileage may vary of course, due to RNG stat variations at level up. But having lucked out on my third summoning (second full summoning with full 20 Orbs), and a bit of time levelling them up, I can now report on the level 15 stats of at least two 5* characters.

Quote
Marth
Atk: 34
Spd: 19
Def: 14
Res: 15
Quote
Chrom
Atk: 35
Spd: 13
Def: 15
Res: 9

By stats alone, Marth is far more well-rounded, with noticeably better Spd and Res stats. Where Chrom makes up for it (somewhat) is with better skills, with access to Daylight/Sol/Aether. Both have Falchion though, which is great since it restores 10 HP every third turn.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 03, 2017, 10:13:34 am
Okay, so it seems other people also have had the same problem as me (coincidentally, the only video I've managed to find was of an Spanish guy too), but for now there's no fix.

So I'll have to wait *sigh*. Will likely share my code when I finally manage to play it...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 03, 2017, 10:24:25 am
Well, I haven't had super great luck with summons, but oh well.
ID is 4354361768
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 03, 2017, 10:27:26 am
Mm, I know how you feel, Marx. Got the exact same issue. It's not great, but at least we can wait together~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 03, 2017, 12:53:35 pm
The place where you add friends. The location at the bottom left of the home screen, then the magnifying glass for search.

I see, thanks!

My ID: 9126066413
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 03, 2017, 09:11:54 pm
Update on those with the same issue as Marx and myself: I found a way to get in and play the game through a couple different methods, and I feel I should share these. First, downloading the Nox Emulator (http://en.bignox.com/en/download/downloader), which will let one emulate Android and related Apps on PC. However, you still won't be able to find the game through that App Store. From here, you need to download a certain APK- Qooapp (https://apps.qoo-app.com/en/app/880) will allow one to download and install the Japanese version of the game, while Aptoide (http://m.aptoide.com/installer) seems to do the same for the US version. I'm not sure if such things exist for other regions, nor if it really matters. Hopefully, this will help others get in and play. I'd prefer to run it on my actual tablet, but, at this point, I'm happy to simply play at all.

It's also worth noting that it seems impossible to change one's name from the default of Kiran, or so it seems for me, but everything else seems to work. Presumably, if one could link this account to their Nintendo Account, and then transfer it over later on to a proper device, it would be simple enough to edit, so if that is an issue for you, it might not be permanent anyway.

My ID seems to be 2937596750, by the way.

Updated: February 03, 2017, 09:39:00 pm
Huh. My very first summon, I get Lyn~ Quite happy with this development. Also got Robin and Lucina, which are pretty nice also. No lolis yet... but their time will come~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 03, 2017, 11:13:06 pm
So many Kirans smh
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 04, 2017, 01:17:06 am
Well, Fffffffff...

On my tablet, for my secondary Nintendo account (used for my 3DS rather than my New 3DS), I got better draws on my first 20 Orb summoning than my main account:
Red 3* Palla
Red 4* Tiki (Awakening version)
Red 4* Tharja
Red 5* Lucina
White 5* Takumi

... Well, at least I can use this to help gather more data on a bigger range of characters, and maybe help work out how much effort I should put into getting certain characters in the future.
Spoiler
And, of course, not having to spend extra effort into getting mai waifu (Tharja) on my main account anymore. Phew.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 04, 2017, 06:05:01 am
I'll be taking break from game, spending regenerating stamina to lvl my main team to lvl 40 I guess. No need to use potions to speed up the leveling when their lvls get reset on rank up, and can't progress in story for now because I lack ranged unit or healer, or a tank in that matter. will be checking in 10 days of log in to see if i can get a ranged unit atleast in 5 pull.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mrgw4 on February 04, 2017, 07:17:16 am
Well I've actually bugged most of you with a request already but my ID is 869866883 for anyone curious. *Hides back in the world of the lurkers.*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 05, 2017, 02:31:34 am
My number is 3391353842.

I got a 3* Eliwood, Est, and Bartre, and 4* Hinata and Sophia from my first roll. I haven't really played any of their games, but Est is a Pegasus Knight and Sophia reminds me a bit of Sashiel, so I like them :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 05, 2017, 07:28:07 am
Added Gamer's ID to the opening post~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 05, 2017, 11:16:16 am
I Fight against for my Friends!

Superior Friendship Code of Destruction : 2500506755 - Kane is my name, pain is my game.

PD:Still no Tellius Hotties...

I got lucky and got a crazy good Hana and ridiculously strong Beruka

Alfonse though...is the biggest dissapointment since Eliwoods son. #ShitTalking

Updated: February 05, 2017, 11:55:42 am
Well I've actually bugged most of you with a request already but my ID is 869866883 for anyone curious. *Hides back in the world of the lurkers.*

You are missing one number there. Please check again Legendary Kiwi
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mrgw4 on February 05, 2017, 08:54:50 pm
Gah! an 8 hath slipped away way from me! the shame! *Scribbles 8869866883 in its place.*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on February 06, 2017, 04:26:45 am
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/110/380/de3.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 06, 2017, 08:02:33 am
They've just updated with "Launch Celebration" Special Maps. Or in other words, if they're keeping the same format throughout, easy +6 Orbs every week for the next 5 weeks.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 06, 2017, 11:24:05 am
I got 5* Takumi yesterday. He's so OP! :o I can't wait to unlock Close Counter.

(http://i.imgur.com/zTEgBX5.jpg)


Alfonse though...is the biggest dissapointment since Eliwoods son. #ShitTalking

At least you didn't spend all your crystals on him by mistake. (My Alfonse is lv20 now. ¬¬)


(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/110/380/de3.jpg)

xD


They've just updated with "Launch Celebration" Special Maps. Or in other words, if they're keeping the same format throughout, easy +6 Orbs every week for the next 5 weeks.

Yeah, 6 easy orbs is always nice. :3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Jynx on February 06, 2017, 11:52:32 am
8790998823 is my ID~
Also I've been having terrible luck with my summonings... Still no 5* and my team is made out of people I don't even know "._.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 06, 2017, 12:12:30 pm
Takumi is apparently the most OP character, rivalled by Hector. I got myself a 4*Cordelia and Ogma, and they ALWAYS double attack on offence. Sometimes even quad attack! Still no 5*s, so you and I can share in that, Jynx.

Also, I'm gonna try and upgrade the OG characters because why not? They may start as 2*, but maybe they'll get better~!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 06, 2017, 02:44:15 pm
(http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/110/380/de3.jpg)

Proof that my Fates waifus is best grill and hottest girl despite what her icy and cold attitude might make people
Think

Plus Hoshido Peasants cannot even support her. Top tier waifu indeed.

I've attached thebdraft I got today, I'll upload it properly later
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on February 06, 2017, 03:15:47 pm
/me pats Johnny in condolences.

I see your army isnt flush with Pegasus ZR knights and Mikos as mine sir. I expected more from you :p
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 06, 2017, 03:55:27 pm
I have no mikos, but I have Pegasus Knights at least~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Megillot on February 06, 2017, 04:08:25 pm
I got myself a 4*Cordelia and Ogma, and they ALWAYS double attack on offence. Sometimes even quad attack!

They come equipped with brave weapons. If you encounter them in the arena and forget about that and build your defensive formation based on fight preview screen during your turn, like me, you're up for a nasty surprise during enemy turn x_x
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 06, 2017, 04:17:07 pm
/me pats Johnny in condolences.

I see your army isnt flush with Pegasus ZR knights and Mikos as mine sir. I expected more from you :p

I find Heavy Full Plate Armor sexy as well. *Sheena and Beruka come to mind*

I do have Florina with A grade ZR and Hana with assymetric C grade though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on February 06, 2017, 04:57:40 pm
I have acquired a 5* Peri. Tremble before me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 06, 2017, 05:31:44 pm
I do have Florina with A grade ZR and Hana with assymetric C grade though.

Same here. Also got Clarine with ZR boots. :3
I have a few ponytail characters, but still no twintails.


I have acquired a 5* Peri. Tremble before me.

So lucky! >/////< Congrats!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 07, 2017, 03:05:58 am
I have somehow mustered some of Elvis' power for lolis. Despite already having a 4* Nowi, today I summoned not one, but two more Nowis of 4* and 5* respectively. And I got a male robin, so my game just got buffed because he's never leaving the party :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 07, 2017, 03:18:47 am
I got a robin too... A 3* robin...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on February 07, 2017, 03:44:17 am
I have somehow mustered some of Elvis' power for lolis. Despite already having a 4* Nowi, today I summoned not one, but two more Nowis of 4* and 5* respectively. And I got a male robin, so my game just got buffed because he's never leaving the party :P


My Stahl is lonely without a Nowi......but then, I got Cherche and Minerva today~ so I guess I cant complain to much. Still- Nino is best loli mage!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 07, 2017, 07:04:31 am
I have somehow mustered some of Elvis' power for lolis. Despite already having a 4* Nowi, today I summoned not one, but two more Nowis of 4* and 5* respectively. And I got a male robin, so my game just got buffed because he's never leaving the party :P
The loli is strong in this one.

Now just need to manage to activate my own powers and get at least one o' those for my own. Though,

Nino is best loli mage!
is entirely accurate~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Jynx on February 07, 2017, 12:26:09 pm
/me summoned... Eh... A 4* Eliwood?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 07, 2017, 01:08:05 pm
My poor Hana's stat growths are horrible. Why does the game hate her that much? ;_;
Looks like the colosseum PvP season ended and I got 1200 feathers, maybe if I increase Hana's rarity she'll get better? (' · w · ')


I got a robin too... A 3* robin...

Same here.

>hear the music
>see the cinematic
>it's robin
>omigosh.jpg
>3 stars
>mfw

(http://i.imgur.com/gS7C2WV.jpg)

At least he's one of the few blue "mages" in the game, so he'll have some niche uses, I guess.

I also got 3* Sully, 4* Arthur and 4* Raigh in the same summoning. Arthur's Emerald Axe makes the weapon triangle even more important, while 4* Raigh is playable, not like the default one you get. He's got a nice anti-cavalry spell.

Also got 5* Abel and he's awesome! Dat Brave Lance+! Maybe I should create a cavalry team and unlock Gunther's amazing cavalry buff skill.

Looks like we can get Lissa today! Yes! This will be the beginning of Kana's twintail army! MWAHAHAHA


My Stahl is lonely without a Nowi......

(http://i.imgur.com/ItxXCFL.png)


I almost forgot. There's a FE Heroes Wiki. http://feheroes.wiki/Main_Page Looks useful.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on February 07, 2017, 01:12:51 pm
I got a 3* Cherche as my only other Green, and a second 4* Cordelia. Also rolled a 4* Serena, so gonna start levelling her instead of my 3* one. Red hair and twintails seem to go hand in hand with me.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Jynx on February 07, 2017, 01:49:28 pm
My poor Hana's stat growths are horrible. Why does the game hate her that much? ;_;
Looks like the colosseum PvP season ended and I got 1200 feathers, maybe if I increase Hana's rarity she'll get better? (' · w · ')



Good luck with that. Increasing rarity from 4* to 5* requires something like 20k feathers and 20 crystals. Lots of grinding ahead.
As for me, I'm currently frustrated by 9-5 on Normal... Someone can help? I'd need Blue fighters, but my only 4* Blue is Odin, and he's not, how to say... Too strong.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on February 07, 2017, 02:34:20 pm
>> Jynx, one must endure trials and tribulations to provide for a waifu! I can assure you, Hana is worth it 8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 07, 2017, 02:48:14 pm
>> Jynx, one must endure trials and tribulations to provide for a waifu! I can assure you, Hana is worth it 8)

My Hana makes Ryouma look like a casul.
But I'm also missing a reliable Blue Fighter, and a non sucky thief , magician or archer
Red is covered by Hana and godlike Lucy
Green has Beruka and Sheena.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 07, 2017, 11:02:35 pm
I got a robin too... A 3* robin...

Same here.

>hear the music
>see the cinematic
>it's robin
>omigosh.jpg
>3 stars
>mfw

(http://i.imgur.com/gS7C2WV.jpg)
Holy fuck that was literally me

Also, I got a 4* raigh and a 4* odin my first summon, so that was nice
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 08, 2017, 08:56:33 am
I got a robin too... A 3* robin...

Same here.

>hear the music
>see the cinematic
>it's robin
>omigosh.jpg
>3 stars
>mfw

(http://i.imgur.com/gS7C2WV.jpg)
Holy fuck that was literally me

Same here. The dissappointment was real. Last time I was so dissapointed was when Corrin came up with the dumbeet plan in FE Fates Conquest.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 09, 2017, 07:10:49 am
Results are out. (https://events.fire-emblem-heroes.com/vote/result)

Spoiler
Lyn seems to be, by far, the most popular character in the series.

Cool.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on February 09, 2017, 07:15:23 am
I seem to attract lots of Fates people in my summoning. Beruka, Corrin, Subaki, Peri, Felicia, Setsuna, Gunter, Hinata, and now Elise.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 12, 2017, 10:31:39 am
So, I loaded up an emulator version of FE:Heroes, just for kicks. The luck (or rather, lack thereof) displayed in my first summon sums up how I've been doing lately.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/gbD2tYq.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 12, 2017, 05:17:02 pm
Wow that is unlucky. Unbelievably so
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 12, 2017, 07:10:53 pm
Saved up for another summon, but as I understand, Ephraim and Eirika will be joining the game very soon. 15th Feb, I think it is. And nothing will stand between me and my favourite sibling lords!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 13, 2017, 01:37:35 am
finally got nowi. my 4* team now has a lolibait to lure enemy.



also grats on saizo and olivia :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 13, 2017, 01:55:39 am
For my alt account, which started great in getting 5* Lucina and 5* Takumi, but has been relatively mediocre for the last 40 Orbs (well, at least no 3* wipeouts to date), I was debating whether to wait for the new sets or take the increased appearance rate. In the end, hoping for some characters with well-balanced stats like Marth, I took the gamble.

4 Reds, 1 Colourless. Seems like perfect for summoning Marth, then:
Red 4* Caeda
Red 4* Hana
Red 3* Lon'qu
Red 3* Selena

... With only the colourless left, my face:
(http://i.imgur.com/ihhzL9E.jpg)
Because it's not like I could even hope for another Takumi or something, right?

... Then I start to see Takumi's summoning movie, but I still shouldn't have my hope up since the movie can trigger even with 3* characters, if the character is one of the focus ones, right?
Spoiler
Then I start seeing the gold stars dropping onto the screen.
(http://i.imgur.com/3rZZy1P.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 13, 2017, 02:28:04 am
>_>

My last 80 orbs have all been worthless.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 13, 2017, 11:43:13 am
So, on matters beside Heroes (in which Nintendo still hasn't resolved my issue, *grumble*grumble), we know more about Echoes:
- Magic costs HP to cast, like in the original Gaiden; it also seems like new spells will be learnt by leveling up, like in the original too
- While it is still a bit unknown, it also seems like there will neither weapon triangle nor weapon durability in the game. Again, ditto in the original Gaiden.

Overall, it seems like new information is showing that mechanically the game will be more and more similar to the original. Supports seemed to appear in bonuses, but there's a good chance it won't be a straightforward support system: maybe more like the conversation system of FE12?

While some of this changes might seem wild, it makes sense to conserve many things of Gaiden, as its overall a fairly special game that was balanced around its special systems. Basically, because the player could grind as much as they wanted, later levels difficulty focuses more on hidden events and special positioning than simply improving enemy stats. The player was expected to learn the rules of the A.I. not to break the game, but simply to go through the more challenging levels. The growth rates are also relatively low, but in exchange promotion gains are higher, and because of this and the higher amount of battles there are 3-tier promotions (like in Radiant Dawn). To minimize the effects of free leveling, equipment was also even more important than in regular FEs, adding plethora of bonus effects.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 13, 2017, 07:02:38 pm
Oh my~ That all sounds pretty cool to me. Really looking forward to giving it a go~

As for Heroes, I'll say, I still can't play it on my tablet either. At this point I've given up and decided to just stick to emulation. I think it might be an issue with not having enough RAM... or somethin', but I can't be certain.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 15, 2017, 04:12:20 pm
So the new update for Fire Emblem Heroes went live this morning, adding Seliph, Julia, Eirika and Ephraim as characters. There are also paralogues now! Three maps featuring the new heroes, good for some quick orbs to summon them. Lunatic was fun for me because I got pinned with just Lyndis and Serra against Eirika and Ephraim, but managed to win by dealing 2 damage to Ephraim with Serra, then running around in a circle for four more turns before doing it again (ace strats ladies and gentlemen 8) ).

On my first 20 summon, I didn't get any of the big four, but after completing the lunatic missions I was deemed worthy, and my 5* Eirika-sama will now ride with me into battle! ^-^ She also came with a 4*s Gwendolyn, Cherche and Palla, and 3* Donnel.

/me is very happy!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 15, 2017, 05:28:37 pm
Oh, so FE:Heroes released 2 pairs of the most incestuous siblings in the franchise for St. Valentine's Day?

Never change Fire Emblem, never change~.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Lord Ignatz on February 15, 2017, 06:00:02 pm
Lunatic was fun for me because I got pinned with just Lyndis and Serra against Eirika and Ephraim, but managed to win by dealing 2 damage to Ephraim with Serra, then running around in a circle for four more turns before doing it again (ace strats ladies and gentlemen 8) ).

Yeah! Twintail powa! Serra ftw! I've run around in circles more times than I'd like to admit, too. xD


On my first 20 summon, I didn't get any of the big four, but after completing the lunatic missions I was deemed worthy, and my 5* Eirika-sama will now ride with me into battle! ^-^ She also came with a 4*s Gwendolyn, Cherche and Palla, and 3* Donnel.

/me is very happy!


Not bad! Congrats!

I tried to summon Eirika, but not a single orb thingy was red. There were two blue ones, so I hoped I could get Ephraim. Got another 3* Donny... and Corrin (female) 4*! :D
Then I tried another summon, but only one orb was red. "Unfortunately", it wasn't Eirika... but Lucina!
Today wasn't a really orb efficient day, but I'm glad I got these two girls. :3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 16, 2017, 02:44:44 am
/me weeps for the last 100 orbs that have brought him nothing
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 17, 2017, 12:13:53 pm
Oh... Echoes has a section within this week's Famitsu. Nothing really special: Casual and Classic mode are confirmed. Archers have in increase of +1 range and can counterattacks close range attacks like in Gaiden, but it seems instead of per defect it will be handled in some kind of "class skill" system; this may mean the terribly broken 5 range horse archers may not return, but it's not a big loss (the main problem is that your archers in Gaiden were pretty trash, so only the fact that their class was pretty broken saved them). Also, it seems some kind of food system may return.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 17, 2017, 01:16:10 pm
Oh, so FE:Heroes released 2 pairs of the most incestuous siblings in the franchise for St. Valentine's Day?

Never change Fire Emblem, never change~.

We need Seth back to make Eirika Non Incestual shipping Great Again!

Badasses First. Bring the Unholy Seth-Titania-Haar Trinity to Fire emblem Heroes!



Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 19, 2017, 04:07:54 pm
http://imgur.com/a/lHwxW

Do I restart now...


also I drew Naotsugu from Log Horizon it seems.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 19, 2017, 10:15:41 pm
Who would need to restart when they have a Nowi in their party~

if you do can I keep her
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 20, 2017, 01:47:26 am
I have a nowi... I also only have 2 5*'s because my last 8 draws have been nothing...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on February 21, 2017, 08:40:46 pm
I was feeling kinda low when I botched my no death run in Dark Souls 2 ...  aproximately one hour hour from finishing the game.
(For those asking I was heading towards the Giant Lord and forgot about the Instakill Head Roll of doom, sitting on SL 150  with  35 Vigor, 30 Stamina, 75 Poise, solid 50 Str and rocking dual maces, so let's say Throne Watchers and Nasandra were gona be rekt n under 20 seconds)


So I decided to do some of the Weapon challenges in Fire Emblem If. And as I got up to 22 orbs, I decided to try and summon.


And holy shit.... DID IT DELIVER

Starts with a 5 Star Seliph

Follow up with a 4 Star Arthur

5 Star Julia

4 Star Lon Qu

5 STAR MALE CHAINSWORD CORRIN


Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/HlF1PJN.png)

So the moral of this story is.... When you are feeling down and unlucky.... PRAISE THE  SUN, and struggle onward! RNG-sama will provide.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 22, 2017, 07:29:28 am
And holy shit.... DID IT DELIVER

Starts with a 5 Star Seliph

Follow up with a 4 Star Arthur

5 Star Julia

4 Star Lon Qu

5 STAR MALE CHAINSWORD CORRIN


Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/HlF1PJN.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/JKnuX7I.gif)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on February 22, 2017, 08:19:12 am
Starts with a 5 Star Seliph

Follow up with a 4 Star Arthur

5 Star Julia

4 Star Lon Qu

5 STAR MALE CHAINSWORD CORRIN


Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/HlF1PJN.png)

I'm so jealous of that summon that I'm mad at myself for my own emotional silliness. You lucky bastard XD
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 23, 2017, 01:15:31 am
That one summon has more 5* characters than I've ever summoned...

Wow.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 23, 2017, 05:26:57 pm
Maybe if i send Eliwood back to home I'll get such blessing too
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on February 23, 2017, 07:36:56 pm
The more Arena battles I do the more I'm convinced they literally do not care about any sort of balance.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: ShadowX on February 24, 2017, 03:01:53 am
See this?????

This is my 9th draw with nothing.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/pwkYLSp.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on February 24, 2017, 09:27:20 pm
The more Arena battles I do the more I'm convinced they literally do not care about any sort of balance.

srsly. They pit my 4* team vs 5* spam and I win just because ai sucks.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Jynx on February 26, 2017, 11:15:13 am
Sorry, I had to share - apparently, Kurumi has a competitor now.

Spoiler

(http://i.imgur.com/4L3GGCi.jpg)

In case someone didn't know, Takumi is also Rev's character in AdEva.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 26, 2017, 11:44:19 am
I deigned not to tell revon about Takumi's creepy stalker retainer ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: rellimkram on March 01, 2017, 08:34:59 pm
Hooray for my best summon yet!
Summon Details~
5* Loli Tiki started things off right.
5* Ephraim followed, keeping things strong.
4* Beruka came next; a great addition, as I didn't have her yet.
3* Gwedolyn marks the descent of my luck, as she is both a repeat and lower rarity than my other Gwendolyn.
3* Cecilia wraps things up, but is welcome, as my other Cecilias came from a Special map, meaning the best was only 2*.
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/53dPJFM.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 01, 2017, 09:06:36 pm
/me cheers for rell, pretending he isn't sad that one more loli Tiki has fallen into the hands of another.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on March 03, 2017, 07:52:37 pm
So.....I just wasted another 20 orbs on a summon. While notthing remarkable, I did get a strange fellow. Should I even ask about this...Gaius 'Candy Stealer' ? >>;
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 04, 2017, 02:57:07 am
Gaius is a prince among men. Pay him sugar, he will do all the killing things. Much rate.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 04, 2017, 10:15:01 am
HafGHGSDAHGGSJHHGASDA

They finally updated the game and I can play it. One month late, but I can play it. And of course, my first summoning session ended being a big damm joke: 2 jeigan 4 stars, 1 Tharja and Gaius (4 stars too) and a 3 stars Felicia. Objectively, having so many 4 stars should be lucky, but I can't help but think the game is kinda mocking me...

Also, I'll probably going to add most of you during today.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 05, 2017, 03:21:36 am
calmly waits 10 days so i can get a 5*  D:
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 05, 2017, 08:48:36 am
Upon having a Jegan for the third time in my third summoning session, I realized what the game was trying to tell me. I'm the Jegan of this forum...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on March 06, 2017, 10:26:13 pm
Hmmmm Ive never got a Jegan, but I have 4 Sakuras. Im gine being the forum's Sakura tho 8)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 11, 2017, 03:57:08 pm
New Shadows of Valentia trailer, and it's super-hype! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g7CKYVgVuO0)

Things to take from it:
- The animated cutscenes mix 3D CG with 2D backgrounds. Each on their own are very competent, but the mix it's a bit jarring. Overall it seems the budget isn't as high as for Fates, but I spotted at least 6 different moments of the game animated, so maybe they're going for quantity and focus?
- I don't like Rudolf's, the Emperor from Rigel, redesign that much (he's supposed to be in his 40s or 50s at most), though I get why they have done it.
- It really seems like they're going to expand the story a fair bit, which is pretty cool. The original Gaiden had a lot of neat details underneath its semi-standard story (like most of Kaga's games), but as a NES game it was very undeveloped. While we shouldn't expect a masterpiece, it's pretty likely the story may be a good show of a classic FE story (which will be a good contrast for those who have only played Awakening and Fates).
- The armours in this game simply look cool. Awakening and Fates had a lot of cool designs, but the armours were generally sh*t, with maybe only some Nohrian exceptions. It's nice to see again balanced design with armour that both looks cool and practical (Alm's it's a particular highlight for combining a gambeson with plate, which is cool and accurate). I have even seen some lamellar armour for horses, which is extremely neat in that almost every historical armour for horses was lamellar buit every fantasy game always goes for plate. I didn't realize just how well Hidari's design suit Fire Emblem.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Deeox2 on March 14, 2017, 11:27:00 pm
So I started playing Path of Radiance.

Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/1HS3Ucb.jpg)

THIS IS ONLY THE FOURTH LEVEL WHAT THE HECK IS
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 14, 2017, 11:39:28 pm
>:D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on March 15, 2017, 11:35:34 am
NICE!
Spoiler
(http://i.imgur.com/P9Y1vmp.jpg)

I suppose that's a reasonable trade-off for 120 Orbs in a row for the same Focus.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on March 15, 2017, 05:42:34 pm
/me looks at his recent acquisition of a 5* Ryoma......and still feels jealous. Pretty girls man...pretty [email protected][email protected]
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 16, 2017, 03:21:17 pm
So, even if I might be alone I'm still super-hyped about Echoes, so let me again make a round-up of more news that come about it. It helps me put my mind in order too!

- All attacks now do at least 1 damage, even if the enemy's attacks is a lot lower than your defence. This actually something I've always liked about the NES and SNES FEs, so I'm excited by the return. It takes out a lot of the sillier situations in FEs, when you or the enemy can easily cheese some parts (I mean, your general will still be able to hold those 10+ enemies for a lot of time, but now you can't leave him there for a 100+ turns).
- There's no divide between magic and strength like in the GBA games. Probably the only thing I've seen about the game that I overtly dislike. I honestly don't know how they will handle Celica then, because she uses both magic and swords.
- OP terrain (like, graves give you 60 avoid) returns in part to compensate the lack of weapon triangle. Magic however does not take into account terrain bonuses, so mages will still be super important even if now they're even more fragile due to magic using HP. I've spied some OP magic also returning, so yeah, learn to use yoru mages boys (and girls)!
- Supports are confirmed to be in-game, together with in-battle conversations (using the talk command between your units when available). Pair-up however, it's obviously out. I personally would prefer if supports are kept out of battle (my favourite system in that would be one like in Path of Radiance), however we don't know enough to confirm it either way.
- Equipment has been rebalanced so it's not as powerful as before, and in exchange it seems they added the option to equip food, which may be sorta like a vulnerary. Only one object can be equipped per person (in Gaiden, if you don't have any weapon equipped you fight with a generic weapon with 0 might, 90 hit and 0 weight).
- Story has been revamped and as of now it looks very cool. There are a number of new characters too. I won't share the details though, because half of it only makes sense if you know of Gaiden's previous plot and I run in the risk of revealing spoilers unintentionally.
- There will be a casual and classic mode, and a normal and hard mode. Gaiden itself is with Thracia 776 the most challenging FE game, so I'm wondering how hard will the vanilla game be. Also, "Milla's gear" is introduced, which will introduce the limited ability to rewind your movements: I'm fairly open to it, as long as it's fairly limited, because it seems to focus more on the kind of stupid mistake you don't really mean to make that on making the game a lot easier. we really don't know much about it though, so it might be something quite different lol.
- Everyone still looks fuck*ng hot, fabulous, and cool. Battle animations look even better than in fates, with a certain Radiant dawn style. The story will be fully voiced too! (I don't expect supports to be, though that is a small price to pay compared to Fates and Awakening voice acting). After seeing this and re-looking at the animations, it seems I was fairly wrong thinking that they lowered the budget compared to Fates. The fact that team seems willing to go all out on such a classic FE makes me recover a lot of faith in IS.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 16, 2017, 05:43:59 pm
Actually, I'm very excited for it as well! My 3DS broke a while back and I fully admit that this game is most of the reason I replaced it. It's looking like it'll be a lot of fun- though, for once, I'm ignoring most of the news/story details about it so I can fully enjoy it when I get to it. Really glad there're going to be supports though~ Shadow Dragon was fun to play, but it really could've used them, and I'm glad they're including them here. Must've learned a thing or two from New Mystery.

Also really excited for a fully voiced story, and the thought that this'll continue in later games, perhaps. Was really a bit of a bummer to have nothing but grunts and random phrases in the last couple games, and sometimes I felt I'd seriously prefer no voices at all.

Now, to just hope for some cute lolis to appear and everything will be perfect. Though, they aren't a requirement by a long shot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 16, 2017, 08:09:14 pm
I hadn't forgot about you Elvis, it's just that at this point I will literally not care in the least even if I'm the only one hyped~~

Lolis, eh... With Hidari's art most girls are a bit ambiguous there, so for me it's a bit hard to distinguish. Maybe Silque (http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-of-valentia/march-15-2017/Fire-Emblem-Echoes-Shadows-of-Valentia_2017_03-15-17_015.png), Faye (http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-of-valentia/march-15-2017/Fire-Emblem-Echoes-Shadows-of-Valentia_2017_03-15-17_013.png) or Genny (http://gematsu.com/gallery/albums/fire-emblem-echoes-shadows-of-valentia/march-15-2017/Fire-Emblem-Echoes-Shadows-of-Valentia_2017_03-15-17_020.png) fit the bill?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 16, 2017, 08:26:57 pm
None of 'um really seem like lolis to me, but they're still pretty neat~ Genny's kinda cute in her own way as well~ I like her hair, and her expression. Plus, always good to have some healers 'round. And Silque has nice hair and an interesting outfit.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 16, 2017, 09:19:36 pm
So, even if I might be alone I'm still super-hyped about Echoes, so let me again make a round-up of more news that come about it. It helps me put my mind in order too!
Did I get forgotten about too? :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 16, 2017, 09:45:14 pm
Well, I hope I forgot everyone, but it's reassuring to see explicit confirmation~~

Silque and Genny were fairly loli in the original, but in that kinda ambiguous way. There's one future character that might be a more explicit loli, but she's also in that nebulous 14 range that can go up and down depending on the deign. Uhm... Do you consider Est a loli Elvis? Or needs to be Tiki range for that?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on March 16, 2017, 10:20:53 pm
Est? Going by her designs in Heroes, Awakening DLC, and the like... nope. I don't really consider the 'young teen' age to be loli, for the simple fact that, with rare exceptions, I'm not really attracted to that physique. I mean, I like Florina a lot, for instance, one of my favorite characters across the series and still my favorite Pegasus Knight, but she's not a loli. In my opinion at least.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 16, 2017, 10:55:37 pm
Est? Going by her designs in Heroes, Awakening DLC, and the like... nope. I don't really consider the 'young teen' age to be loli, for the simple fact that, with rare exceptions, I'm not really attracted to that physique. I mean, I like Florina a lot, for instance, one of my favorite characters across the series and still my favorite Pegasus Knight, but she's not a loli. In my opinion at least.
I'd agree that Florina isn't a loli. Same for Est~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 16, 2017, 11:54:58 pm
Hum, I do tend to consider a loli as a young teen (12~15 range), so it was probably that. Well, I see the specifics of lolidom are highly regulated, and I underestimated them. I go to sleep having learnt something new~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Deeox2 on March 18, 2017, 12:09:37 am
WAIT WAIT WAIT, HOLD THE FREAKIN' PHONE

the nations in freakin' fire emblem heroes are named after the first man and woman in norse mythology like IS, MY MAN, DUDE.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on March 18, 2017, 05:58:08 am
/me looks at his recent acquisition of a 5* Ryoma......and still feels jealous. Pretty girls man...pretty [email protected][email protected]
So about Ryoma...

Spoiler
Suddenly this happened, and on my main account too (finally):

(http://i.imgur.com/BnNroNA.jpg)

Somehow I get the feeling that a lot of accounts are suddenly going to have Lon'qu disappear from the roster list, lol. Meanwhile, Marth with New Moon (to be replaced by Moonbow with another 80 SP) is pretty awesome, too.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 18, 2017, 08:37:39 am
WAIT WAIT WAIT, HOLD THE FREAKIN' PHONE

the nations in freakin' fire emblem heroes are named after the first man and woman in norse mythology like IS, MY MAN, DUDE.

Norse references have been a staple through all FE history, so I suppose Heroes recovered that. I think only Tellius and Fates forgot about them, and even then they used them at least for some names. FE4 is basically based on the Völsung cycle (the main sword is even called Tyrfing).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 21, 2017, 11:11:30 pm
So the UK trailer for the limited edition dropped today. Along with the game's physical, Echoes also comes with a pin of Alm, a pin of Celica and (because why the hell not, presumably) a pin of Marth. It also features the usual soundtrack selection CD and artbook. Along with this, the limited edition also includes the amiibos of Alm and Celica so you don't have to buy them separately!

Now for the bad news. America's limited edition is mostly the same, but it doesn't come with the amiibos. Also, neither of the editions will feature the awesome blu-ray that Japan's had featuring all the cutscenes from all fire emblem games since Path of Radiance. And finally - and most importantly - I can't find where to preorder! :D I don't know if I missed it (unlikely) or if it just isn't up yet - confusing given that the site has a Purchase Options button which leads to the item description but no buy buttons. More info appreciated!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 22, 2017, 08:25:31 am
From what I know, Gamestop has opened pre-orders of the American limited edition, but Amazon still hasn't (they have a page ready for it though, so it is imminent). In the European case, nothing has been revealed (not even the price): you'll realize most of the retailers don't even have the standard edition open to pre-orders. Nintendo store doesn't have it, for example.

Also, besides the limited edition they've also released a new trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBa7hd6FDzI). I won't say much, because what it mostly does is confirm what we already suspected. The only really new thing is now we have the town interface, which is different from the dungeon one.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 22, 2017, 04:31:09 pm
Ahh, okay. I've only been checking Nintendo's page themselves. It didn't even trigger to me that we didn't have a price, I assumed that would only show if I found the right bit of the site :P

Another note, the EU (and presumably America?) versions are in english only. We're still being left without our handy dandy language switch button :(
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 25, 2017, 01:03:32 pm
Mini-update: The US LE has already launched on Amazon and has been sold out in minutes as expected. In Europe, Amazon from Germany released it (and it sold out as quickly) but nobody else has moved a finger: I seen some placeholders in other amazons though, so it's a matter of days if not hours. The german price was 90 euros, which honestly is a bit steep (costs more than the American version + amiboos), but being Europe we're used to being screwed over by prices.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on March 25, 2017, 02:24:45 pm
You can always try out hacking of 3ds.
It is more or less easy ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 27, 2017, 12:40:04 pm
Another mini-share of Echoes news, after Nintendo showed a playable demo at some Dutch con:

-GBA style supports (in the middle of battle) return. Not super-happy, but it's better that no supports at all.
-Weapons now teach you skills as you use them, instead of them being class-related. Also, skills seem to work a bit like magic, in that they provide a bonus to one attack in exchange of HP
- A fatigue system return to FE after 18 years. Instead of the infamous one of Thracia 776 however, it will be one that will simply lower your stats as you gain fatigue. Using food outside of battle will heal fatigue, but using it in battle will heal your HP: we'll have to choose wisely.
-Also, a very Gaiden-like feel. Be ready to have tons of 70 for hit rates and for the RNG to bend you over.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 27, 2017, 03:49:11 pm
It was also revealed that 8-4 will be doing the translation for Echoes, rather than Treehouse. Treehouse did Fates, whereas 8-4 did Awakening, as well as other games such as Nier Automata
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: AkioKlaus on March 27, 2017, 10:20:06 pm
haha. leo with shit inherited rides across map and does 70 dmg with all the buffs stacked
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 29, 2017, 03:27:10 am
I can't really let this pass without a mention. Fire Emblem Heroes is running a spring event, which along with some new levels is introducing some...really strange changes...

https://youtu.be/YYdr0UhJXBY (https://youtu.be/YYdr0UhJXBY)

As the video shows, four of the recent games' most loved royal families are now...rabbits.
/me pauses to let elvis squee about Rabbit before continuing
Chrom now has an axe, Xander is using a giant carrot lance and Camilla and Lucina both have an Easter Egg tome of green and blue respectively.

Because why not?? Just imagine what will happen at Halloween!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 29, 2017, 08:54:33 pm
New Japanese trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awulH-5SA48) Nothing much new (except a few easter eggs you wouldn't recognize unless yo know about Gaiden), but a good reminder of why we're so hyped. Everything looks excellent.

As at this point we kinda know most of the changes, continuing telling things would be just telling spoilers, so I'll make this the last of my mini-posts about the game. I'll probably will share my hype though~~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on March 30, 2017, 08:56:20 am
Praised be to RNGod! (even if this is for my alt account, that somehow I've managed to save up 160+ free Orbs on)

Spoiler
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/mikebrand83/Screenshot_20170330-194941.jpg) (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/mikebrand83/Screenshot_20170330-190643.jpg)


EDIT:
Was honestly a bit disappointed, when I actually dropped some money into this, and my 8.5% appearance rate for 5* (4.25%+4.25%) on my main account gave me... Fae.

... Then the mighty RNGod showed me some mercy:
Spoiler
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/mikebrand83/Screenshot_2017-03-30-22-25-13.jpg) (http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/mikebrand83/Screenshot_2017-03-30-22-25-24.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 03, 2017, 10:18:04 pm
Okay, it seems data from FE Echoes has been leaked, a warning to everyone who wants to avoid spoilers. I pulled out early, but what little I've heard makes the game seem even better. I'm honestly very hyped: luckily this time we won't have to wait half a year.

Oh, and I might also have somehow sneaked on an Echoes limited edition. Just wanted to share my joy, I was very lucky because I manage to catch one of the few restocks~.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on April 03, 2017, 11:02:40 pm
Okay, it seems data from FE Echoes has been leaked, a warning to everyone who wants to avoid spoilers. I pulled out early, but what little I've heard makes the game seem even better. I'm honestly very hyped: luckily this time we won't have to wait half a year.

Oh, and I might also have somehow sneaked on an Echoes limited edition. Just wanted to share my joy, I was very lucky because I manage to catch one of the few restocks~.

Still no sign of the preorder on the EU site. Starting to wonder if Nintendo will be selling it themselves at all... :/
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 10, 2017, 05:22:41 pm
Okay, it seems data from FE Echoes has been leaked, a warning to everyone who wants to avoid spoilers. I pulled out early, but what little I've heard makes the game seem even better. I'm honestly very hyped: luckily this time we won't have to wait half a year.

Oh, and I might also have somehow sneaked on an Echoes limited edition. Just wanted to share my joy, I was very lucky because I manage to catch one of the few restocks~.

Still no sign of the preorder on the EU site. Starting to wonder if Nintendo will be selling it themselves at all... :/

I´ll go with the standard edition. I mean, I can only get the digital version.

As Marx says, Shadows of Valentia is looking really good (I´m not calling it Echoes because I think *Echoes* might end up being their Remake-Series name).


Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on April 20, 2017, 01:44:59 pm
Guess who's birthday it is today! I'll give you a clue...
(http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/137/218/66c.jpg)
It's actually both Lucina's and Fire Emblem itself's birthday today! 27 years ago on the 20th of April 1990, Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light was released unto the world~
Happy birthday, Fire Emblem! Oh, and Lucina too ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on April 20, 2017, 01:54:44 pm
Lucina's birthday is 420?!

(http://i.imgur.com/i4FhoOX.jpg)

Deeox2 [Apr 6, 2017, 10:37:43 pm]:   Blaze it
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 20, 2017, 02:06:32 pm
It is also the 12th birthday of Path of Radiance! And the day Shadows of Valentia goes out in Japan.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on April 20, 2017, 05:52:10 pm
Now that Japan have Shadows, the opening cutscene has been made available! Obvious spoilers if you want to wait and see it later, but I will say I have seen it.

And it is beautiful.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9wmpVKmFGU&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9wmpVKmFGU&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on April 20, 2017, 10:17:10 pm
Oh, yeah, there's also a small story fragment that has been released in English (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q92ARbpFSIA), for those who are nervous about the quality of the dub (it can count as early spoilers, but it's not something you won't see in the first 2 hours).

The internet has also wisely started to enthrone "Shut up Tobin" as a new FE meme, a task I find objectively good and wholesome.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on April 20, 2017, 10:17:49 pm
I like the sound of this. I can support a good meme quote :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on April 30, 2017, 12:46:08 pm
The memes are strogn in this one.

It doesn´t seem to be selling as great as the previous two games in JP though. Then again:

- It´s a Remake of a game they already had and was kinda bad when it came out
- It doesn´t have the Mu and Waifu rubbin´feature
- It´s a bit archaic on the gameplay department (Considering the Turn Based Battles only, the other features are kind of awesome for a FE game)
- "Urusai, Robin" doesn't sound half as good as "Shut up, Tobin"
- it's at the end of the life cycle of the 3Ds, 1 month after the release of a portable console from the same company that already has two main games for the franchise announced for 2017-2018

So it's time for the West to save the game, so that they decide to make remakes of the Jurgdral and Tellius series. Show IS we like games with a better narrative than Awakening and Fates and less cartoony villains!



Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 01, 2017, 11:45:12 am
The sales in JP seems to be about the par for the DS remakes and the GBA games: mediocre (for a Ninty game), but not outright bad. There are certainly a lot of reasons for it though (John does a good job recounting most of them), and in fact in a recent interview it was pointed that the game was supposed to release before the Switch, in a kind of Swan Song to the 3DS. Like Titor says, it will be up to the West! yes, we're screwed

On another note, I've been thinking a lot of stuff recently about the franchise: I suppose Heroes acts as a good reminder at least. And I still haven't reached much of a conclusion to the Tellius games. I liked a lot of the facts that they tried in PoR, but I always felt the final climax was kind of weak. In comparison, Radiant Dawn was a bit of a trainwreck with a lot of its stuff (especially its execution), but there was a lot of really good things in the midst of it (they were very bold with Micaiah's character arc for example), and the lack of supports tends to overshadows some terrific character writing (something similar happens with Shadow Dragon too, though I think that one is still too underwritten). So I guess I want to ask those who tried the Tellius games their thoughts. No need for an essay, just one or two lines is enough if it reflects what you think well enough.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 01, 2017, 06:28:54 pm
Like Titor says, it will be up to the West! yes, we're screwed


I don't why you're doubting if we will be succesful.  I have an absolute lack of faith   in my fellow Westerners appreciating the uniqueness of this FE title!


Turning to the Tellius games, and trying to keep it short so that others can join in , I think one of the best points of the Tellius games was the world building, and also showing how each and every single country had it's nice, it's  bad  and it's ugly side. Kind of remeniscient of the FE 6 & FE 7 games.
 
Think about it. At first Crimea seems to be the "Good country" that  get's invaded by the  "evil country"  of Daein , which is later fought back with the help of the  powerful  Begnion Empire ,where you still have Sanaki and Zelgius trying to right the wrongs of the corrupt senators and helping Elincia take back her country...

(RD spoilers ahead)

Spoiler
...Only to discover later  on in RD that Daein offered more opportunities to the lower clases and that it's citizens didn't have it all that bad and that they're being pretty much worked to death by the occupation forces, that most o the Crimean Noble Houses are a bunch of despicable turncoats that only like to fight when they are certain they can win something for themselves, or that pretty much the senators are responsible for all the  wars going around the continent or some of the  laguz (not counting the Feral Ones the Senators and Daein experimented on) being more feral and blood thirsty than how they seemed to be at first.

The characters are also less stereotypical for the most part and experience quite a bit of believable character development. Ike, Elincia go through a lot of character development throughout the two games.  Jill even suffers a full 180 turn on her beliefs in the first game alone.

And the Tellius games  having maybe the best antagonist in the series?

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on May 02, 2017, 08:18:46 am
Grand Hero Battle Xander (Lunatic), completed:
(http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c215/mikebrand83/4star_Xander.jpg)

Took a few different combinations of party members (and 1 Stamina Potion) to figure out how to pull it off, but it turned out Spring Lucina was the real MVP (supported by Azura with Sing). Given the similar stats and role as a fast, hard hitting Blue Mage, I can see why Linde is the focus character for the Battling Xander gacha.

For anybody playing FE Heroes that hasn't managed to pull a melee unit with ranged counterattack yet (or a ranged unit with Close Counter), try to get at least the 3* Xander, since upgrading him to 5* gives you access to Siegfried (which gives him ranged counterattack).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WhydidIbuytheunionfrigate on May 02, 2017, 03:33:19 pm
So I forgot to mention that I picked up FE: Heroes last Thurs. If any of you get a friend invite from Kurt Irving, it's me.

My team...
Spoiler
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p-OvQMC7FmIzWL9hes_egC8d-3XFVUik_ypyw9knONS4MVXwE7YrV_gc5_eFxeJzHosa2_jFqB4LZNqWLFN9hefUj40zaFBYTarW1mVpnNG7f3OJCsWccF5FMtz5ZbwjS4iJkAK7oG5LdtxX7zNH9Fl0cgzGvZHehbG5WvLyqLFK4mVzWWYRxsydIUSNFjPRzGHr4C8oKCP2ncY8Ul9aGvt6--lxPuAfUqGyy3gWeeeVJZxFj4rDk8WvQDhzW5CogphO2qOYxZf3PyZGDWwm6L_B1J7X7LK32Cnzy_9vVQNjBS2vG1drhXJZVUMQYRZWYXCTI6LqhCDMwKt2TLcn8Q0ZBoMA4Fbx3ev6MOWZsgxxBtLPr1QhUXIJICuxYxmdYLuY5Z0s1TxRgsm1pK-SNRW0-IGLLMA4HoD5boUF_jPcQfwZD4QctLidW2wsyWhwC1nGl4KQAxU4sMccMuag4Y5PGC0YoUXNC4k95MlyA7-9Rpv87XAXV4oD0teW2GKQ0mtJVM5sXgDG-OgyHDOPi-5Rr4p04ie7LYRQeSpR9xCE8po02g5mjTwGYUhr4sD6XXJeLFKZ0ihCt52HnpHDdamW-LE9fo_3Ge3m5RA4EIC_G27XjFHj=w459-h814-no)
Don't ask, I didn't pay money for this and here was my reward...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Deeox2 on May 02, 2017, 03:43:53 pm
You guys still play FE:H? Damn. I stopped awhile ago.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on May 02, 2017, 05:57:43 pm
the update which doubled stamina and let you swap units around was a real booster for me to continue. Having been free to play all the way through, I finally completed a 5* all level 40 team last week, featuring Lyndis, Serra, Nowi and FeRobin. My ladies are da best~ :D now all I have to do is level all the other lazy sods ::)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on May 02, 2017, 07:08:03 pm
Can't see yer team image but I will totally add you as Friend-Buy~ Next time I get the chance to play the game, anyway~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 02, 2017, 08:59:13 pm
Oh, I kinda forgot to put my code before: 2098180257. Feel free to add me.

I managed to pull one Reinhard early on, so I just one-shoted Xander and Zephiel. Those ninjas with Navarl however made it impossible for me to get that lunatic. If I had had my current Ike at that time...

Turning to the Tellius games, and trying to keep it short so that others can join in , I think one of the best points of the Tellius games was the world building, and also showing how each and every single country had it's nice, it's  bad  and it's ugly side. Kind of remeniscient of the FE 6 & FE 7 games.
 
Think about it. At first Crimea seems to be the "Good country" that  get's invaded by the  "evil country"  of Daein , which is later fought back with the help of the  powerful  Begnion Empire ,where you still have Sanaki and Zelgius trying to right the wrongs of the corrupt senators and helping Elincia take back her country...

(RD spoilers ahead)

Spoiler
...Only to discover later  on in RD that Daein offered more opportunities to the lower clases and that it's citizens didn't have it all that bad and that they're being pretty much worked to death by the occupation forces, that most o the Crimean Noble Houses are a bunch of despicable turncoats that only like to fight when they are certain they can win something for themselves, or that pretty much the senators are responsible for all the  wars going around the continent or some of the  laguz (not counting the Feral Ones the Senators and Daein experimented on) being more feral and blood thirsty than how they seemed to be at first.

The characters are also less stereotypical for the most part and experience quite a bit of believable character development. Ike, Elincia go through a lot of character development throughout the two games.  Jill even suffers a full 180 turn on her beliefs in the first game alone.

And the Tellius games  having maybe the best antagonist in the series?

Yeah, world building was definitely one of Tellius strongest points. It managed to build off of PoR really well. I also loved how Jill can actually turn back to an enemy if you make her talk with her father: IS was willing to kick you in the nuts for being too naive. I'm more hesitant on the villains though?

Spoiler
Do you mean Sephiran or the BK? Sephiran was a suitable antagonist to RD, and he had decent motives and a good backstory. But I always felt he was a tad too... distant. He never was really an enemy in the first place, and his boss fight felt emotional, but lacked intensity. Ashera was a cool boss, but that fight was also when she first really appeared. It was a good end-game, but from a narrative stand-point it felt a bit lacking.

The BK did feel strong and was probably the most satisfying boss fight. Still, I kinda preferred him in PoR; RD gave him a face and a motivation, but some parts got very muddled (his motivation and his loyalty to Sephiran sometimes felt a tad contradictory). His previous incarnation, where he was more akin to a force of nature than a normal human felt more aligned to his raison d'etre of being the strongest.

Personally, I prefer possessed Lyon as an antagonist. The Demon King itself was generic garbage, but possessed Lyon was in equal parts tragic, relatable and impactful. They pretty much managed to make it a central part of the story without being over-dramatic. Alvis and Trabant in FE4 are also there: without going into spoilers, they both manage to be human beings with relatable motivations and reaction, with kind of a tragic fate, yet also make you hate them a lot.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on May 03, 2017, 08:42:39 am
the update which doubled stamina and let you swap units around was a real booster for me to continue.
Not being able to swap the placement of your character always was a huge pain in the butt in Heroes (especially when it put you into a pointlessly sucky starting placement in Arena). We can expect the game to be further improved once maps with terrain defence advantage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXB14EzVkgE&feature=youtu.be&t=4m1s) gets implemented.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 03, 2017, 07:17:41 pm
the update which doubled stamina and let you swap units around was a real booster for me to continue.
Not being able to swap the placement of your character always was a huge pain in the butt in Heroes (especially when it put you into a pointlessly sucky starting placement in Arena). We can expect the game to be further improved once maps with terrain defence advantage (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXB14EzVkgE&feature=youtu.be&t=4m1s) gets implemented.

Now the question remains: Gaiden's terrain advantage or the other games terrain advantage.

If it's the first, not even Gats...I mean Ike, can save you.

Updated: May 04, 2017, 05:46:10 pm
This might end up de-railing the conversation a bit, but has anyone here beat Conquest on Lunatic Classic? I'm kinda stuck on the Endgame level and it's a hellish mix of Chapters 25 and 26 due to the absurd "Staff Savant" and "Unevitable end" skills the Staff users and ninjas have.

All the tips I've found consist basically in cheesing the fuck out of the level with rescue staffs and abusing the warp skill from the witches DLC. So far I've only used the money DLC because it made it easier to raise supports (I have multiple characters with the profiteer skill available, so I could have just spammed any map or random dlc until I got overflown in cash), and having managed to beat the game so far playing "fair" .

Not being able to save right before that chapter is also shit...

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on May 05, 2017, 10:01:36 am
playing "fair" .
(http://www.lovethispic.com/uploaded_images/186312-Well-There-s-Your-Problem.jpg)

In a game where the best strat is multiple allies ganging up on one enemy, fair goes out the window :P I'm on a lunatic conquest run, but I haven't finished it yet. I think I sensed chapter 10 approaching and stopped :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 05, 2017, 12:47:47 pm
... Honestly, I still have my conquest on hard playthrough pending. Been trying to finish it before Echoes but I got distracted by some things (NieR and Persona). I know of people that have beaten it without DLC, though, so it should be possible. I do fear though it requires a certain amount of cheesing and abusing every trick in the book (and even then, probably some tries depending on the RNG).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 05, 2017, 08:39:12 pm
I feared as much.
Time to put the Rescue staff I saved to use and hope rng doesn't screw me up.

And Duke Ch 10 in lunatic aint that bad. Took 2 trys, maybe 3 at most.

Furry hell, and all the chapters after 21 though, specially 25 g 26 are fucking nightmare fuel.







Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 12, 2017, 06:38:06 pm
Before leaving Fates behind , let us all enjoy em cutscenes in glorious 60fps and HD.

Azur'as dances look sick on this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIfYKm_vSfQ
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 16, 2017, 10:23:19 pm
So, the embargo has been lifted, so reviews are out. Besides IGN reviewing "Shades of Valentia" and giving it a 7.8 (seriously), not much to say. Good reception, people like the presentation, the game is somewhat hard, the world-building is better, the gameplay does sometimes feel a bit dated, some people dislike not having the absolute power to ship everyone with whom their wish, etc. You can check it out for yourselves.

Now, for those waiting for the game, let me give you some quick advise if you're worried but want to avoid knowing too much:
- The game is easy enough in normal, just not Awakening/Birthright level. Also, even in hard it's made so it can be finished with minimum grinding (with maybe the exception of some post-game content). So if grinding is not your thing, feel free to ignore it (in fact, if you want a challenge you probably should do so). There's also lunatic after beating the game on hard.
- Promote as soon as you can. The way promotions work (adjusting your stats to the class' minimum stats) you really gain nothing by getting extra levels after you are able to promote.
- Villagers can promote to a variety of classes. Most of them are effective enough so that you can choose freely, but if you're angsty about choosing then the game hints you some "canon" classes at the beginning in which they're pretty good.
- Monsters don't move on the wolrd map, and you can use them to grind. However, sometimes as you move through the worldmap, it spans human enemy armies that do move, and will ambush you (including them getting the first turn) if you let them. So now you have to strategise even in the world map!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on May 16, 2017, 10:44:38 pm
you're only making me more excited

...i like that.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on May 16, 2017, 11:07:50 pm
I approve this spoiler-free explanation of things!

/me dons his "Hard Classic or die trying" shirt and WAITS....
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on May 16, 2017, 11:34:21 pm
I approve this spoiler-free explanation of things!

/me dons his "Hard Classic or die trying" shirt and WAITS....

*Dons my "Sexy casual" shirt*
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on May 16, 2017, 11:37:20 pm
This is acceptable.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 18, 2017, 06:03:15 pm
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH (http://imgur.com/a/zXMPd)

*Breathes*

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH


...It's so beautiful... (the amiboos are meh though). I for once understand why collectionists feel the need to buy one to preserve and one to play. I knew it might come early, and I thought to wait until saturday anyway because I don't have much time and a fair bit of work... but seeing it right here I don't think I might be able to resist...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 20, 2017, 12:15:00 pm
Act 3.
Hard classic.
Memelord Gray  and candypink Mae .
On my way to snatch Catria and the green haired goddess that makes me miss the MU and S Ranks in this game. Palla!



Memes, superb voice acting and humour. And beter stoey building and plot than in the past entries.

I'll continue my report later..
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on May 21, 2017, 12:26:54 pm
Update:
Further impresions after the game's difficulty starts to spike up:

1.The map design, scattered troop deployment  and  12+ cavalry units ambush is what  will kill your characters. Specially dangerous  maps for this to happen are the ones like "Forest Crossing"
2.Mila's Turnwheel is a lifesaver and I'd love it come back in future games if we don't get the battle save out of casual mode
3.Cantors are a bunch of asshats
4.So are enemies with Venim weapons
5.Some Minor Bosses bring back flashbacks of some of the nastier FE7 bosses. They're tough, hit like a truck and will double most of your units. So you'll need to use strategy or simply grind the fuck out of the 3 top tier units on both armies and call it a day
6.Some of the weapon skills are awesome, and some are even utterly broken
7.Correction of point 3 :Cantors can go die in a fire.
8.Supports that end up in a paired ending... make  more sense than the ones in Awakening and Fates.
9. Mae likes 
Spoiler
BIG, HUGE AND GORGEOUS
(http://i.imgur.com/QkmXsQd.jpg)

Castles..
10. If Camus is Char Aznable, and Marth is Amuro Ray, is the Flachion a Gundam?
11. Why does Abel has such shit tier taste ? Palla >>Catria>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Est
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on May 21, 2017, 05:12:50 pm
Mine only arrived yesterday afternoon, I'm early-midway through act 2. All I can say so far is that I love it for more reasons than I can count.

Also cantors are a bunch of asshats.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 22, 2017, 04:32:36 am
10. If Camus is Char Aznable, and Marth is Amuro Ray, is the Flachion a Gundam?

Gharnef = Scirocco confirmed. He after all specializes in brainwashing women and other little girls...

11. Why does Abel has such shit tier taste ? Palla >>Catria>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Est

That is the eternal mystery of the franchise that New Mystery should have resolved. Instead we had motherf*cking Chris, secret Jesus of Akaneia and Marth's best whatever. I suppose you could call it a trade if shit tiers...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on May 30, 2017, 08:57:25 pm
So, this happened.  (https://twitter.com/MysticDistance/status/869512619329245185)

The guy later clarified that with 'only' he meant mostly, but at this point it doesn't even matter that much. My hype for the game is dead, then risen as lich only to get purified by Seraphim. I will stop here, because I know if I continue writing I will end ranting on everything.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 01, 2017, 01:52:03 am
I'm not so elitist as to let this ruin a game for me. It's a warriors game, it's got characters I like. I'll be grateful for that~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 01, 2017, 04:31:41 am
As long as it has the younger version of Tiki as a playable character.

Also Marth and Tharja wouldn't go unplayed either.

My demands regarding the games they're focusing on are simple and potentially even likely.

Would have liked more focus to be on my favorite games, of course, but I still feel fondly towards Shadow Dragon, Awakening, and Fates, so I won't say I hate the decision.

Still, Lyn DLC/surprise character would also be nice. While there's no hope for Florina or Erk/Nino now, I don't suppose there ever was before, so~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Deeox2 on June 01, 2017, 04:41:43 am
I blame the devs for having too many sword characters.

That is all.

(Plus come on, there'll be piles of DLC later on. You know it'll happen.)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 01, 2017, 05:57:38 am
I don't hate Awakening or Fates, I actually liked them for what they were (I will grumble about some parts of them if left on my own, but I think I managed to control myself well enough), but I just feel it then completely misses the point of the game. I don't care much for playing a Warriors game with characters I already know and remember very well (except maybe for the non-Marths of Shadow Dragon). Sure, the first 5 hours will be fun, but after those 5 hours the fun in those kind of games is simply in unlocking and testing the new characters, and being surprised 5 or 6 times. It feels like a completely missed chance to just put some obscure guys that also fit incredibly well and have cool mechanics with the game and take everybody by surprise. Heck, FE Heroes did it very well, what with taking Reinhardt and Julia and turning them into very recognizable characters and fun to use. If you had come from the future and told me Reinhardt would end being fairly popular and Julia managed to fight a waifu war with Tharja without losing in 3 seconds, I would have hit you.

I guess the whole news just tell me they aren't approaching this with the mechanics or the series itself in mind, but rather with popularity and their own convenience. Which is fine and all, but then my hype is dead.

And the sword stuff is completely bonkers when 3 of the 4 OGs they introduced are using swords... which is around the smae percentage of FE lords. Like, at least say something like the power of Smash or whatever.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 01, 2017, 06:07:28 am
You've got a point about swords and OCs, but I'll mention a theory I read elsewhere, that maybe you'll be able to choose or change the weapon/class of the OCs. I'd say, while unlikely, there's also a chance that you may only 'get' either male or female, with the other becoming an NPC or enemy, and the other OCs mentioned might also fall in one of those categories- but that's entirely speculation. Plus, I believe one's a parent and the other's an old mentor-type, and both of those have a habit of ending up evil or dead in this series, so anything's possible.

Just hope the story they're setting up is going to be at least all right, and that they take advantage of enhancements to bonds and character interactions made possible by large amounts of the cast already knowing each other and being close. Having, say, five Shadow Dragon characters, at least make them seem like a close-knit group that trusts each other and works together well. Or something like that. If they did it well enough, and made something good out of it, I could even seeing it as an advantage to choosing to focus on certain games, though it probably won't happen, and I won't pretend that the reason really comes down to anything other than popularity.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 01, 2017, 06:28:35 pm
Thanks Elvis, for being so fair even when I'm being unfair.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 02, 2017, 06:37:59 am
Look at the brigt side of it bringing Shadow Dragon, Awakening and Fates characters:
We may get...
The goddess Palla
Minerva, most badass WK ever
Cherche riding Minerva (the wyvern, not the lass)
Catria
Not-Catria
Est dies cannonically in the plot
The Messiah Kane, I mean... Cain
Meidos
Laura Bailey as the leader of the Saints Sheperds with (nerdgasm) Trickster Anna voiced by Tara Strong
Inigo Montoya
Xander the Great
Leo killing Risen in some god forsaken village
Fashionista "Smugface" Oboro

And via DLC we may get...

Gatsu Ike
Lyn
Hector
Memelord Gray and Tobindank
NotLink/Alm
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 14, 2017, 03:40:39 pm
The Fire Emblem warriors sneak peek was kinda...dissapointing.

-Boring MCs that really made me feel like Prof. Oak: Oi! Are you a lad or a lass, mate?
-Only female character was...FCorrin. Well, better than MCorrin...but that's it.
-No gameplay
-More Ryoma, more Xander with meh voice, more Crumb
-No Palla
-No Minerva
-No Cherche
-Not even Lucina or Tiki
-No Tharja
-Again, no Palla + Cherche + Tharja mud battle, with surprise contender Shareena

The good:
-No Est.
-No MCorrin
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 14, 2017, 05:47:46 pm
For those unaware, they showed off a decent chunk of actual gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KQp71d5OU) during the Treehouse event following the E3 stuff. Features a couple different modes, all of the currently revealed characters in action, the various ways they altered things from a typical Warriors game to seem more like Fire Emblem, and likely a lot of small details I missed.

They also announced two new Amiibo: one of Chrom, and one for Tiki (https://i2.wp.com/www.monamiibo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/chromtikiamiibo.jpg?resize=1200%2C600)- the Shadow Dragon version. This likely means she'll also be in the game!

I'd also like to point out that, while disappointing that they revealed the exact characters they did, it's also worth noting that they were all literally the same ones as the swords that showed up in the original teaser, so, while it'd be cool to see others, I think this was a natural progression on who would get shown next- they were basically able to reveal 'new' characters and gameplay, all without actually giving away anything new.

I'm sure whatever shows up next will be more unique, but I must say, even what I saw so far is pretty cool looking. And a lot of the attacks and stuff are very colorful and dramatic. Just waiting for Tiki now~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 14, 2017, 06:36:30 pm
For those unaware, they showed off a decent chunk of actual gameplay (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8KQp71d5OU) during the Treehouse event following the E3 stuff. Features a couple different modes, all of the currently revealed characters in action, the various ways they altered things from a typical Warriors game to seem more like Fire Emblem, and likely a lot of small details I missed.

They also announced two new Amiibo: one of Chrom, and one for Tiki (https://i2.wp.com/www.monamiibo.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/06/chromtikiamiibo.jpg?resize=1200%2C600)- the Shadow Dragon version. This likely means she'll also be in the game!

I'd also like to point out that, while disappointing that they revealed the exact characters they did, it's also worth noting that they were all literally the same ones as the swords that showed up in the original teaser, so, while it'd be cool to see others, I think this was a natural progression on who would get shown next- they were basically able to reveal 'new' characters and gameplay, all without actually giving away anything new.

I'm sure whatever shows up next will be more unique, but I must say, even what I saw so far is pretty cool looking. And a lot of the attacks and stuff are very colorful and dramatic. Just waiting for Tiki now~

Like you said, it does make sense that they present those characters as their swords  appeared in the teaser. Still...

Thanks for the links, I'll check em out.

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on June 14, 2017, 06:36:57 pm
/me raises his hand to get attention.

I just wanted to say that...Rev would like  a Catria and Palla cuz..ZR is a swell thing. That is all~ Stay daijoubu folks-
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 14, 2017, 09:43:59 pm
Honestly, the FE community right now is like the Dead Sea (as in salty). While Elvis is completely right, at the same time you can't simply say 'too many swords' and then release a trailer with all the characters using only swords. Like, at least put a pegasus or wyvern knight or something, but otherwise I feel like they're treating me like an idiot. Even if the intentions were innocent, from a PR standpoint is the worst possible choice.

I also personally feel a little letdown by the gameplay. It seems like a Dynasty/Samurai Warriors Empire reskin, and I get that this is what a warriors spin-off is supposed to be, but I at least hoped for something less... blatant, let's say.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 17, 2017, 05:13:02 pm
I'd be lying if I said I was surprised. By both the trailers and the reactions of people. The only thing I'm sad about is no sign of Lyndis. But that's mostly due to the imbalance of male to female characters at the moment.

As an aside, the FE community in general has to be one of the only ones that has such a dedicated group of perma-grumps about older characters never being used, especially right after we just received Shadows of Valentia. I've yet to see any other similar fanbase throw its toys out the pram so much due to a lack of their favourite characters' inclusion. It would make sense to add in the popular ones, and to be honest different weapons are hardly going to make a difference to play style (unless you want like super slow knight animations and the like, which doesn't seem to fit a fast-paced game like warriors to me). Fliers wouldn't make much sense unless you were being swarmed by other flying units, which would make things nigh unplayable through lack of being able to see yourself.

I can't really say that they've done anything wrong thus far in Warriors, other than illogical reasoning. It makes sense to be showing the recent main characters, are they are the recognisable faces and will have the best chance of bringing in the most players, both new and old. Seems like a sensible business decision to me, and I'm not going to swing buying or not buying based on what my character model looks like. Sure it might irritate me that best legs girl Lyndis might not feature, but it isn't a deal breaker by any means.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2fP6VVVEAE6VBF.jpg)
(http://68.media.tumblr.com/de354db5e2debc55256d749ecf4b9c6b/tumblr_inline_ojpdouczd61to1ppc_500.png)
Instead how about we all just sit around the happy campfire and appreciate Chrom getting his chance that he wanted :)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on June 17, 2017, 08:39:52 pm
Broken bases aside, just thought I should mention that I think they confirmed playable Pegasus Knight before, looking forward to seeing how that's gonna work. Though I wouldn't mind an Armored Knight, being slow but super strong, if they could make it work. Not that I've ever truly loved many of them, sadly. Guess that just means I wouldn't be too upset not to get one.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 18, 2017, 02:35:59 pm
Both pegasus knight and wyvern knights appeared in the trailer, so they're most likely going to be in the game.

I'm the first to recognize that the FE fanbase is more fractured than a glass just ran over by train and can be accurately summed by this image (http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/086/493/406.jpg). I also admit that I'm normally a grumpy fan, and with Fire Emblem I'm a super-grumpy fan, so you should never take too seriously anything I say.

That said however, no, FE Warrios had an objectively mediocre trailer and showing, either for fans or for other people in general looking at E3. There's still room for optimism, and the game will likely end being good, but what they showed was definitely subpar.

The currently revealed cast is a bit dubious, but frankly not that important. It is neither a popularity vote (3 are top 5 in the FE Heroes polls, but none are top 3, and the other 2 don't reach top 30) nor a 'last games' thing (we know Echoes has been in development for more than year and a half, and we know IS supervised the game and specially advised Koei Tecmo on the matter of characters, not to mention Heroes is currently even more global than Awakening now, so if you're going for recognizable faces that's where you should go). Even when attracting a more casual crowd looking at Nintendo's E3 direct, they didn't exploit Ike and Roy's enormous popularity within the Smash fandom (and frankly, Smash's mechanics are more similar to a normal Warriors game than FE, so IMO it's a lost opportunity).

Still, as I said, the chosen cast is not really that important, but rather the trailer is probably one of the worse ones in the entire E3. In the next 3 months, the game has to convince a lot of FE fans to switch from the 3DS they just played Echoes with to a Switch (or upgrade to a New3DS). What is the trailer?
0:10-0:45 Super-generic prototype FE story featuring 2 generic OCs nobody cares about told in the most boring way possible (also, two hidden cameo by Xander and Ryoma). I mean, we know what the story is going to be, and we accept it, but did you need to use half the trailer to remind us how bad it's going to be?  Heroes didn't spend its trailer talking about Alphonse and Sharena. TMS' trailer alienated a lot of people, but it did show its cast and what it was about in a striking way.
0:45-1:30 FE characters we already knew were going to appear show up, and say one or two generic lines. No gameplay. At least they look good.

In total, we saw 9 characters and no gameplay nor a villain. Of them, 4 are original and 2 barely appear for a second (one is most likely not playable). Xenoblade 2 was before the FE trailer, an JRPG that releases in the holidays (3 month later than FE Warriors) and with a strong focus on personal combat and exploration. It showed 11 characters, 7 of them with important screentime. The Warriors spin-off, known for their rosters, has further almost half the characters appearing being original. No matter how you look at it, whether from a fan, PR, marketing or even technical standpoint, the trailer was terribly sub-par. No revealing new characters is simply a dumb move, especially with the sword statement of before.

The Nintendo Treehouse was a bit better, but showed nothing new. Weapon changing we know it's going to be in since the first trailer? Absent. Any new characters? Absent. Any non-sword weapon? Absent (though Corrin does seem to have an interesting playstyle, I'll give them that). Even the weapon triangle only appeared very little against mooks, due to everyone else using swords. Overall it showed some neat stuff, but nothing new or exciting. Again, I repeat that the game is going to hit the shelves in 3 months; there's no possible excuses about unfinished content or reserving their guns for the TGS. This is the trailer that most people are going to see for this game.

It's not even a matter of perspective. Hyrule Warriors E3 trailer was incredibly superior this one, focusing on gameplay and showcasing the special mechanics of Zelda in  a Warriors framework and still ended showing the same amount of playable characters (5) of the franchise with no OCs. Both the Arslan and Berserk Warriors TGS trailers (which are the most similar you can get; Arslan wasn't at E3 while Berserk was just the announcement) are also leagues above, all revealing a lot more characters and a lot more gameplay with a similar length.

So, can people still be optimistic and is the FE fandom going overboard? Yes, of course to both. However, was it an incredibly subpar trailer and showcase and people have the right to be dissapointed? Likewise to both
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 18, 2017, 03:29:02 pm
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The currently revealed cast is a bit dubious, but frankly not that important. It is neither a popularity vote (3 are top 5 in the FE Heroes polls, but none are top 3, and the other 2 don't reach top 30) nor a 'last games' thing (we know Echoes has been in development for more than year and a half, and we know IS supervised the game and specially advised Koei Tecmo on the matter of characters, not to mention Heroes is currently even more global than Awakening now, so if you're going for recognizable faces that's where you should go).
Well, it is a last games thing. Echoes is a side series and Heroes is a phone app. Main series recent titles are fates and awakening, which is what we have, plus Marth who is in every Fire Emblem related title since Shadow Dragon, including codename steam. So it is popularity in that regard as he is their mascot, and it is a recent games thing.

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Even when attracting a more casual crowd looking at Nintendo's E3 direct, they didn't exploit Ike and Roy's enormous popularity within the Smash fandom (and frankly, Smash's mechanics are more similar to a normal Warriors game than FE, so IMO it's a lost opportunity).

See previous Marth comment. And Corrin is smash fandom now also, which is how Roy gained popularity in the first place and they've done nothing with him since other than leave him in smash. Though I believe it was mentioned that the next echoes game would be Roy's, if the director gets his way. It would also add more swords, which is apparently a bad thing to have (sucks to be me. Red orbs are my best when it comes to 5* summons > >). They haven't really done anything with Ike either, really, so there might be a small argument for them not wanting to only have the same lot of well-known characters in all their real-time games.


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Still, as I said, the chosen cast is not really that important, but rather the trailer is probably one of the worse ones in the entire E3. In the next 3 months, the game has to convince a lot of FE fans to switch from the 3DS they just played Echoes with to a Switch (or upgrade to a New3DS). What is the trailer?
0:10-0:45 Super-generic prototype FE story featuring 2 generic OCs nobody cares about told in the most boring way possible (also, two hidden cameo by Xander and Ryoma). I mean, we know what the story is going to be, and we accept it, but did you need to use half the trailer to remind us how bad it's going to be?  Heroes didn't spend its trailer talking about Alphonse and Sharena. TMS' trailer alienated a lot of people, but it did show its cast and what it was about in a striking way.
0:45-1:30 FE characters we already knew were going to appear show up, and say one or two generic lines. No gameplay. At least they look good.
Nice opinionated version of how that went down (looking at you bolded section). Also calling it out for story at all is a very hypocritical move for a game series where the main plot is "hero gets strong sword and kills dragon with their friend army". Like, half the time they have the same hair colour as well. It's a bit late in the day for such complaints to be honest.
Heroes was a super-simplified app version of a main game, so using its trailer is poor example really. It has a patchwork story at best (not following the standard routine), and on top of that two of the first things it shows are Alphonse and Sharena. And after that, all it did was show the characters who you could get in the game, all of whom were both recent and main characters.
Ultimately, this game is not the same as other fire emblem games, and they are handling the PR differently. Yes it could have been done better, but it strikes me to be more similar to smash, where they announced new heroes one at a time during build up. All we've covered so far is the equivalent of "all the main fighters from before are going to be in it" (were there a previous game to apply it to), so the coming months will determine this better.
I agree with the comment about gameplay, because I don't like trailers that don't show gameplay at all as it makes me suspicious of the game. But they did then go on to show treehouse which had a solid half an hour of how the game works. If the game is one you are interested in you can watch gameplay, or if you aren't sure you can watch gameplay. It's a bit of a hassle to switch videos but if you ignore it because "it wasn't in the trailer" then you're only stopping yourself.

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In total, we saw 9 characters and no gameplay nor a villain. Of them, 4 are original and 2 barely appear for a second (one is most likely not playable). Xenoblade 2 was before the FE trailer, an JRPG that releases in the holidays (3 month later than FE Warriors) and with a strong focus on personal combat and exploration. It showed 11 characters, 7 of them with important screentime. The Warriors spin-off, known for their rosters, has further almost half the characters appearing being original. No matter how you look at it, whether from a fan, PR, marketing or even technical standpoint, the trailer was terribly sub-par. No revealing new characters is simply a dumb move, especially with the sword statement of before.
Already talked about the gameplay part, and the villain was shown if you count the dragon (if Grima and Anankos can be main villains, he can too~!). For the record, I found the Xenoblade trailer far worse on account of its poor graphical output, making a girl into a sword and a main character who looks like he's ten. But that's just me, and a discussion perhaps for a different thread.
Admittedly I have not played much of the Warriors games so I can't talk about it from a fan perspective, but I'd say they did talk about new characters coming (a lot of your points are really just the same ones, huh). A Tiki amiibo was revealed with "yet-to-be revealed functions", so it's not outside the realm of possibility for her to be playable, especially since Chrom is also in the game and got his amiibo at the same time.

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The Nintendo Treehouse was a bit better, but showed nothing new. Weapon changing we know it's going to be in since the first trailer? Absent. Any new characters? Absent. Any non-sword weapon? Absent (though Corrin does seem to have an interesting playstyle, I'll give them that).
Nothing new, other than the gameplay you were complaining about being absent earlier. Nothing not already covered in regards to characters, so I'm ignoring any comments about that here on out. Other than that technically Lianna, who wasn't available to play on the show floor but was in treehouse. But that's probably splitting hairs.

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Even the weapon triangle only appeared very little against mooks, due to everyone else using swords. Overall it showed some neat stuff, but nothing new or exciting. Again, I repeat that the game is going to hit the shelves in 3 months; there's no possible excuses about unfinished content or reserving their guns for the TGS. This is the trailer that most people are going to see for this game.

And if it interests them, there's gameplay. And if it interests them, they'll keep checking for updates (or just come across them naturally). The only people it alienates really are people who weren't fans of either series to begin with, which is a considerable problem, but I don't think the alienation is that severe. If people are curious, they'll look for more stuff on a subject and games are safely included in that.

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It's not even a matter of perspective. Hyrule Warriors E3 trailer was incredibly superior this one, focusing on gameplay and showcasing the special mechanics of Zelda in  a Warriors framework and still ended showing the same amount of playable characters (5) of the franchise with no OCs. Both the Arslan and Berserk Warriors TGS trailers (which are the most similar you can get; Arslan wasn't at E3 while Berserk was just the announcement) are also leagues above, all revealing a lot more characters and a lot more gameplay with a similar length.
The E3 trailer for Hyrule was a better trailer, agreed. It covered all bases that a trailer should require, so the only thing I can assume from the Fire Emblem one is that they're focusing more on story than on characters. I did also feel that the Warriors trailer wasn't up to scratch, it didn't really tell me much about the game but the thing that annoyed me most was the half-assed voice acting. I can't stand most english voice actors though so nothing new there.

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So, can people still be optimistic and is the FE fandom going overboard? Yes, of course to both. However, was it an incredibly subpar trailer and showcase and people have the right to be dissapointed? Likewise to both
Probably, but I feel that you're pushing the negativity too far. From going through your post, all I can discern is "I have to switch videos to see the gameplay, I wish more characters were already talked about rather than waiting and this game is too much like the others." So having not played much of the old ones I can't comment, but I agree that in this amount of time between Legends and now, there should be some progress in terms of technical gameplay. Game companies can't just rehash the same stuff over and over again, so for you I'd say the coming months is the make or break time. For lucky people like me who are Fire Emblem fans but haven't played enough Warriors for it to be an issue, I'm already sold, but of course I want variety too. And I'm also hoping they go back on their word about swords and bring Lyndis in ;_;
Random new theory: Wolt or Innes (because other main-character-ish archers aren't coming to mind right now). Why stop at flying or axes? Let's go for bows! Staves! Make Saint Genny and let her use expel to win in a single move! The sky's the limit with a roster this big!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 21, 2017, 10:02:51 pm
Don't really want to drag this out nor offend anyone, but I felt I had to make a couple of corrections. First: yes, almost all my points were 'lack of something new'. The thing is any warriors game is decided by its roster and mechanics. If they don't show either, I can't make up my mind on the project and thus I lose interest. I'm not talking about me specifically too, but rather in a more general way.

Well, it is a last games thing. Echoes is a side series and Heroes is a phone app. Main series recent titles are fates and awakening, which is what we have, plus Marth who is in every Fire Emblem related title since Shadow Dragon, including codename steam. So it is popularity in that regard as he is their mascot, and it is a recent games thing.
Echoes is definitely mainline. It's internal name (in the code) is FE16 (there's a mysterious missing number associated to a failed project), and the Echoes thing was actually misinterpreted. In Japan it was simple a new subtitle (just like FE 12, Fire Emblem New Mistery: Heroes of Light and Shadow), and it was revealed in a interview that it wasn't until the name got very praised that IS considered naming new remakes Echoes too. Also, Echoes was finished on Jan 17 (the release date was pushed back intentionally to coincide with the anniversary of the series), so it most likely never ran parallel to FE Switch too.

Nice opinionated version of how that went down (looking at you bolded section). Also calling it out for story at all is a very hypocritical move for a game series where the main plot is "hero gets strong sword and kills dragon with their friend army". Like, half the time they have the same hair colour as well. It's a bit late in the day for such complaints to be honest.
Heroes was a super-simplified app version of a main game, so using its trailer is poor example really. It has a patchwork story at best (not following the standard routine), and on top of that two of the first things it shows are Alphonse and Sharena. And after that, all it did was show the characters who you could get in the game, all of whom were both recent and main characters.

You missed my point. We know it's going to a be prototypical FE story without all its nuances, and we know it's going to be just an excuse to join the characters of every series so it's not that important (still, know that more than half of the games of the series don't follow this pattern, even if you count remakes). Is in that it's similar to Heroes: in both the story is patchwork for the roster to be there. The problem is that you're wasting half your trailer in something that nobody cares about and it's actually a bit cringe-worthy (the voice acting doesn't help, as you mentioned). I'm not expecting a story out of Warriors, but I'm at least expecting them to not waste half my time with it.

But they did then go on to show treehouse which had a solid half an hour of how the game works. If the game is one you are interested in you can watch gameplay, or if you aren't sure you can watch gameplay. It's a bit of a hassle to switch videos but if you ignore it because "it wasn't in the trailer" then you're only stopping yourself.

In an ideal world you would be right. However, the reason we even have trailers is because people can't be arsed to see 30 minutes of dry gameplay. FE warriors trailer has 375k views on Youtube; this is the trailer on its own, without anything else from Nintendo. The demonstration has 135k views, which clearly shows not everyone who saw the trailer saw the gameplay. If the trailer is bad enough to make you lose the hype of the game and don't bother watching the gameplay then sure, you're stopping yourself, but the trailer continues being bad and the people turned off.

Already talked about the gameplay part, and the villain was shown if you count the dragon (if Grima and Anankos can be main villains, he can too~!).
I'm not going to count a silhouette as a character reveal now, don't be silly.

For the record, I found the Xenoblade trailer far worse on account of its poor graphical output, making a girl into a sword and a main character who looks like he's ten. But that's just me, and a discussion perhaps for a different thread.
The thing is that you not liking a trailer doesn't mean its bad. I even brought TMS as an example: a lot of people hated the trailer, but the trailer did its job showing what the game was about. It would have been worse if it had been vague and people found about the game upon release. The same with Xenoblade: it was honest and you dislike it, but because it told you the truth you now know what to expect and can decide if to buy or not appropriately. FE Warriors told me nothing: it's a bland copy of the latest warriors or it has some hidden mechanics they didn't show? It's roster will be big or small, classic or modern, a mix or a popularity poll?

They have 3 months too, so unless they reveal a new character each week they won't arrive in time, so I don't have much faith on the idea of 'slowly releasing characters'.

A Tiki amiibo was revealed with "yet-to-be revealed functions", so it's not outside the realm of possibility for her to be playable, especially since Chrom is also in the game and got his amiibo at the same time.

Tiki will most definitely be in the game, and that reveal was the highlight of the event. I probably should have said that.


And if it interests them, there's gameplay. And if it interests them, they'll keep checking for updates (or just come across them naturally). The only people it alienates really are people who weren't fans of either series to begin with, which is a considerable problem, but I don't think the alienation is that severe. If people are curious, they'll look for more stuff on a subject and games are safely included in that.

Again, this in an ideal world. People don't have the time to check for updates constantly, especially of games they are not convinced about. It may sound bad and unsupportive, but it's the customer that will spend ~60$ on a game and maybe 200-300$ on a new console. It's very easy for them to decide they're uninterested, and I know a lot of fellow FE fans that have definitely stopped checking Warriors updates.

Overall, I understand your point, but I feel people have the right to be not only disappointed but even angry. KOEI Tecmo have shown they can do better on almost all their other spin-offs, yet they're seemingly half-assing it with FE, a franchise that won the poll as the most awaited Warriors cross-over and have the full backing of Nintendo on a new and successful console. I understand (and actually agree) why a lot of people outright dislike this attitude, but it does have its places. And hey, we got Echoes, so that shows voicing your displeasure may sometimes works (and I will continue to do so).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 21, 2017, 10:53:41 pm
I'm not going to quote everything again because a) you're right it's gone on far too long and b) I'm lazy. Sue me. :P I get that people are mad and do have a reason. This trailer wasn't the best (you can sue me for being an optimist too, it's cheaper ::) ). Maybe this was just the straw breaking the camel's back for me, because by and large I think gamers nowadays complain about an awful lot with no real knowledge of how much hard work making a game is. They all just want want want with no real appreciation. So when I see a community so perpetually grumpy like this one, it really grinds my gears. So let me have a small outburst just here~:

Off-topic rant from a guy who likes all fire emblems towards people who only like the old ones
If you liked the old games more, go back and play them you damned grumps! We've moved on, and you can't even be satisfied with the remakes! I'm looking at you, game reviewers! Echoes was so brilliantly mathematical and added so many cool features that really seemed like the old fire emblems to me, and now you complain that they've taken out supports and marriage! Hypocrite doesn't even BEGIN to cover what an asshole move this is, given the stance that you all took about Awakening. Be ashamed, and in my book you don't DESERVE another game like the old ones with that attitude! A productive and awesome fanbase doesn't need you being so needy all the time. Sure they get things wrong, but you just can't EVER seem to be satisfied. You want bits of this and bits of that, but with a bit less of this and a bit more of that. You know what we call that mentality? A Fairy Tale Game. It won't ever happen, so stop bitching that you don't have your nostalgia factor back yet. Companies move on, and you should learn to as well.

*Ahem* Sorry about that. It's been building up for a while like I said, and I needed to write it somewhere. It isn't aimed at anyone personally because I know you've all got your likes and dislikes same as I do. But I want it written down somewhere that I said it :)

In the meantime, I'll be looking forward to when they properly release tiki's gameplay. I hope they make her more like the original fire-breathing dragons, rather than her Ice Manakete form. They probably will cus it's loli tiki amiibo, but you never know :P
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 22, 2017, 10:05:42 pm
Outburst accepted~ Still, I admit I'm a bit confused? I don't know what game reviewers are you talking about. In the whole fanbase the reaction has been mostly overwhelmingly positive with some nitpicks. And most review sites are simply garbage at Fire Emblem who just picked it up at Awakening (IGN had their famous tutorial on Awakening becoming a meme for a reason) and frankly have no clue on game narrative and only recently gained some on map design after playing Conquest.

On the brighter news, the NPD group revealed May 2017 best seeling titles, and Echoes is the number 1 in the 3DS. Now, I know this is against almost no competition, but looking further I've found an NPD analyst remarking that 'The launch of Nintendo’s Fire Emblem Echoes: Shadow of Valentia pushed May portable software spending up 10 percent versus year ago' (https://venturebeat.com/2017/06/19/may-2017-npd-injustice-2-comes-out-on-top-as-nintendo-games-keep-selling/). While May 2016 had no special releases, in that moment the 3DS was still alive and the Vita still had some breath, so I think it's a good sign. Maybe the West did come to save FE John
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 23, 2017, 01:36:01 pm
Mayhap twas just the one I read. Games Master pushed their rating of it down to 79% because of lack of support/marriage and apparently bland maps, something I've found very hard to justify while playing it. If anything, it seems much more realistic and challenging.
Spoiler for Act 3 Echoes maybe?
Maps like the sluice gate were a good challenge to balance attack while making sure I didn't kill Delthea. Spoiler alert: I didn't :P
What really grated against me from them was that 79% is knowingly putting it under their 80% bracket, which has a different meaning and is used for games that are worth playing straight away or something. So the fact that it is one below means that these changes were enough for them to push it out of that bracket and under it, which I think is completely unfair. They also spoke negatively of how mathematical everything was, when all I could think was "this is all that fire emblem fans have wanted for years". Maybe they're playing the game from a general gamer's perspective rather than a fire emblem fan's one, but that doesn't work when playing fire emblem games. And surely a reviewer should be taking the collective fan opinion into account anyway?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on June 24, 2017, 07:34:34 am
While May 2016 had no special releases, in that moment the 3DS was still alive and the Vita still had some breath, so I think it's a good sign. Maybe the West did come to save FE John

And I didn't even have to force or threaten  people into buying the game. See? Rejoice, fellow FEmblemers!

Mayhap twas just the one I read. Games Master pushed their rating of it down to 79% because of lack of support/marriage and apparently bland maps, something I've found very hard to justify while playing it. If anything, it seems much more realistic and challenging.
Spoiler for Act 3 Echoes maybe?
Maps like the sluice gate were a good challenge to balance attack while making sure I didn't kill Delthea. Spoiler alert: I didn't :P
What really grated against me from them was that 79% is knowingly putting it under their 80% bracket, which has a different meaning and is used for games that are worth playing straight away or something. So the fact that it is one below means that these changes were enough for them to push it out of that bracket and under it, which I think is completely unfair. They also spoke negatively of how mathematical everything was, when all I could think was "this is all that fire emblem fans have wanted for years". Maybe they're playing the game from a general gamer's perspective rather than a fire emblem fan's one, but that doesn't work when playing fire emblem games. And surely a reviewer should be taking the collective fan opinion into account anyway?

Well, you know a lot of people had started liking the whole pairing and huge support logs a lot, so I see why they may feel a bit put off by Echoes Palla Y R U not mai waifu, but I kinda have to agree on the Map Design. With some honourable exceptions, most of the maps are open fields with a little bit of advantageous terrain in between. It pales in comparison to other FE's in that regards, Tellius & Conquest specially.

But boy, OH BOY, were the characters and the VA superb.  We also got the best villains in FE for quite a while (which then again...is not saying much, but still, a great improvement) ,Fernand and Berkut, even though they could have been executed a bit better.

And while I understand that the new UI for the damage calculations might have seem kind of alienating for some, I didn't need much time to adapt. After playing Conquest and other of the harder games on hard and lunatic I developed the habit of checking the enemie ATK, SPD and DEF stats & skills individually to know exactly how many attacks I could take or equire to bring em down.




Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 24, 2017, 12:08:49 pm
I've yet to finish Echoes (I'm getting there now that life isn't getting in the way any more!) but I agree that Fernand and Berkut's voice acting is most impressive. It's not often that an English voice actor impresses me like that, compounded by the fact that they managed to make me not like Fernand more or less from the start which is nice. Normally it takes me a while to start to dislike badguys he was an asshole clearly defined as one from the word go :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on June 25, 2017, 08:51:12 pm
Also, it's a good to remember this unforgettable quote about Radiant Dawn in Gamespot's revew:

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"The biggest problem with Radiant Dawn is that it proves just how firmly rooted Fire Emblem is in its ways; it makes absolutely no effort at all to adapt and change from its predecessors. Despite being a Wii game, it doesn't make any attempt to use any of the system's strengths, such as Mii support, online support, or motion controls and pointing, even though the advantages of such integration should be plainly obvious."

The Western reviewers have always been incorrigibly bad about FE. I've been following the series since 10 years ago, and I think the only good review I found was in a local Spanish media and about Shadow Dragon of all things, the game the West forgot about. With Echoes I actually kinda felt an improvement, because they at least could kinda guess the map design wasn't perfect. Still, I do admit I quite like some of the plain maps in Echoes: they aren't that engaging, but they are compelling, if you can somehow understand it. It reminds me of FE4 a bit. Oh, and while terrain is OP, I prefer that than to be able to completely forget about it like in Awakening/Fates.

PS: Also, while if you hate DLC I completely understand skipping it, the Rise of the Deliverance DLC is worth every penny and makes wonders for Fernand, all while giving Clive and Lukas more depth. The best DLC with difference, and the only one I feel is a 'must' if you like the game.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 25, 2017, 09:10:54 pm
I'm planning on getting the season pass, so all DLC anyway :P but only when I've finished the main story~ looking forward to good ones, I find that generally DLC does add to the game a lot. Future-Past is probably my favourite part of awakening, and the Fates children story was interesting if not as compelling.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on June 27, 2017, 04:43:56 pm
Sorry to break it to all you Donnel fans out there, but it looks like you might have lucked out :P
http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/06/26/the-makers-of-fire-emblem-warriors-wont-tell-us-if-donnel-is-in-it?utm_content=buffer0349e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer-nintendomagfb (http://www.kotaku.co.uk/2017/06/26/the-makers-of-fire-emblem-warriors-wont-tell-us-if-donnel-is-in-it?utm_content=buffer0349e&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=buffer-nintendomagfb)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on July 06, 2017, 07:25:29 pm
God dammit nintendo.
You put english voices even in mobage...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on July 06, 2017, 07:57:27 pm
News! They have announced new characters for Fire Emblem Warriors!

To be exact, we have confirmation of

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Male Robin, seemingly as a magic user, Lissa, with axes in her War Cleric role, and Frederick, mounted and also wielding an axe! Also Lucina with her sword, forgot that at first!

Video detailing the reveal here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLKRM4dDr2Y)!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on July 06, 2017, 09:20:07 pm
Ahh yes, I knew there was something I forgot to do ::)

Needless to say, the inclusion of robin basically means I have my main now (come at me Awakening haters! :P ). I'll admit slight confusion as making lissa a war cleric. Sure it's one of her natural progressions, but she's so much more useful as a sage. We coulda had Cherche for women axe users from awakening. Hope we will later on~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on July 07, 2017, 06:06:04 am
I personally always found the 'Nun with axes' meme stupid and Lissa overrated, but seeing her actually wielding an axe somewhat warmed even my grumpy elitist heart. At least they're finally introducing more variety, though it seems they're only going for safe choices (we probably will only have the Royals and Azura from Fates too).
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Douman on July 08, 2017, 07:15:16 am
Got my first waifu in Fire Emblem Heroes!  ::)

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(http://i.imgur.com/vHx8uKo.png)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on July 30, 2017, 09:04:13 am
Look who showed up, just in time for the end of her event:

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(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DF-LGWRU0AAjY2k.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on August 01, 2017, 03:10:45 pm
Latest update for Warriors roster; we now also have Female Robin and Cordelia joining us~

http://www.siliconera.com/2017/08/01/fire-emblem-warriors-adds-cordelia-female-robin-permadeath-feature/ (http://www.siliconera.com/2017/08/01/fire-emblem-warriors-adds-cordelia-female-robin-permadeath-feature/)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Arraxis on August 01, 2017, 03:41:19 pm
Oh, Warriors as in Dynasty Warriors? I might have to get a Switch...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on August 01, 2017, 04:58:30 pm
If you're considering it, I'd have a read of the previous chatter regarding it to get a feel for what it's like. Opinion is split and I don't think it alone warrants a whole console (unless you can get cheap second hand?), but I'd recommend it as a game if you can swing it.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on September 14, 2017, 02:48:30 am
A new character got revealed for Warriors today. The newest addition to the cast is...

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Lyn! From Fire Emblem/7/Rekka no Ken, for the GBA. Another sword user, but also a character from something other than Fates and Awakening, and my favorite Lord, so I'll take it. Still waiting for any actual Shadow Dragon characters, though... especially Tiki.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on September 26, 2017, 09:57:43 pm
It seems we've pretty much got every character revealed for Warriors at this point (http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_characters_in_Fire_Emblem_Warriors), considering they've started talking about the DLC that'll add more. Kind of sad that the number of Shadow Dragon characters is so low. Plus, adding the Awakening and Shadow Dragon sets together is only equal to the Fates character list. Still, we got a couple lolis out of it, and alongside the last reveal, I guess that's good enough for Elvis.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on September 26, 2017, 10:05:34 pm
Thats a lot of Fates chars ~ I call foul. Pandering to new players at expense of old fanbase.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 26, 2017, 10:30:05 pm
The fact that they've already announced DLC irritates me as well. If the content is already complete, it should be in the main game. And if it isn't, they should have waited until it was out in all regions before announcing it. Saying there's DLC before we even have access to the base game makes them look incredibly money-grabby.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on September 27, 2017, 11:00:25 pm
Warriors is out now in Japan. It seems there are a lot of "secret characters", which appear as NPC during the stages and story but which still aren't confirmed playable. As it's been quite a while since Koei Tecmo shipped a game without revelaing every playable character beforehand people doubt if they are DLC, coming with a free patch later or something else.

Secret characters
  • Owain
  • Oboro
  • Navarre (this one we knew it from earlier due to a NoE slip up)
  • Niles

And Villains, which are confirmed to not be playable, but if we know koei tecmo for something they'lll come soon or later

Villains
  • Validar
  • Gharnef
  • Iago

Yes, the villains stink, even when compared to the rest of the roster
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on September 28, 2017, 01:39:45 pm
Anna's gameplay trailer dropped today. I like it, but again....why so much fates stuff? She's a core part of the whole franchise, surely we could have put in more than just recent stuff?

In no way is this a deal breaker though. Still super excited for it ^_^
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on October 18, 2017, 06:38:29 pm
Anna's gameplay trailer dropped today. I like it, but again....why so much fates stuff

Because Fates was a bloody financial success. And them making Anna ressemble the Anna in Fates (which , let's not forget, was a DLC character, maybe even payed DLC char) is just playin' it safe and  following the path set by the previous games, which turned FE into one of Nintendos Main IP's. 
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But yeah, I would have also prefered if they had chosen to make for nods to other games where she appears. For example:

- Make her team up with Jake for both the Ballistician Tank and the huge Ballista. Jake does appear in Shadow Dragon after all. And he's remotely useful in FE11. More than half of the useless units you get throughout the game.
- Give her the option to use a Lewyn Sword to ressemble the Awakening Character or a lance to ressemble the Merchant class. Missed oportunity, there aren't even any ground units with lances in Warriors....


Now , the real reason we should all raise our pitchforks for is that the Whitewings didn't make it into the game. I mean, I understand leaving Est out. BUT CATRIA? AND OUR BELOVED GREEN HAIRED GODDESS PALLA?!?!

Hope for DLC. ZR is justice.


PS: on another note, I'm now playing through FE 4 & 5 , the last two stories in the FE franchise that I haven't completed (I'm not counting Fe 1 to 3 as I played their remakes in fe 11,12 & 15 ) .
Last think I witnessed was  how a ginger edgelord NTRed the BlueHaired MC and killed him for being too OP in Horse Emblem . Me thinks Arvis liked more Fe Awakening and magic being broken. ''Game is balanced. '' - Arvis Dixit


PPS: to be fair, changing thiefs and adventurers to ranged attack units with high Res in Fates was genius.  They became useful and specialized units on the battlefiled, not simple utility (thief), and/or semi-durable staff bots.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on October 18, 2017, 07:21:04 pm
Arvis is broken enough when you fight him, believe me. Not Forseti broken, but yes harder than all of Awakening's bosses put together (though it's also kinda hilarious how the Tirfying is his natural counter).

And honestly, Fates was a success, but when you look at the numbers it actually wasn't that much. In total they barely managed to replicate Awakening's sales despite the whole '2 games' shenanigans. If that was the whole reason they would have made an Awakening Warriors. It's also not a Japanese thing (https://s.inside-games.jp/article/2017/09/20/109838_3.html) (poll of Japanese fans, Fates was 7th; the first 3 are Holy War, Blazing Blade and Path of Radiance respectively).

They also somehow missed Azura too, despite all the Fates catering. Honestly, it just doesn't make sense. Before I was (a bit unjustifiably) angry at the roster, but now I'm more baffled at the entire thing.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on October 18, 2017, 08:29:11 pm
I do like the thought of giving Thief units ranged attacks, it fits better with being sneaky and avoiding damage while still being useful~ That, and the passive debuffs that came with them, are things I hope stick around in later games. Though, maybe bring Stealing back too.

As for Warriors, I’ve heard that, limited roster aside, it’s actually a pretty good game as far as the genre goes. Haven’t looked into it much yet, though.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on October 18, 2017, 09:38:35 pm
The most recently released trailer gave me the most hype for it (the one with Gharnef in). If they'd released that at the start, we might have avoided so much backlash that was given due to ignoring the old games, and for once it feels like a game not a reskin of another game. A review I read said that the script writing is poor because most initial conversations boil down to the same thing, but the gameplay is good. The reviewer also acknowledges that she loved hyrule warriors more because she loved zelda already but was new to fire emblem (why they got her to review it is thus beyond me, surely a fan would be better to speak to fans but ho hum). What the argument essentially boiled down to is that you can forgive its flaws if you like the series, or if you only want to beat up things while being a fire emblem character. Luckily both those apply to me so I'm happy.
Also it was a kotaku article, so again not really a solid reliable opinion, but better than nothing to test the waters with.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on October 20, 2017, 11:08:22 am
Looks like the DLC Chars from the first batch have been announced.

http://nintendoeverything.com/fire-emblem-warriors-dlc-characters-revealed-azura-tharja-more/

https://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?/topic/78713-dlc-characters-announced/


Fates

Azura - For foot fetishists, like Miyazaki

Niles- another archer. Can't hate him as I turned him into death incarnate in my Conquest-Lunatic run

Oboro- Yesh!

Awakening

Owain- Can't Control.... Radiant Approval!

Olivia- A very pleasant surprise

Tharja- (Alice Cooper's Poison and  A Touch of Evil from Judas Priest summarize my thoughts on this)

Shadow Dragon

Navarre - aka the Original SM

Minerva-  wet fantasy of Cherche fighting Minerva DoA 50% complete

Linde- Not Merric. Still, likeable
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on October 20, 2017, 11:33:56 am
Niles and Oboro? Ew. It's like they want me to throw up.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/225/956/b3e.jpg_large)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on October 20, 2017, 06:10:42 pm
Niles and Oboro? Ew. It's like they want me to throw up.

(http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/001/225/956/b3e.jpg_large)

There, fixed it for you:

https://youtu.be/8S_8CX4YD-8?t=11m27s

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 15, 2017, 03:57:40 pm
For those of us still playing Heroes, a big update is coming. And it looks awesome...

https://www.facebook.com/FireEmblemUK/videos/1989159818038548/ (https://www.facebook.com/FireEmblemUK/videos/1989159818038548/)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on November 15, 2017, 06:26:52 pm
TLDR:

Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Heinrike on November 16, 2017, 06:33:20 pm
On the topic of Fire Emblem Heroes, Great Googly Moogly, Alfonse is terrifying as long as you can keep magic users away from him.

Level 32 5-Star stats with Fólkvangr (but no Sacred Seals):

HP 39
Atk 47
Spd 21
Def 26
Res 16

Add in the fact that he gets Atk+5 at the start of the turn if he's at or Below 50% HP from Fólkvangr, and the fact that he gets Death Blow 3 for +6 Atk if he initiates combat...

That's 58 Atk, and he's still got 8 levels to go before he maxes out...

I'm going to have to Pair him up with Gunter for that  +3 Atk Boost Gunter gives out like candy.

At level 40, I have him at (without Seal or Support bonuses)

HP 43
Atk 51
Spd 25
Def 32
Res 22

I've seen him do 128 total damage on a double attack thanks to Gunter's +3. Granted it was a level ~37 Green mage, but whatever.

I've given him Summoner support and a Speed seal, as well as Support with Gunter.


Unrelated, but tfw you summon and get 4 4 stars that you didn't have before, and one of the 5 star focus heroes.

Got Caeda, Chrom, Boey, Jeorge, and Halloween Henry. feels good, yo.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on November 17, 2017, 08:23:59 am
Only 5* I've got recently is Klein. I didn't even know you could summon him at 5* o.O (got like five 4* kleins which have now all been outdone >>)

I'm glad to see they're adding weapon refinery. Finally, Lyndis shall be good again :D

Alphonse is VERY strong at max level. So are Sharena and Anna, but Alphonse is far better, and Sharena doesn't get a crit skill through regular levelling >>

/me is not annoyed at that. Ho boy, no~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on December 18, 2017, 09:20:07 am
Damn you, Nintendo!

All I want from FEH is my Christmas Tharja. Instead I keep getting the rate reset due to getting obsolete 5* units, and units that I didn’t even know was in the summoning pool (e.g. Gray), and certainly not interested in.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

Edit:
Okay, I got her now, no more need to feel like I’m going to ragequit the game over not getting the single unit that I spent almost a year waiting for.
┬─┬ノ( º _ ºノ)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WeAreTheMeta on December 18, 2017, 09:59:13 am
Damn you, Nintendo!

All I want from FEH is my Christmas Tharja. Instead I keep getting the rate reset due to getting obsolete 5* units, and units that I didn’t even know was in the summoning pool (e.g. Gray), and certainly not interested in.

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

┬─┬ ノ( ゜-゜ノ)

Gachas are bad indeed. Silly gachas
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on December 18, 2017, 11:28:03 am
Looked it up, and it appears that my Xmas Tharja is +HP/-Atk.

+Atk/-Spd probably would have been the "ideal" stat distribution, since her native B passive Vengeful Fighter is an improved version of Quick Riposte (+special charge), which is not dependent on Spd.

... But it's probably better than sacrificing either Def or Res, since her neutral level 40 stats on those are a beautifully tanky 34 and 36, so she can make up for the weaker Atk by just shrugging off damage, then nuking whoever attacked her with a charged up Iceberg in return.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on December 18, 2017, 06:44:45 pm
... I consider myself fortunate that I never found fanservice in FE much appealing. Saves a lot of orbs
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 18, 2017, 07:13:04 pm
Quite so. My only desire is Robin because cool robe, and chrom a lil bit actually because he's got that santa alter look going on.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on December 18, 2017, 07:28:11 pm
Am I the only one who finds Robin's face disturbing?
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 18, 2017, 07:31:51 pm
No :D
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on December 19, 2017, 03:42:51 am
Unrelated to Heroes, but, ever since Fire Emblem Mafia 2, I’ve been thinking it’d be cool if the series had a sort of Roleblocker unit, probably opposite of a Dancer. Target one enemy, and they lose the ability to act for one turn... I could imagine it being potentially abuseable, in some fashion, but everything tends to be, including Dancers, so!

Plus that way they could find something for both Ninian and Nils to do if they ever remake FE7! Would need to edit parts of the plot a little, but then they could have really sweet supports, and-

/me passes out from rambling too much.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Jynx on December 19, 2017, 05:25:16 am
/me points to the 'Sleep' Staff.

Well, admittedly there're not many of those, but...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on December 19, 2017, 06:44:02 am
If bosses were much harder to 'roleblock' or immune to it sure; FEs work with very different enemy quality, a boss being better than your units while the rest being slightly worse. If you could spam that freely a boss would never have a turn.

Like Jynx says, the sleep staff is basically it, but they have far more range and so can be even more broken therefore it's super-rare and scarce. A more limited version of it with very short range doesn't sound too bad, as long as wee kep in mind the bosses thing.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on December 19, 2017, 08:42:37 am
Bosses could be able to have some sort of boss-only skill like Dragonskin which negates counter and lethality (as well as halving damage), which protects them from the roleblock effect.
Or like FE:H's own Embla's Ward, which is straight up bs~
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Gamerjunkie on December 19, 2017, 08:44:23 am
Or like FE:H's own Embla's Ward, which is straight up bs~
Especially on these tiny tiny maps...
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on December 31, 2017, 10:42:23 am
Free first summon JACKPOT!

Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/9aFMu3V.jpg)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Meliran on December 31, 2017, 08:12:00 pm
So, I started playing Awakening a few days ago~ Just finished chapter 10. Pegasus Knights are so beautiful~ I'm currently on a mission to get as many second seals as possible to turn everyone possible into Pegasus Knights. I currently have Robin as one (Well, a dark flier), but have only gotten 1 second seal so far. I think I get one as a drop in the next couple chapters, and then I can buy them after chapter 14 and Severa's paralogue?

Still, my army of cute girls riding pegasi will come~

I have Robin married to Chrom, Cordelia to Lon'qu, and Sumia to Frederick. :3
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 01, 2018, 02:50:25 pm
get as many girls through dark flier as you can at some point, the level 15 skill is broken :3

/me can't wait to nerd out over awakening with meg!
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on January 05, 2018, 08:29:59 am
get as many girls through dark flier as you can at some point, the level 15 skill is broken :3

/me can't wait to nerd out over awakening with meg!

Broken is an understatement for how Overpowered the Galeforce skill is.



But you won't see me complaining. ZR wearing Pegasus girls is justice.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on January 25, 2018, 08:48:50 am
Found out Myrrh was coming to Heroes finally, and decided to summon the best dragon loli. Made a new account intending to reroll until I got her, but then she showed up after three summons. Now, to log in, collect orbs, and bide my time until the rest of the dragon lolis are on rateup...

/me laughs Evilsly.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 25, 2018, 06:38:29 pm
New account...I should do that...

...but nox doesn't like the game and won't open it >>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on January 31, 2018, 01:24:26 pm
Fire Emblem Heroes: First Year Anniversary

LOTS OF THINGS ARE HAPPENING, as shown here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRESC-RruVE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRESC-RruVE)

Anniversary Events:
Log In Bonus - same log-in bonuses as for all events, so could be up to about 20 orbs here.
Double EXP and SP event - the usual stat boost shabang, but useful for the SP if you're doing lots of skill inheriting and weapon forging.
Special Maps - daily rotations featuring heroes from all the summoning banners that have occurred throughout the year, on normal and hard difficulty. There'll be 25 maps total, so that's 50 orbs across the days. As well as this, 7 of the grand hero battles will be returning if you missed your chance before now.
1st Anniversary Gift - 50 orbs! Instantly received upon signing in on 1st February, available to receive until 7th March. Just the once, though!
Training Maps - Seems like FE took a leaf out of FGO's book on this one. New maps designed to train specific classes will be coming in the form of bow, magic, melee, ranged and workout maps. These are also all on a daily rotate.
Hero Fest - A new Hero Fest featuring Nephenee, Ike(axe), Lyn(archer) and Sigurd will begin on 1st February. The heroes on this banner will have a 5* appearance rate of 5%, with the usual 5*s appearing at 3%.

New Game Mode:
A 100 floors challenge! Going by the name Tap Battle: Illusory Dungeon. Plays a little like Plants vs Zombies but without the weapon upgrades, and with a little fire emblem thrown in. Equip your 4-man (or woman, or dragon or whatever) team and they will each stand in one of the 4 lanes as waves of enemies approach. Combat fits the FE style as well, so if a unit is an archer, it will have to hit the enemies before a melee would. There are also bosses amongst the waves of enemies, which have to be hit multiple times and will change lanes to attack different heroes. This mode does not take a hero's level into account, so someone who is still level 1 fresh out of summon can be used just as well as a level 40+. It will be available from the 8th February until the 22nd February. This strikes me as a little strange, as it seems like a whole new game mode is only going to be around for a short time. I expect this is sort of like a trial period for them, before it will be properly released later.

Legendary Heroes:
Another new Ike form! And it does look cool. As the first winner of the popularity poll, he now has a legendary skin all his own separate from the four winners before. He can be summoned in a banner which is on NOW~
Following from this, a new form of ballot called A Hero Rises will launch, which lets you choose your favourite already-in-game hero, and the top spot will get a legendary skin available for everyone. Voting will begin on the 1st of February.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Revontulet on January 31, 2018, 08:04:21 pm
Eirika still on rate up? >>
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on January 31, 2018, 09:32:11 pm
Yeah, her new form is still on for 8 more days.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Elvis Strunk on February 03, 2018, 06:01:26 am
Bwahahahahaha~

Elvis realized that, in actuality, both Myrrh AND Fae had rateups going! So I decided to take advantage of the massive amount of Orbs we're being given to reroll until getting both! Elvis is now the proud owner of a 5* Def+ Spd- Myrrh and a 5* +Spd -HP Fae! Yes, I checked. No, I don't know what all that means, but apparently it's good~

Not sure what this 5* Barst is gonna do since he ain't a cute transforming lady but I guess he can hang around. He was a wonderful help in Shadow Dragon's higher difficulty anyway~ Also, I got two 4* Fae, should I hang on to them or send them home? Not sure what extra copies are for here, since I dun think anybody has Noble Phantasms~

Now half my dragon loli team is complete. Also deleted my old account since I was never gonna use it, and binded this one~ If anyone wants to add me, my code is 8993710274
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on February 03, 2018, 08:48:13 am
Congrats on your loli laser chicken! Duplicates have two uses: they can be merged or used for skill inheritance.

If you merge a hero with a duplicate of it and the rarity of the second hero is equal or higher to the unit it is merging into, the original unit gets a full level up! This goes beyond the max level cap too, so you can get level 40+ heroes if you merge them with equal rarities of themselves. Naturally, this means you lose the duplicate~ If the duplicate is lower rarity than the original, it will only add on some SP, which is in such abundance anyway that this isn't a good use most times.

Skill inheritance is where things get funky. You can burn the duplicate unit and merge it with any other hero at all, and that hero can learn up to three of the skills that your duplicate has! This is how people are making crazy builds for different units. Some things to note though, if you want a special skill (for example) that is an upgrade of a special skill, you will need to inherit both the base and the upgraded skill if you want to learn it. Bear in mind you can only inherit three skills from any unit. Also, the unit which receives the skills will need to use SP to learn them, same as any skill they already have.

So your duplicate Fae's could be used for many things! You could level them to level 20 and ascend them with feathers, then merge with your existing fae to make her (eventually) a level 40+2, or you could level them up and get their skills, then give those skills to a different unit altogether which can benefit from them. Or you could just send them home for feathers if that all sounds like too much work :P

As a side note, this page offers some pretty good build suggestions, and they do them for pretty much every hero: https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Fae/Builds (https://feheroes.gamepedia.com/Fae/Builds). I linked the Fae one so you can see the sorts of things you could do with her abilities if you wanted to go technical with things.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on February 03, 2018, 11:28:23 am
While gamepedia is probably the best Heros meta page, I wouldn't worry too much about it. Their builds are super-optimized and thought for high-level arena, and also assume a super high budget of almost everything (be it copies of heroes for skill inheritance, or amount of sacred coins).

It's good to get ideas for your own builds, and see what works, but their builds don't really start appearing or are necessary until rank 19-20 arena.

(Also, I would love to add you Elvis, but it seems my Reinhardt is quite popular in voting gauntlets so I'm at my max in my friend list)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: mikebrand83 on February 03, 2018, 12:27:08 pm
For FEH, I favour https://fireemblem.gamepress.gg/ as my primary reference site, for the simple reason that I find it more far more intuitive (and more flexible) when it comes to comparing stats of different units.

Anyway, for 4* Fae, it should be noted that she is currently the only unit that has Renewal 3 (auto-heals 10 HP every second turn) unlocked at 4*. Any other unit you want to inherit Renewal 3 from, you’d have to first promote them to 5* costing you 20,000 feathers, or be lucky enough to summon them as a 5* unit.

As for what kind of unit you might want to inherit Renewal 3? Well it’s an option you might consider for a healer or a tank, which can be useful in defensive maps, or endurance type events like tempest trials.

P.S.
For Myrrh, keep an eye out for either the passive A skill or sacred seal version of Iote’s Shield. It won’t cancel her weakness to Falchion or Naga, but it will at least remove her weakness to Bows and Excalibur.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Meliran on March 06, 2018, 11:38:33 am
Best girl all grown up~

Mozu
(https://orig00.deviantart.net/e14c/f/2018/065/7/6/mozu_by_meliran-dc53pdk.jpg)

(Yes, I do have a bit of a thing with what lolis would look like as adults. >.>)
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: John Titor on March 08, 2018, 03:51:56 pm
We might just get info on FE Switch , in today's nintendo direct.

So like in every previous ocassion, let us start predicting features:

I predict that in this future title ...

-there will be no child units without a timeskip or lore implication
-S or A+ rank will be reserved for the ending
-Canto won't make a comeback
-The world will be a new one, independent from that of the previous games, but connected via outrealms
-Will allow you to build a base My Castle style
-Will be fully voice acted
-Smaller cast than Fates , GotHW , SD and Radiant Dawn, but larger than Gaiden
-Avatar unit will be set up like Kris, but it's role will be that of Robin in the Plegia arc
-Eventually, Marx will do an in depth character analysis on reddit from one of the secondary characters, and I'm betting on it that it will be from one of the most overlooked or misinterpreted chars in the game.
And it will be good read
-Arts instead of RNG based proc skills
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Duke Rockhopper on March 08, 2018, 03:54:45 pm
That's a high hope, especially when they might wait until E3 for it. But I'm still hoping too :D

I'll add to your list that:

-Everyone will be already married, and instead you have to un-support everyone and prevent kids from being born
-Because kids are the bad guys
-This game is literally a sadistic satirical outlook on older generations' view of youths.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: Marx-93 on March 08, 2018, 04:34:33 pm
I don't know if to hope or to simply let my emotions get colder so I don't get disappointed if nothing comes in the end, but I'll for sure watch the direct.

On the game, I feel... surprisingly open. I guess I wouldn't mind if they really decide to go for something completely new? Though Titor's list looks pretty good. (Also, Duke's would make for a fun spinoff)

And now I feel the pressure!... I guess that happens because I use the same handle everywhere. It's weird, but it makes me happy in a way.
Title: Re: Fire Emblem
Post by: WhydidIbuytheunionfrigate on March 08, 2018, 05:05:35 pm
I'd like to make a few joke remarks about some of the things you said, but a couple actually took me by surprise.
-S or A+ rank will be reserved for the ending
-Canto won't make a comeback
-Smaller cast than Fates , GotHW , SD and Radiant Dawn, but larger than Gaiden
-Arts instead of RNG based proc skills

Final support ranks reserved for ending? What makes you say that? I'm not particularly immersed in the support mechanics but I thought the whole point of support was to ship your own OTPs, see character growth, and of course, stat boosts. If they were to change the final support ranks to the end, how much would that affect the game?

Canto... Love/Hate relationship. I like it but I have a friend who HATES canto (because of Genealogy). We both agree though that canto heavily affects game balance in certain games because of the heavy emphasis on mounted units in said games. Unless we get an idea of the scaling of the maps, I can't say whether or not they would like to add canto as a unique/class skill or scrap the mechanic entirely.

Cast. Yeah I agree. Playing some of the older games really can be annoying when you have 20+ units and discover that half of them are garbage (BINDING BLADE). The biggest issue is the lack of interesting characters whenever the game tosses you 3-4 variations of the same unit class. I will admit though that out of all the games I have played, certain ones like PoR/RD had large, but half decent and interesting characters... for the most part. If they plan on everyone playing with 0 deaths then I hope they put more effort in the character department.

Arts... I'm not quite sure what you mean by that. Are you referring to the skill system in Fates and Awakening or something more like Genealogy? I mean, I see the appeal of more consistent, predictable skills like in Fates (and appreciated it myself), but RNG based skills also added there own mix of fun... Regardless, I will assume that whatever they choose they'll probably make it fresh by adding some other mechanic (Cause BIORHYTHM was a great idea) like the Pair Up/Team Up mechanic in Fates.

My only concern is how they might try to balance the game so it appeals to all types of fans. Of course you can have the various difficulty settings like b